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SUP. YAROSLAVSKY: BUT YOU SURE DIDN'T WANT TO CONTEST IT A FEW WEEKS AGO WHEN I DID. [ LAUGHTER ]
SUP. YAROSLAVSKY: BUT WE DON'T NEED TO GET INTO THAT.
RICHARD WEISS: WELL, MR. HOFFMAN, HOWEVER, IS INDICATING THAT, TO THE EXTENT THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN AWARE OF USE OF WELLS ON A SHARED BASIS, IT HAS REQUIRED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. TO THE EXTENT THAT PEOPLE WERE IMPLEMENTING SHARED WELLS AND KEEPING THAT FROM THE COUNTY, THEN THE FACT THAT THOSE PRECEDENTS EXIST WOULD NOT GIVE AN ARGUMENT TO ANYBODY IN THE FUTURE, IN MY MIND, THAT THEY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO ALSO BOOTLEG IN A SHARED WELL.
SUP. YAROSLAVSKY: WELL, IF THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN TWO SHARED WELLS THAT HAVE COME TO THE ATTENTION THAT HAVE HAD CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND WHY THIS ISSUE HAS RISEN TO THIS LEVEL OF A CODE AMENDMENT OVER TWO WELLS. SO SOMETHING'S GOING ON. THERE'S MORE TO THIS THAN MEETS THE EYE AND EITHER THERE ARE A LOT MORE AND FINALLY SOMEBODY HAS PICKED UP ON IT, SO THE CODE'S GOING TO BE CHANGED OR-- I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT MY PROBLEM IS AND I-- WITH THIS, I AGREE WITH DEVELOPERS, WHEN THEY SIT ON THE OTHER SIDE AND THEY SEE WHAT APPEARS TO BE SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT OR SELECTIVE ADHERENCE TO THE CODE, THAT, IN ONE PART OF THE COUNTY, IT'S DONE ONE WAY AND THEN, WHEN I INSIST THAT THE CODE BE ADHERED TO, THEN THE ARGUMENT IS THROWN BACK IN MY FACE AND IN THE BOARD'S FACE WHILE, IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY, THIS ISN'T DONE THAT WAY AND YOU'RE TREATING ME DIFFERENTLY. AND IF THAT'S-- THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS PARTICULAR ACTION THAT'S BEFORE US, AS FAR AS MY PERSONAL VIEW IS CONCERNED, ON THE ITEM BEFORE US BUT IT DOESN'T-- THIS WASN'T EVEN AN ISSUE IN MY MIND UNTIL MR. WAGNER PIPED UP AND THAT DID GET MY ATTENTION. AND I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM AND I THINK THAT EVERY MEMBER OF THIS BOARD NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF THIS PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE, THAT THE RULES ARE NOT-- FORGET THE RULES. THE LAW IS NOT ALWAYS UNIVERSALLY APPLIED IN THE SAME WAY, EVEN THOUGH THE LAW REQUIRES THAT IT BE DONE THAT WAY. AND, WHEN WE DON'T DO IT, WE'RE LEFT VULNERABLE OR AT LEAST WE'RE TOLD WE'RE LEFT VULNERABLE TO THESE KINDS-- TO THESE KINDS OF ALLEGATIONS. SO I-- I DON'T KNOW WHAT-- WHAT TO SAY BUT IF YOU'VE ONLY BEEN AWARE, AND I'M LISTENING CAREFULLY TO WHAT YOU SAID, THAT YOU'VE ONLY BEEN AWARE OF TWO, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE ARE ONLY TWO THAT WOULD HAVE QUALIFIED FOR C.U.P., IT JUST MEANS YOU'RE ONLY BEEN AWARE OF TWO AND MY BET IS THAT THERE ARE FAR MORE THAN TWO THAT WOULD HAVE QUALIFIED OR WE WOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE, THIS ORDINANCE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN BROUGHT IN. MR. ANTONOVICH'S DISTRICT HAS A MUCH-- I THINK IS A MUCH MORE-- HAS A BIGGER WATER ISSUE THAN THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS DOES AND I'M NOT-- I'M NOT EVEN NECESSARILY AVERSE TO WHAT HE'S PROPOSING HERE, PROVIDING THERE'S AN APPEAL, WHICH YOU SAY THERE IS. BUT, IF THE LAW, UP UNTIL NOW, HAS SAID THAT YOU REQUIRE A C.U.P., THEN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADHERED TO. AND IF YOU'RE DEPENDING ON SOMEBODY TO COME TO YOU, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, IN A COUNTY THIS BIG, SOMEBODY WANTS TO BOOTLEG A SHARED WELL CAN DO IT AND YOU MAY NEVER FIND OUT ABOUT IT. BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE MORE AGGRESSIVE PURSUIT OF THIS KIND OF INFORMATION IN A MORE AGGRESSIVE ENFORCEMENT OF THE RULES AND-- ANYWAY. WILL YOU GET THAT APPEALS MEMO TO US, JUST-- I WANT TO HAVE IT-- BE ASSURED THAT THERE IS AN APPEAL FROM THE DIRECTOR'S DETERMINATION AND THAT THAT DETERMINATION WILL BE ALSO THE-- THE DETERMINATION OF THE DIRECTOR WILL BE-- THAT THE PEOPLE WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF THE PROPERTY AND THE OTHERS THAT YOU MENTIONED, THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, TOWN COUNCILS AND ALL, WILL BE NOTIFIED, NOT ONLY OF THE HEARING-- NOT ONLY OF THE PENDING REQUEST FOR A SHARED WELL BUT ALSO OF THE DIRECTOR'S DETERMINATION. I ASSUME THAT'S INCLUDED IN HERE AS WELL, IS THAT CORRECT?
SPEAKER: THAT'S CORRECT.
SUP. YAROSLAVSKY: SO IF I LIVE NEXT DOOR, I'M GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THE DIRECTOR'S DETERMINATION AS WELL AS WHAT PRECEDED IT?
SPEAKER: THAT'S CORRECT. IN THAT LETTER OF A NOTICE THAT WOULD TELL YOU WHAT THE DIRECTOR'S DECISION WAS, ALSO WOULD TELL YOU WHAT YOUR APPEAL RIGHTS WOULD BE SO THAT YOU WOULD KNOW HOW TO APPEAL.
SUP. YAROSLAVSKY: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
RICHARD WAGNER: SUPERVISOR, I THINK A LOT OF THIS CAME TO OUR ATTENTION WHEN WE STARTED ASKING FOR PROOF OF WATER AVAILABILITY, WHICH WAS ONLY RECENTLY AND YOU HAD THAT MOTION THAT IT BE APPLIED EQUALLY ACROSS THE COUNTY. AND, IN SOME OF THE MEETINGS WE'VE HAD WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC, PEOPLE HAVE COME FORWARD AND SAID, "WE'RE SHARING A WELL" AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE NOT AWARE OF BEFORE. ALSO, THE SCOPE BECAME WIDER WHEN DEVELOPERS HEARD THAT THIS WAS, IN FACT, A COUNTY REQUIREMENT AND THEY HAD PLANS FOR, IN THE FUTURE, TO DIVIDE LAND AND USE SHARED WELLS AS A SOURCE OF WATER. AND THEY BROUGHT THIS UP.
SUP. YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU.
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: ALL RIGHT. SO IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO MR. ANTONOVICH'S MOTION? ALL RIGHT. MOVED BY SUPERVISOR ANTONOVICH, SECONDED BY...
SUP. YAROSLAVSKY: WELL, WITH THE ONE PROVISO THAT COUNTY COUNSEL WILL PROVIDE US ALL WITH A MEMO ON THE APPEALS PROCESS. THAT'S JUST A SIDE ISSUE.
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: THAT'S FINE. ALL RIGHT. THEN THAT ITEM IS MOVED BY SUPERVISOR ANTONOVICH, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR BURKE. IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, SO ORDERED ON THAT ITEM. NOW WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 8.
CLERK VARONA-LUKENS: HEARING ON PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO TITLE 32, FIRE CODE, TO ESTABLISH NEW FEES FOR THE PURPOSE OF RECOVERING COSTS INCURRED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE NO WRITTEN PROTESTS, MADAM CHAIR.
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A REPORT ON THIS ITEM?
SPEAKER: NO.
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: NO, THERE IS NO REPORT? ALL RIGHT. THE ITEM IS BEFORE US. MOVED BY SUPERVISOR YAROSLAVSKY, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR BURKE. IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, SO ORDERED ON ITEM NUMBER 8. ITEM NUMBER 9.
CLERK VARONA-LUKENS: COMBINED HEARING ON GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, ZONE CHANGE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND VARIANCE CASE NUMBER 031392, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CASE NUMBER 041142, AN AMENDMENT TO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT NUMBER 870602 AND ON THE CERTIFICATION OF THE FINAL SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT WITHIN THE PACIFIC CONCOURSE BUSINESS PARK, LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF LA CIENEGA AT PACIFIC CONCOURSE DRIVE IN THE COMMUNITY OF DEL AIRE, DEL AIRE ZONED DISTRICT PETITIONED BY TRAMMELL CROW RESIDENTIAL. ALSO, MADAM CHAIR, ON MARCH 22ND, THE BOARD CLOSED THE HEARING WITH RESPECT TO THE RECEIPT OF COMMENTS ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTATION AND WE HAVE RECEIVED WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE FOR THE PRIOR MEETINGS ON THIS ITEM.
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: ALL RIGHT. LET'S BEGIN WITH THE REPORT.
SPEAKER: MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, GOOD MORNING. AT THE MARCH 22ND, 2005 PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS MATTER, THE BOARD MADE A MOTION FOR STAFF TO RESPOND TO VARIOUS ISSUES RELATED TO THIS PROJECT. THIS INCLUDED A CONSTRUCTION MITIGATION PLAN ADDRESSING ISSUES RAISED BY THE DEL AIRE RESIDENTS, A REPORT ON WHEN THE 28 ADDITIONAL METERED PARKING SPACES FOR LA CIENEGA WILL BE INSTALLED, A REPORT ON ADDITIONAL EFFORTS BY THE APPLICANT TO RESOLVE ISSUES WITH NEIGHBORS, RETURN WITH FURTHER DOCUMENTATION FROM COUNTY COUNSEL, C.A.O. AND PUBLIC WORKS REGARDING EASEMENTS AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CHANGES; FOR COUNTY COUNSEL, THE REPORT BACK ON THE CENTURY BOULEVARD CONSENT DECREE AND THE PROCEDURE FOR CONVERTING APARTMENTS TO CONDOMINIUMS. THE DEPARTMENT OF REGIONAL PLANNING HAS COORDINATED WITH COUNTY COUNSEL, PUBLIC WORKS, AND THE C.A.O. IN PREPARING MATERIAL THAT ADDRESSES THESE ISSUES. THE INFORMATION WAS SUBMITTED TO YOU IN A MEMORANDUM DATED APRIL 20TH, 2005, AND COUNTY STAFF IS HERE THIS MORNING TO RESPOND TO ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
SUP. BURKE: WHAT WAS THE DATE ON THAT?
SPEAKER: I BELIEVE IT WAS APRIL 20TH, 2005, ON THAT MEMORANDUM.
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: ALL RIGHT. DOES THAT CONCLUDE THE REPORT?
SPEAKER: YES, IT DOES.
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: THANK YOU. WE HAVE MANY PEOPLE WHO WISH TO ADDRESS US. WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO LIMIT IT TO TWO MINUTES AND I GUESS, DO WE WANT TO START WITH THOSE IN FAVOR OR THE OPPOSITION?
SUP. BURKE: MADAM CHAIR, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER AND THEN HEAR FROM THE OPPOSITION, AND THEN, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF IT...
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: ALL RIGHT. WE WILL HEAR-- I MEAN, THIS IS WHO I HAVE. CINDY STARETTE, WOULD YOU PLEASE JOIN US. LEE HARRINGTON. MICHAEL GENTHE. THOSE ARE THE THREE.
RICHARD WEISS: MADAM CHAIR, WHILE THEY'RE COMING UP, THE CLERK INDICATED THAT, LAST TIME, YOUR BOARD DID CLOSE THE HEARING WITH RESPECT TO RECEIPT OF EVIDENCE REGARDING THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT, SO THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT COULD BE FINALIZED. SO IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE TO RECEIVE FURTHER EVIDENCE REGARDING THE ADEQUACY OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: DID YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? SO WE WILL RECEIVE NO INFORMATION ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL, CORRECT?
SPEAKER: YES, SUPERVISOR.
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: ALL RIGHT.
SUP. BURKE: AND, AT SOME POINT, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT REMAINED OPEN WAS THE RESPONSE FROM THE COUNTY COUNSEL ON THE ISSUE OF A CONSENT DECREE.
RICHARD WEISS: SUPERVISOR BURKE, THE APRIL 20TH, 2005 REPORT PROVIDED TO ALL YOUR OFFICES HAS A SECTION THAT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES THAT. TO SUMMARIZE VERY QUICKLY, WE REVIEWED THE CONSENT DECREE AND SPOKE WITH THE GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE AGENCY THAT IS DIRECTED TO IMPLEMENT THE CONSENT DECREE AT THIS POINT AND WE HAVE CONCLUDED THAT THERE IS NO IMPEDIMENT TO YOUR BOARD APPROVING THIS PROJECT. IF YOU DESIRE TO DO SO, THE CONSENT DECREE DOES NOT PROHIBIT THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE PARCEL THAT'S SOUGHT FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: PLEASE PROCEED.
CINDY STARETTE: GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR AND SUPERVISORS, I'M CINDY STARETTE FROM LATHAM AND WATKINS ON BEHALF OF TRAMMELL CROW RESIDENTIAL. I'M JOINED HERE THIS MORNING BY LEE HARRINGTON OF THE LOS ANGELES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, THEY ARE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, AND BY MICHAEL GENTHE OF TRAMMELL CROW RESIDENTIAL. THE THREE OF US ARE GOING TO DO A COMBINED PRESENTATION AND WE WILL KEEP IT AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU.
SPEAKER: I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS ONE KEY ISSUE HERE THAT I THINK HAS BEEN RAISED OR MAY BE RAISED AGAIN BY SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE NEED FOR HOUSING IN THE SOUTH BAY AREA. AND I THINK THE BEST WAY TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE IS SIMPLY TO RECITE WHAT THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SOUTH BAY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS HAS CONCLUDED IN TERMS OF THE JOBS/HOUSING BALANCE. THEY FOUND THAT, IN THE YEAR 2000, THE SOUTH BAY, WHICH IS A JOBS-RICH AREA, LACKED 119,000 UNITS NECESSARY FOR AN APPROPRIATE JOBS/HOUSING BALANCE. THEY ALSO LOOKED AT THE FUTURE OF THE REGION AND FOUND THAT, BY THE YEAR 2025, THAT THAT LACK OF HOUSING WOULD EXCEED 190,000 UNITS. IN OTHER WORDS, JOBS WOULD CONTINUE TO BE ADDED BUT HOUSING WOULD ACTUALLY BE REDUCED OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME. SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE IN A CONTAINED DEVELOPMENT AND TO PUT THE HOUSING WHERE THE JOBS ARE. I ALSO DID CONFIRM, BY GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER, AND OUR ORIGINAL BOARD MEMBER, WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT WHEN IT WAS FIRST PUT TOGETHER AND WE FOUND THERE WAS NO AGREEMENT THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW HOUSING ON THE SITE. IN FACT, THE C.C.N.R.'S ACTUALLY CONTEMPLATE THAT HOUSING WOULD BE A PROSPECTIVE USE.
MICHAEL GENTHE: GOOD MORNING, BOARD. I'M MICHAEL GENTHE WITH TRAMMELL CROW AND I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY BENEFITS PACKAGE THAT WE'VE DEVISED AFTER MEETING WITH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT INTERESTS, BOTH IN THE COUNTY AND THE ADJACENT CITIES.
SUP. BURKE: LET ME ASK YOU THIS. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THAT RESIDENTS HAD. HAVE YOU MET WITH THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA, IN THE DEL AIRE AREA AND DEL AIRE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION AND OTHER PROPERTY OWNER GROUPS THERE?
LEE HARRINGTON: SUPERVISOR BURKE, YES, WE HAVE, ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS AND ACTUALLY MET-- AND ACTUALLY REACHED AN AGREEMENT WITH THE NEWLY FORMED DEL AIRE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. IN THAT AGREEMENT, WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNITY BENEFITS PACKAGE, WHICH INCLUDES A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMITTEE TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC, PARKING, NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY AND BEAUTIFICATION ISSUES. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S A 50,000-DOLLAR FUND-- FUNDING THAT'S GOING TO THE DEL AIRE PARK, WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY PARK FOR THAT AREA. THERE'S ALSO 66,500 DOLLARS GOING TO THE LOCAL JUAN DIANZA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DAYCARE PROGRAM AND IT'S FOR NEW PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S $75,000 THAT'S GOING TO THE WEISSBURN SCHOOL EDUCATIONAL FUND. THIS IS TO SUPPORT THE ARTS CULTURAL PROGRAMS WITHIN THE WEISSBURN SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND THEN, LASTLY, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL $30,000 GOING TO THE TRUST FUND FOR THE WEISSBURN LIBRARY TO SUPPORT KIDS' PROGRAMS. IN TOTAL, THE COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM THAT WE'VE DEVISED IS OVER A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. WE ALSO, IN RESPECT TO THE CITY OF HAWTHORNE, WHICH HAS ALSO RAISED CONCERNS, WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS AND HAVE ADDRESSED THEIR CONCERNS WITH A DIRECT COMMUNITY BENEFITS PACKAGE THAT WILL SUPPORT THE PARK RECREATION SENIOR AND KIDS' DAY CAMP FACILITIES.
CINDY STARETTE: AND SUPERVISOR, I'D LIKE TO SUMMARIZE A COUPLE OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AT THE SEVEN PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HELD BY THE COUNTY ON THIS MATTER IN ADDITION TO THE SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT. TWO OF THOSE ISSUES HAVE TO DO WITH MITIGATION MEASURES FOR NOISE BECAUSE, AS SHOWN ON THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH HERE, THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED NEXT TO THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE. IT'S LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE 405 AND THE 105 FREEWAYS ON THE LOT THAT YOU SEE THERE THAT'S VACANT. IT IS OUTSIDE THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN FOR L.A.X. AND IT'S OUTSIDE THE PROPOSED CONTOURS FOR THE NEW MASTER PLAN. HOWEVER, WE DO WANT TO MAKE A COMMITMENT TO MEETING THE NOISE STANDARD OF 45 D.B.A. AND I'D LIKE TO JUST SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE THINGS IN RECORD BECAUSE THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE AS WELL AND HAD US DO SOME EXTRA WORK IN THIS REGARD. THE PROJECT E.I.R. REFLECTS OVER 13 HOURS OF ON-SITE NOISE MONITORING. THAT ANALYSIS WAS REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND THEY HAVE A LETTER IN THE RECORD AS WELL. THEY DID THEIR OWN ON-SITE NOISE MONITORING. IN ADDITION, WE ALSO CONSULTED WITH THE LOS ANGELES WORLD AIRPORTS AND THEY'VE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH WE ARE INCORPORATING. AND WE'VE RETAINED AN ACOUSTICAL CONSULTANT AND HE HAS MADE RECOMMENDATIONS NOT ONLY ON DOUBLE PANED WINDOWS, WHICH HAD BEEN REQUIRED BY THE COUNTY FOR THE PROJECT, IN ADDITION, THERE ARE THREE OTHER ELEMENTS WHERE WE'VE INCORPORATED DESIGN FEATURES TO REDUCE NOISE. THOSE INCLUDE THE DESIGN OF THE WALLS, THE DESIGN OF THE ROOF, AND EVEN THE DESIGN OF THE DOORS, THE WEATHER STRIPPING ON THE DOORS, SO THAT WE ARE CONFIDENT THESE DESIGN FEATURES WILL MEET THE STANDARD OF 45 D.B.A. THE SECOND ISSUE I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IS THE DENSITY OF THE PROJECT AND WHY IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR ITS LOCATION AND WHY THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION CAME TO THAT CONCLUSION. THIS IS A SITE THAT THE COUNTY DESIGNATED OVER 10 YEARS AGO FOR HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT. IN FACT, THIS SITE IS COVERED BY A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR A 20-STORY BUILDING, 700,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THAT IS GOING TO BE REPLACED BY THIS PROJECT, A 430-UNIT PROJECT, A LITTLE MORE THAN HALF OF THE COMMERCIAL SITE. THE COUNTY'S HOUSING NEEDS, AS MR. HARRINGTON ADDRESSED, INCLUDE OVER 10,000 UNITS FOR ABOVE-MODERATE INCOME HOUSING. THIS IS A SMALL CONTRIBUTION TO THAT BUT IT'S STILL SIGNIFICANT IN VIEW OF THE JOBS THAT IT'S NEAR. IT'S AN URBAN INFILL SITE, IT'S A SITE ADJACENT TO FREEWAYS AND, COMPARED TO OTHER PROJECTS, BOTH IN THE COUNTY AND IN DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES, VERY HIGH QUALITY RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, THE DENSITY OF THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS 88 UNITS PER ACRE, IS ABOUT HALF THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, OF THE WATER TERRACE PROJECT IN MARINA DEL REY. THAT'S 163 UNITS TO THE ACRE. IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN, FOR EXAMPLE, THE METACHI AND ARCINI PROJECTS THAT ARE BOTH OVER 100 UNITS TO THE ACRE.
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: DO YOU WANT TO SUMMARIZE, MS. STARETTE, PLEASE?
CINDY STARETTE: THANK YOU.
SUP. BURKE: I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU'RE BUILDING TO 45 DECIBELS?
CINDY STARETTE: OUR DESIGN FEATURE SHOULD MEET THAT STANDARD, SUPERVISOR.
SUP. BURKE: BUT THE LATEST REPORT INDICATES IT'S 100 YARDS AWAY FROM 65 DECIBELS.
CINDY STARETTE: THE NOISE CONTOUR, BEFORE MITIGATION, IS 65 OR EVEN 55 DECIBELS BUT, WITH THESE DESIGN FEATURES, THE CONSULTANTS AND THE AIRPORT AND THE COUNTY LAND USE COMMISSION, ALL THE EXPERTS WE'VE CONSULTED, SAY THAT WE CAN MEET THAT STANDARD, THE 45.
SUP. BURKE: SO THAT, WITHIN, IT WOULD BE DOWN AT THE 45?
CINDY STARETTE: YES, SUPERVISOR, ONCE ALL THESE FEATURES ARE PROVIDED.
SUP. BURKE: WAS THAT BASED UPON THE 65 DECIBELS IN THE AREA OR WAS IT BASED UPON THE FACT THAT THERE WAS 55 DECIBELS THAT YOU WERE WORKING WITH?
CINDY STARETTE: IT WAS BASED ON BOTH THE 65 IN THE AREA, THEN MEASUREMENTS ON SITE, WHICH SHOWED EVEN UP TO 67 ON THE SITE AND THEN THOSE ARE ALL FACTORED DOWN WHEN YOU INCLUDE THOSE MITIGATION MEASURES.
SUP. BURKE: OKAY. LET'S HEAR FROM THE-- HAVE YOU FINISHED?
SPEAKER: YES.
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SUP. BURKE: I THINK WE SHOULD HEAR FROM THE OPPONENTS BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO ASK-- TO GET YOU BACK BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO ASK ABOUT LA CIENEGA.
SPEAKER: WE HAD ONE PROPONENT AS WELL.
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: ALL RIGHT. THEY CAN COME. LET'S HEAR FROM THE OPPOSITION. FIRST WE HAVE JOHN KOPPELMAN, FOLLOWED BY ARDIS DAHL. IF THEY COULD JOIN US. I APOLOGIZE. ARE THEY HERE? PLEASE COME UP. MARGARET TYRRELL. GUY HOCKER. PLEASE JOIN US. THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT HERE?
SPEAKER: YES.
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: OKAY.
SUP. BURKE: WE'RE CALLING UP THOSE WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION.
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: I UNDERSTAND BUT IF YOU'D COME UP WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, WE'D APPRECIATE IT. ARE YOU JOHN? PLEASE PROCEED.
JOHN KOPPELMAN: MY NAME IS JOHN KOPPELMAN AND I'M PRESIDENT OF THE DEL AIRE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 46 HOUSEHOLDS THAT WE REPRESENT AND WE'RE GROWING RIGHT NOW. I'M HERE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH TRAMMELL CROW, AS THEY HAVE EXPLAINED BEFORE, THAT PROVIDES NOT ONLY MONETARY BENEFITS TO OUR COMMUNITY BUT THERE ARE BENEFITS THAT ARE-- THEY HAVE-- THEY HAVE RESOURCES THAT THEY HAVE PROMISED TO AVAIL US IN ADDRESSING OTHER ISSUES CONCERNING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE STAND BY THAT AGREEMENT, THE DEL AIRE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STANDS BY THAT AGREEMENT WITH TRAMMELL CROW. WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE COUNTY SUPERVISORS IN THE FUTURE ON FUTURE ISSUES ARISING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU.
SUP. BURKE: THANK YOU. STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
MARGARET TYRRELL: COULD I RELINQUISH MY TIME TO FERNANDO ZELEDON?
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: AND YOUR NAME IS?
MARGARET TYRRELL: MARGARET TYRRELL.
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: OKAY. WHO DO YOU WANT IT TO? FERNANDO?
MARGARET TYRRELL: FERNANDO ZELEDON.
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: OKAY. BEFORE YOU START, COULD WE ALSO HAVE JANE FRIEDKIN JOIN US? AND JOREEN AHARONIAN JOIN US AND AHARON AHARONIAN JOIN US. PLEASE PROCEED, MISS DAHL.
ARDIS DAHL: OKAY. MY NAME IS ARDIS DAHL. I LIVE AT 5248 WEST 119TH PLACE IN DEL AIRE. MR. KOPPELMAN DOES NOT REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN THE AREA. I WILL GO ON RECORD STATING THAT. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HE REFERS TO WAS CREATED MIDWAY THROUGH THIS AND HE DOES NOT REPRESENT US. BY THE WAY, I'M ALSO SPEAKING FOR NANCY BOYER, FAWN CANULLI AND JERRY CASILLAS.
SUP. BURKE: HAVE THEY SIGNED UP?
VOICE: YES.
SUP. BURKE: ALL RIGHT. ARE YOU GETTING THEIR NAMES?
ARDIS DAHL: I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT...
SUP. BURKE: SHE'S SPEAKING FOR SOME OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL WHO HAD SIGNED UP. IF YOU COULD TAKE THEIR NAMES OUT?
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: WHAT, NOBODY ELSE IS COMING?
SUP. BURKE: WELL, NO. SHE...
ARDIS DAHL: OH, YES, THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE.
SUP. BURKE: WOULD YOU SAY THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE...
ARDIS DAHL: NANCY BOYER, FAWN CANULLI AND JERRY CASILLAS.
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: GUESS WHAT? THEY DIDN'T SIGN UP. JERRY CASILLAS, NANCY BOYER. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MR. SLAUSON?
SUP. BURKE: ALL RIGHT. YOU'LL TAKE THOSE OUT, THEN.
ARDIS DAHL: OKAY. FIRST OF ALL, MR. HOCKER HAS THE NEWSPAPER BUT I HAVE PART OF IT. THIS WAS IN THE "DAILY BREEZE" ON THE 21ST OF APRIL. "THE CITY OF TORRANCE TOSSED A CONDO PLAN" AND THAT WAS FOR MANY LESS UNITS BUT THE MEETING WAS IN THE EVENING. YOU SEE, WE CAN'T BE HERE IN THE DAYTIME, ALL OF US. THOSE HOUSES ARE-- PEOPLE ARE PAYING OVER $500,000 FOR THESE HOUSES IN OUR AREA. THEY HAVE TO WORK TO MAKE THOSE PAYMENTS, SO THEY CANNOT BE HERE BUT THEY HAD A SELLOUT CROWD AT THE TORRANCE MEETING AND THEY VOTED DOWN THOSE CONDOMINIUM UNITS. "THE CITY OF EL SEGUNDO CHAMBER COMPLAINTS ABOUT HOUSING FOR THEIR WORKERS." WELL, GUESS WHAT? AS I POINTED OUT IN A LETTER TO MS. BURKE, THAT THEY HAVE A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN HOUSING BUT THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO PUT RETAIL ON A HUGE AREA, 425,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL SPACE THEY'RE PLANNING. THEY COULD PUT MIXED USE IN THERE. THAT'S AT SEPULVEDA AND ROSENCRANTZ. NOW, THEY MENTIONED THAT ABOUT-- THERE WOULD BE-- THE PEOPLE AT THEY COULD HAVE A 20-STORY OFFICE BUILDING THERE. PEOPLE DON'T LIVE IN THEIR OFFICES. THEY COME TO WORK AND THEY GO HOME. THAT WOULD NOT BE AS MUCH OF A DETRIMENT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS THESE APARTMENTS WILL BE. THE DENSITY IS OVER THE TOP. NOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC. I NOTICED THIS MORNING HOW MUCH TRAFFIC THERE IS ON 120TH STREET AND, WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WORK, 120TH STREET IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE JUST SWAMPED WITH TRAFFIC OVER THERE. AND IF-- ALSO, THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE TRAFFIC IF THIS AIRPORT PLAN "D" GOES THROUGH BECAUSE THEY'RE PLANNING A TRANSPORTATION CENTER AT AVIATION AND IMPERIAL. IMAGINE THE TRAFFIC YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THERE. AND, ALSO, WHEN TRAMMELL CROW SENDS OUT THEIR LITTLE NOTICES, THIS IS A COPY, THEY WANT COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE BUT WHAT DO THEY ASK? YES, I SUPPORT ALEXIS PACIFIC CONCOURSE. YES, PLEASE LIST MY NAME AS A SUPPORTER. YES, I WILL SPEAK UP. PLEASE CONTACT ME. YES, PLEASE KEEP ME INFORMED OF YOUR PROGRESS. NOWHERE CAN YOU SEND IN AND SAY, "I THINK THIS IS A STUPID IDEA." [ APPLAUSE ]
ARDIS DAHL: I THINK IF ANYBODY DID, THEY'D THROW IT AWAY, THEY WOULDN'T COUNT IT. AND, ALSO, I THINK A BETTER USE FOR THAT PROPERTY THERE RIGHT NOW, IN SPITE OF PUTTING SOME PARKING SPACES ON LA CIENEGA, THE TORRANCE COURTHOUSE HAS A HUGE BLACKTOP PARKING LOT. TAKE THOSE FIVE ACRES AND PUT BLACKTOP ON IT AND MAKE A PARKING LOT FOR THE COURTHOUSE. [ APPLAUSE ]
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: ALL RIGHT. MR. HOCKER?
GUY HOCKER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIRMAN. I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF DENISE AND DONNA SOLIS. I THINK YOU HAVE THEIR...
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: NOW, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING? YOU GUYS ARE TAKING UP OTHER PEOPLE'S TIME, IS THAT WHAT'S GOING ON?
GUY HOCKER: YES.
SUP. MOLINA, CHAIR: LET ME FIND THEM. FOR WHO?
GUY HOCKER: DENISE AND DONNA SOLIS. DENISE AND DONNA SOLIS, S-O-L-I-S. ALONG WITH MYSELF AND I, TOO, BROUGHT THIS ARTICLE ALONG JUST...

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