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i emailed the bumfuzzles about a year ago, wishing them luck and giving them some of my famous non-solicited sailing advise. since that time, we have become wonderful friends and correspond very frequently. i love pat and ali and await the day that we can meet in person. they are a very sweet, funny couple and their energy and enthusiasm inspires me. we will never agree on some things..(they find sailing boring, and really just enjoy travelling), and i detest fast food, haha!, but we do agree on the pompousity of many 'cruisers' and the absolute audacity of their nosiness and judgemental behaviour. those of you who haven't had the opportunity to befriend these cool kids, as i have, are missing out on a truly fantastic chance of friendship. i certainly treasure ours.

Voted "Who Cares". David O-J and Sunspot Baby sum up my thoughts exactly.

The idea that the Bummfuzzle topic was banned is incorrect.

If it turns into a brawl we can close it down as we would any thread that goes in that direction. The poll that really counts was very unanimous among the staff.

It wasn't locked because of the topic but the mess that it created. Any thread that gets out of hand will be locked. We will generally lock a thread before we delete it unless it is spam. Spam goes on sight by any staff member that sees it. It does not last very long here.

I'd like to have it opened. I used to admin a message board, and it's worth remembering that sometimes new people show up, who weren't a part of old drama, and might want to comment.

As far as starting a new thread is concerned, if they do, they'll just get told to shut up and get linked to the old thread, with someone saying "we already talked about that."

Beyond that, why should I have to start a new thread that is directly related to comments and ideas from an existing one? Simply from an information architecture point of view that's a pretty inefficient system.

I actually FOUND this site through some other controversy on some other site about Bumfuzzle...it was referenced and so here I am....something to thank them for....:)

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Originally Posted by Rangiroo I actually FOUND this site through some other controversy on some other site about Bumfuzzle...it was referenced and so here I am....something to thank them for....:)

The birds have gathered on the pond and the fisherman are come'n over to see what for.

Locking a thread can have it's advantages. It hasn't been censored or deleted , just locked. 441 posts is enough! That's more of a blog then a forum thread. http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/69004-post441.html

Yours Aye!

I guess there might be advantages to locking certain types of threads, but the Bumfuzzle thread doesn't seem to need it, to me. If you see such an advantage, please put forth your logic.

But please don't blame flaming. It has been pointed out by one of the moderators that private emails to flamers almost always gets them to stop. In fact, I think it's actually a good thing to allow a bit of flaming now and then. It lets us all see who the knuckleheads are so we can ignore their posts in the future. It's not hard to see the name of the poster over there on the left and just jump right by the whole message.

So what if the thread is 441 posts? So what if it grows to 4410 posts? The amount of space these threads take up in server space or transmission bandwidth is negligible. It's just text.

Locking a thread just starts another thread and that makes it harder to follow the train of thought.

If you don't like long threads, don't read them. Read every other post. Read just the ones written by women or one-armed pirates. Whatever you like.

If you only like short threads, just read short threads. If I want to read every bit of a long thread, what possible problem is that to anyone else? If I want to add a comment to a very long thread, what possible problem is that to anyone else?

Finally, I'd like to echo Rangiroo's comment: I found Cruiser's Forum by stumbling on to the Bumfuzzle site. I'm glad I found Cruiser's Forum. I'm a firm believer in variety spicing up life. I've gotten a few tips from some of the other sailors here like Alan Wheeler in other threads, and I learned a few things about human nature and life on a sailboat from Bumfuzzle chronicles and other cruiser's pages. It's all good in one way or another.

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Originally Posted by BilgeRat Lets move on to bigger and better things . . .

BilgeRat,

Go for it! Start up another thread of something interesting to you. Maybe it will draw a crowd and we'll all gain from it.

Charlie Magee

Maybe some people on the forum enjoyed that thread. It's simple, if you don't like the thread don't click on it and stay out of it, don't censor it. But who am I to say, that is just my opinion. But the powers that be, that is thier decision, not mine. So so be it.

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Originally Posted by charliemagee BilgeRat, Go for it! Start up another thread of something interesting to you. Maybe it will draw a crowd and we'll all gain from it. Charlie Magee

Something of importance to Cruiser's.

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...html#post76532

As we are planning to become live aboard sailors in the future, I have been reading books on how couples make the extra income to continue to do what they have dreamed about. We started with Bob Bitchens mag, and was soon taken over by that call to sea:) Or I should say hubby was. I soon followed and we rush to the mailbox for all our sailing books! But I have been following several solo men and women, and was watching the style that each has used to not only increase their own kitty, but to advance personal causes that they cared deeply about. It's really our choice to give or not to give to the adventures of others out there. There has been so many different stories and each reflects the character of the sailor and I quess we all tend to be supportive of those most like ourselves. I appreciated the give and take on the posts. And hope that this is a good sign that there isn't an issue that is taboo or will be censored. I have alot of questions. And I hope this is a great place to kick back, ask the foolish questions, share the stories as I begin my sailing classes and take some good natured ribbing. Happy to be on board.

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Originally Posted by rebel heart I'd like to have it opened. I used to admin a message board, and it's worth remembering that sometimes new people show up, who weren't a part of old drama, and might want to comment. As far as starting a new thread is concerned, if they do, they'll just get told to shut up and get linked to the old thread, with someone saying "we already talked about that." Beyond that, why should I have to start a new thread that is directly related to comments and ideas from an existing one? Simply from an information architecture point of view that's a pretty inefficient system.

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I have alot of questions. And I hope this is a great place to kick back, ask the foolish questions, share the stories as I begin my sailing classes and take some good natured ribbing.

Should you find you have no more questions then the reason to go off Crusing will be gone. I hope you never run out of questions. Foolish or otherwise life is mostly about questions and less about answers. Sailing is more about showing up than anything else.

Sailing class stories are always a favorite here!

My hubby is an excellent sailor. He has sailed with Roger Olson and John Kreishmer (?) He loves the more unruly seas. Loves the challenge of it all. And there is alway a story to be told. I appreciate the words of wisdom about enjoying the moment. We realize that how we measure time on land, isn't how one does it on the sea. And it's just a matter of casting off and not looking back. At least not for a while. I don't want to have expectations of how I think it should be, I want to just get ur Done...:) learn the important things on how to stay alive, how to feed the captain and how to avoid those moments when you get yelled at in front of the whole harbor for something "he" forgot to do...:) Thanks for the welcome and will check back in to continue to read posts. It takes a very long time to cover all the different sources of information you have here! Thanks! OceanView

Is this thread getting bumped up with no posts? it is making me a bit crazy reading the same thing over and over.

My guess is that it bumps to the top every time someone votes.

Ooops. My bad - I voted. Probably because this thread keeps popping up at the top - LOL

Maybe we should start a "Should the "Should the Bumfuzzle Thread Be Locked" be locked thread."

It should be locked. If it isn't, then I am doign something wrong, because I was sure I had locked it once before. I will take a look. Hmmmm, I even seem to remember Pat making some comment on some site, maybe his, that it had been closed and made a big song and dance about it.

Alan:
Dan is suggesting locking this poll, not the already locked bumfuzzle thread.

But hasn't this been done to death before???????

I like to peruse their website from time to time to find out where they are etc etc.

They set out as inexperienced and probably naive, but they have achieved teir objective, sailed around the world, and that is more than many on this forum will ever acheive.

I want nothing more than to do what they did. Stupid adventurer is my middle name.

well it is Wade. Thats my Dads name. God bless him!

Well, the bums made it around the globe. Way to go!

i too add my congratulations to them and i hope they continue to write in the same amusing style about their next adventures as it passes the time for me while i am building, also come on alan unlock the thread what harm can it do, the people have voted

And I say, keep it locked.

That's my vote!!

Yeah. Keep it locked. Why would we want to discuss successful circumnavigators on a cruising forum?

I haven't been in this forum for around 6 months, maybe a little bit less and yet the topic of the "bumfuzzles" or whatever seems to have eternal life. I would say from an editorial point of view and keeping a site active, kind of like keeping readers of a newspaper that the topic should be allowed to roll along for the next decade or two. Obviously it fulfills some dark need by some as it continues to not die.

I did read something about this couple because of the flack in these forums, however what struck me, like the many forums I belong to, was an over reaction to a non-event, blown out of proportion. This happens all the time in the photography and model railroading forums I frequent. These kind of threads I see as the "spice" of a forum and make them more interesting as long as they don't get too heated; however, why folks would get themselves in a slather over another couples sailing around the world is a mystery to me. Seems there are so many evils and negatives in the world, the "bum who evers" must surely be down there with the "dog pooh in the parks" debate.

I wonder if the new owners are planning on maintaining a web site and doing a circumnavigation:

Then for cryin out loud, DISCUSS THE BUMFUZZLES!! No ones stoping anyone discussing the Bumfuzzles.

Quite a listing on YachtWorld.