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by the late owner of this list Nancy Olsen. This is what it said about Dave B.: Gratitude in Action -- Dave Bancroft Montreal, Quebec, Canada. (p. 193, 4th edition.)
in 1944." Dave's date of sobriety was April 7, 1944. He was born on June 25, 1908, in Toronto, Canada, and spent his youth in Knowlton, Quebec. He married Dorothy Ford on September 1, 1929. They had three children and thirteen grandchildren. In Montreal, just before World War II, a young physician interested in alcoholism, Dr. Travis Dancey, had tried to get Dave to read the Big Book while he was incarcerated in a mental institution. Dave, angry and rebellious, literally threw the Big Book at his would-be benefactor. Dr. Dancey was taken into the military service and when he returned in late 1944 and saw Dave, the latter was newly sober in A.A. Dr. Dancey recalled that when he returned, Dave not only dragged him around to A.A. meetings, "but he had the effrontery to explain the spiritual principles of the program to me!" Dr. Dancey went on to become the first
Class A. (nonalcoholic) trustee from Canada, serving from 1965-1974. Dave was a tireless twelfth-stepper, who founded the first A.A. group in the Province of Quebec. He served as a Class B (alcoholic) Trustee from 1962 to 1964.
From: Ron Sessions . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/13/2006 7:12:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII The Glass Crutch is an interesting novel. It provides a great insight into Peabody's approach. Very telling is the explanation given to William when he first starts working with Peabody. Peabody describes the alcoholic illness like this: "After all, alcoholism is nothing more than a disease of emotional immaturity. We all develop along three lines: physically, mentally and emotionally." Peabody stressed the idea of intellectual self and emotional self. The alcoholics job (under Peabody's treatment plan) was to overcome the emotional-self's' control with the intellectual self. ZOIKS!?!?!?
"...for we have not only been mentally and physically ill, we have been spiritually sick. When the spiritual malady is overcome, we straighten out mentally and physically." Emphasis on lack of ability to overcome our own thinking/emotions and absolute
need to have a spiritual experience. I'll take the AA way any day (because reliance upon God works) any day. It's an interesting read though for those who might be interested. Ron __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3488. . . . . . . . . . . . Long form of the Traditions and the 12 and 12 From: Tom Hickcox . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/13/2006 3:51:00 PM
>were added to the 12 and 12, and any reason why they were >omitted from early editions, like my June 1973 twelfth >printing? __________________________________ I have a 15th printing and it does _NOT_ have the long form Traditions. I was able to look at a 16th printing today and it does have the Traditions in the long form. The 15th printing was published in 1977 and the 16th in 1978 Tommy H in Baton Rouge [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3489. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Bill Wilson Telling His Story From: Jim B . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/13/2006 2:37:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Paul wrote Someone asked me if there is a DVD or VHS of Bill W telling his story out of the BB.
their
stories. I believe it was produced around 1960. Jim
++++Message 3490. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Bill Wilson Telling His Story From: Chuck Parkhurst . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/14/2006 1:59:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Paul At one time, World Services offered a video tape entitled "Bill's own story." I am not sure if it is still available. I have a copy that has 4/98 on the label. It is 60 minutes long and is Bill telling his own story from the grounds and in the kitchen of Stepping Stones, side by side with Lois. It is great!! In Service With Gratitude, Chuck Parkhurst ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 2:43 PM Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Bill Wilson Telling His Story Someone asked me if there is a DVD or VHS of Bill W telling his story out of the BB. I don't know that's why I am asking AAHistoryLovers for your help with this.
stayed sober? From: Jim B . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/13/2006 2:40:00 PM
do you have any information on how many out of the five thousand people whom Dr. Bob sponsored stayed sober?
Jim
++++Message 3492. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Long form of the Traditions and the 12 and 12 From: ArtSheehan . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/13/2006 9:38:00 PM
form of the Traditions was added to the 12and12 in its 16th printing. Cheers Arthur
From: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Hickcox Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:51 PM To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AAHistoryLovers] Long form of the Traditions and the 12 and 12
At 12:11 5/28/2006 , sobie396@aol.com wrote: >Does anyone know when the long form of the Traditions >were added to the 12 and 12, and any reason why they were >omitted from early editions, like my June 1973 twelfth >printing? __________________________________
Traditions. Tommy H __________________________________ From: "Jim S." Date: Thu Jun 1, 2006 8:12 am My copy of the 12 and 12, printed in 1967, does not include the "long form."
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From: Glenn Chesnut . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/16/2006 10:38:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Glenn C., the moderator of the AAHistoryLovers, will be out of town from June 17 to July 5, 2006: I'm going to be staying at various campgrounds where I won't have access to the internet, so please hold off on emailing me until I'm back in South Bend. _________________________________________ As part of the trip, I will be speaking briefly at the One-Day History and Archives Gathering on June 24, 2006, in Lebanon, Pennsylvania, see Message 3351: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AAHistoryLovers/message/3351 Barefoot Bill L. will be on one of the panels at the conference in Lebanon, Mitchell K. will speak on "Experiencing AA History: Doing the Steps with Clarence S.," and oldtimer Chet H., Hummelstown, Pennsylvania (sober April 4, 1949) will speak and/or do a question and answer session.
_________________________________________ Fiona D. (Ballina, County Mayo, Ireland), who has helped moderate and take care of the AAHistoryLovers since it was started in March 2002, and to whom we all owe a great debt of thanks, will be watching out for the group for the next two and half weeks.
stayed sober? From: ny-aa@att.net . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/16/2006 12:42:00 AM
people whom Dr. Bob sponsored stayed sober?" Dr Bob did not "sponsor" five thousand people. That is how many he helped to detox. Big Book (page 171) says, "To 1950, the year of his death, he carried the A.A. message to more than 5,000 alcoholic men and women, and to all these he gave his medical services without thought of charge." [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3495. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Richard R. Peabody From: Jim B . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/15/2006 4:27:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Ron wrote It provides a great insight into Peabody's approach. People who practiced the Peabody approach were described as "being like industrial engineers as they carried a time sheet with the day laid out with things to be accomplished." Jim
++++Message 3496. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Dave B., "Gratitude in Action" From: dhart1@tampabay.rr.com . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/15/2006 4:53:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII For the story of Dave B., "Gratitude in Action," in Nancy Olson's Biographies of the Authors of the Big Book Stories:
http://silkworth.net/aabiography/storyauthors.html Doug ___________________________________ Original Message from: Tom Hickcox Henry, you wrote: "I would be grateful if anyone can give me any information on Dave B., the writer of 'Gratitude in Action' in the fourth edition of the Big Book." ___________________________________ Hi Henry, There used to be a web site that had the authors of the stories in the back of the Big Book and a brief bio, but I tried to access it just now and get an error message .... Its url was Download 13.83 Mb. Share with your friends:
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