Descendants of Charles & Anne Payne



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Descendants of Charles & Anne Payne

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Rhonda Brownlow and Monica Jones



brownlowr@dodo.com.au

CHARLES2 PAYNE (JAMES1) was born 26 Dec 1819 in Orpington, Kent, England, and died 25 Aug 1894 in Kendall Street, Cowra NSW. He married ANNE ELIZABETH FITZGERALD 06 May 1839 in St James Church, Sydney rg 97/23. She was born Abt. 1813 in Limerick, Ireland, and died 26 Jan 1854 at Towrang NSW.


CHARLES PAYNE:

Charles had been working at Cowra Newspaper for Charles Boxell, before he died from the effects of Influenza. Burial: 26 Aug 1894, Cowra Anglican Cemetery


Children of CHARLES PAYNE and ANNE FITZGERALD are:

2. i. CHARLES JAMES PAYNE, b. 04 Jan 1841, At William Edge's, Newtown Rd, Darlington. Baptised 20 June 1841 at St. Lawrence Sydney; he died. 22 Jun 1919, 25 Junction Street, Forest Lodge, Glebe NSW.

3. ii. ELIZABETH 'LOUISA' PAYNE, b. 05 Aug 1843, Parramatta Rd, Parish of Petersham NSW; Baptised 3 Nov 1843 she d. 24 Apr 1923, Cowra NSW.

iii. EMILY PAYNE, b. 20 Jun 1846, Brisbane Grove, Goulburn NSW; d. 21 Apr 1849, Goulburn NSW.

4. iv. MARY ANN MARIA PAYNE, b. 19 Dec 1848, Goulburn NSW; Baptised 11 Feb 1849 d. 19 Oct 1923, Laggan NSW.

5. v. MATILDA SOPHIA PAYNE, b. 23 Sep 1850, Goulburn NSW Baptism 27 Oct 1850; d. 26 Oct 1921, Narrandera.

vi. EMMA PAYNE, b. 1857, Carcoar Rg 5987; d. 1857, Carcoar Rg 2567.

Generation No. 2
2. CHARLES JAMES3 PAYNE (CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 04 Jan 1841 in At W. Edge's, Newtown Rd, baptised St. Lawrence Sydney, and died 22 Jun 1919 in 25 Junction Street, Forest Lodge, Glebe NSW. He married SUSANNAH MARIA COOPER 02 Jul 1864 in Residence of Mrs. Stanning, Tuena, Rg Carcoar 1844, daughter of JOHN COOPER and MARY GRIFFITH. She was born 08 Jan 1851 in Goulburn, NSW, and died 29 Jun 1919 in Wentworth Street, Blackheath, NSW.
SMH

24 June 1919


PAYNE- The Friends of Mrs. MARIA PAYNE, Mr. and Mrs. & Mrs. PAYNE, Mr. & Mrs. SCOBLE, Mr. & Mrs. MURPHY, Nurse HOLLIS, Mr. & Mrs. COATES, Mrs. ETTIE REMINGTON, Mr. & Mrs. WILSON, MRS. GRACE COTTER, and Mr. & Mrs. HUNTER are kindly invited to attend the FUNERAL of her beloved HUSBAND and their FATHER, Charles James; to move from his son’s residence, 25 Junction Street, Forest Lodge, THIS (Tuesday) MORNING, ,at 9 o’clock for the Church of England Cemetery, Rookwood. Via Newtown Station

CHARLES JAMES PAYNE:

Burial: 24 Jun 1919, Rookwood Anglican Cemetery

Cause of Death: Cardiac Failure, Cardiac Asthma

Occupation: Gold Miner
SUSANNAH MARIA COOPER:

Burial: 01 Jun 1919, Blackheath Anglican Cemetery

Cause of Death: Hypostatic Pneumonia, Congestion

Children of CHARLES PAYNE and SUSANNAH COOPER are:

6. i. ELIZABETH LOUISA4 PAYNE, b. 15 Mar 1866, Tuena NSW; d. 1942, Lismore NSW.

7. ii. SARAH 'ALICE' PAYNE, b. 1868, Tuena, NSW; d. 04 Jun 1942, Lumea Private Hospital, Piper St, Leichhardt.

8. iii. LAURA PAYNE, b. 1871, Tuena, NSW; d. 04 Apr 1911, Cobar, NSW.

9. iv. CHARLES HENRY PAYNE, b. 02 Jun 1873, Tuena NSW; d. 29 Mar 1921, Leadville, Wyaldra Shire rg 05638.

10. v. CAROLINE JANE PAYNE, b. 1876, Tuena NSW; d. 15 Oct 1952, Dover Heights, NSW.

11. vi. MARY ADELAIDE PAYNE, b. 1878, Tuena NSW; d. 12 Nov 1945, Home of Peace, Marrickville NSW.

12. vii. HENRIETTA 'ETTIE' PAYNE, b. 1881, Tuena NSW; d. 11 May 1967, Leichhardt NSW rg 21225.

13. viii. 'ETHEL' MATILDA PAYNE, b. 1884, Tuena NSW; d. 07 May 1965, Castle Hill rg 18854.

14. ix. GRACE MAUD ROHAN PAYNE, b. 1887; d. 17 Jun 1970, Ryde NSW.

x. FRANCIS JOHN AMOS PAYNE, b. Aug 1891, Tuena; d. 27 Sep 1891, Tuena, NSW (5 Weeks).


FRANCIS JOHN AMOS PAYNE:

27th September 1891 Tuena

Payne, Francis Amos John, Infant age 5 Weeks

Cause: Bronchitis 4 days

Parents: Charles James PAYNE, Miner & Susannah Maria Cooper

Witness: C. Payne, Father, Tuena

T. Frederick Bell Tuena 30 September 1891

Burial 28 September 1891 Tuena

Witness J A Hollis Mrs. Collins

15. xi. MIRIAM EDITH PAYNE, b. 01 Jan 1895, Tuena NSW; d. 26 Feb 1973, Ashbury, NSW.

xii. HORACE REUBEN PAYNE, b. Aug 1898 Tuena; d. 17 Feb 1900, Seymour Street. Bathurst (1Year 4 Months from gastroenteritis).

Burial: 19 Feb 1900, Moorilda Cemetery, NSW

3. ELIZABETH 'LOUISA'3 PAYNE (CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 05 Aug 1843 in Parramatta Rd, Parish of Petersham NSW, and died 24 Apr 1923 in Cowra NSW. She married ALFRED CRAMP 28 Apr 1862 in Forbes NSW, son of JURY CRAMP and MARY EDMUNDS. He was born 28 Apr 1838 in Bombar, Abercrombie River NSW, and died 28 Aug 1904 in Mulyan, Cowra NSW.

OBITUARY


'' Cowra Free Press''

Friday April 25, 1923


Death of another Old Pioneer

The late Mrs. Elizabeth Louisa Cramp, after a lengthy illness, the death occurred at her residence, ''Mulyan'' on Thursday of Mrs. E. L. Cramp relict of the late Mr. Alfred Cramp, for many years a highly respected resident of Cowra.

The late Mrs. Cramp was a native of Parramatta, was a daughter of the late Charles Payne, and was 79 years at the time of her death. She came to Cowra when only a young woman & had resided here continuously for about half a century. She leaves the following family. Messrs Charles Henry, Jury Joseph, Alfred (Reids Flat), Benjamin, Septimus, & Joseph Phillip (Wellington) and Mesdames James Muir, Frank Bennett (Sydney), D. Byrne (Wagga), and a number of grandchildren. She is buried in Church of England Cemetery, today Friday, April 25.

OBITUARY


'' Cowra Free Press,''

Tuesday May 29, 1923


Mrs. Cramp, born Parramatta in 1844, daughter of the late Charles Payne of Kent, England. Family of six sons, three daughters, all living. For several years Mrs. Cramp spent her childhood days in Parramatta, going from there to Goulburn where her father conducted ''White Horse Hotel'' in Auburn Street for a considerable time.
They later moved to Lambing Flat and Forbes goldfields. Some years later she married Alfred Cramp of Forbes, who followed farming pursuits very successfully in the Crookwell district. Then moved to Cowra and purchased the ''Great Western'', then the '' Royal Hotel'' as proprietor where they carried on for many years and the premises still remains in the family today. The late Mrs. Cramp had a most charitable disposition and scope of her factors was far and wide, particularly during the period when her husband was in business. During that time a beggar was never allowed to go away hungry and many a meal found its way to the homes of the poorer classes of the town.
Crookwell Gazette,

Wednesday 30.5.1923

Personal

There passed away last week, after a protracted illness, at her residence, Mulyan, Cowra, an old and respected pioneer resident, Mrs. Elizabeth Louisa Cramp, relict of the late Alfred Cramp of Cowra. The deceased was a native of Parramatta, and 79 years of age. In early life she came to Cowra where she had resided continuously for upwards of fifty years. Se is survived by the following family: Messrs Charles, Henry, Jury Josiah, Alfred (Reid's Flat), Benjamin, Septimus, and Joseph Phillip (Wellington), and Mesdames James Muir, Frank Bennett (Sydney) and D Byrnes (Wagga). Mrs. Baker senior of Laggan is a sister and there are many grand children. The interment took pace at the CofE portion of the Cowra cemetery, the Rev. Mirrington officiating.

Burial: 25 Apr 1923, Cowra C/E



ALFRED & ELIZABETH LOUISA NEE PAYNE & SON BENJAMIN:
Alfred Cramp was born at Bomber, Abercrombie on April 21 1838, a son of Jury Cramp and his wife Mary Ann Edmunds. Jury Cramp at that time was employed as a farrier for Thomas Hassall, who had a land holding at Mulgowrie. Not a lot is known about Alfred’s early childhood but he was known to get into a few scrapes in his early years before he settled down. He married Elizabeth ‘Louisa’ Payne at Forbes NSW on April 28, 1862. Louisa was the daughter of Charles Payne and Ann Elizabeth Fitzgerald.
Alfred was at the gold fields with his brother George, seeking their fortunes and this maybe where Alfred met Louisa as she was known to be there with her father Charles Payne.
Alfred was at several gold diggings, Tuena 1854, Lambing Flats (now Young), North Lead and Forbes. From these pursuits it is assumed he was successful enough to allow himself to settle down and pursue farming at Binda and to then raise his young family.
This was not to prove as uneventful as we are led to believe. The Goulburn Herald was to report Ben Hall Gang called on Alfred Cramp after the shooting of Constable Nelson at Collector. He was a publican, lived at Cowra & had Great Western & Royal Hotels. Often figured in wrangles over hotel licences & clean premises. Lost a finger in a shooting accident. Was a champion middleweight boxer & people tried to get him to fight overseas but declined.
Goulburn Herald,

July 10 1867


Before the Police Magistrate at Goulburn on Monday the 8th was Alfred Cramp, charged with assaulting Mrs. O’Brien, wife of John O’Brien, at O’Brien’s Public House at Binda. The assault was of somewhat aggravated nature. Cramp was sent to Goulburn Goal for two months.

Goulburn Goal Entry


Goal Standing Number 4216, Alfred Cramp, born 1838, height 5’8’’, fresh complexion, dark brown hair, hazel eyes, prominent chin, long nose, mouth medium, mole under right shoulder blade. Could read and write.
Alfred Cramp

Goulburn Herald

Tuesday, September 30, 1884
Police Court

Police v Alfred Cramp, for using unrecorded brand for sheep. Defendant stated that some three years ago he made an application to the inspector for the use of such brand, and had remitted the fees; since which time he had heard no more about it, and thought the brand was registered. The case was adjourned to the next court (20 October, 1884) to admit of defendant producing evidence.

Goulburn Herald

Thursday, October 30, 1884

Police Court
Alfred Cramp was sued by the police for using an unregistered sheep brand. This case had been postponed from last court upon the representation of Cramp that he made an application and remitted fee to the sheep inspector at Carcoar, and he now produced a certificate under the brand of J.W West, sheep inspector, Carcoar, showing that the brand had been allotted. Case dismissed.
Cowra Free Press

Saturday, October 26, 1895


Police Court
Remanded accordingly, Alfred Cramp, licensee of the Royal Hotel appeared upon summons, charged with allowing billiards to be played on his premises an hour after the hour of 11 P.M. on the 17th instant.

Defendant pleaded guilty;

Constable Tranter deposed that he observed the billiard room attached to the defendants hotel, open at 12 midnight on Tuesday, 17th instant ; he questioned the person in charge, but did not caution the defendant personally, there were people playing in the room at the time.

Sergeant Harvey deposed that this was the first offence the licensee had been charged with.

Defendant said he was in bed at the time.

His Worship said that he had no option but to inflict a fine of ₤2 pounds that being the minimum penalty under the licensing act.

Fined ₤2 pounds, and 4 shillings costs, in default levy and distress.

Cowra Free Press,

Thursday 1st. September 1904

OBITUARY

THE LATE MR ALFRED CRAMP, SENR
A resident of many years in the person of Mr. Alfred Cramp, we much regret to record, died at his residence on Saturday night after a very brief illness, the result of an attack of appendicitis. About four years ago the first symptoms of failing health manifested themselves, and some months later he removed to Sydney NSW, where he underwent a successful operation. About three years ago he returned to Cowra and since then, up to within a week or two of the fatal seizure, he apparently enjoyed excellent health, consequently few were prepared for the sad news that he had breathed his last. Our late townsman was born at Bomber, in the Carcoar district on April 21st, 1838, therefore he was in his 67th year. In his early days he chiefly followed mining pursuits, and in the course of his peregrinations in quest of the precious metal he visited the Lambing Flat (Young) and Forbes goldfields. At the latter place in 1862 he married Miss Louisa Payne, of Goulburn, who survives him, and eventually settled down in the Goulburn district, where he was a successful grazier for a number of years He commenced his career as a hotelkeeper in Cowra at the Great Western Hotel in 1888, and upon that hostelry becoming too small for his very large business connection, he removed to the Royal Hotel, where he conducted a large and lucrative business until the precarious state of his health necessitated his retirement into private life. He leaves a widow and grown-up family of six sons and three daughters to mourn the loss of a most affectionate husband and parent. The remains were interred in the Church of England portion of the cemetery on Sunday, in the presence of a very large number of sympathising friends and mourners. The burial service was read by Mr. A W Marshall, the Rev R Seymour Smith being away from home at the time. We tender the sorrowing family our deepest sympathy. B 1838 Mulgowrie, d 27.8.1904, par Jury Cramp/Mary Ann Edmunds, husband of Elizabeth Louisa Payne, issue Charles 1863, Jeremiah 1864, Alfred 1866, Benjamin 1868, Ada A L (Muir) 1870, Henrietta L (Bennett), 1872, Lydia 1874 (Byrnes), Septimus 1878, Josiah P 1881
He died at Cowra on September 1, 1904, following an attack of appendicitis. Louisa remained in Cowra with her family till her death on April 25, 1923. Both Alfred and Louisa were buried in the Church of England section of the Cowra Cemetery, beside Louisa’s father, Charles Payne
SMH

5 September 1904

CRAMP -August 28, 1904, at his residence, Mulyan, Cowra, Alfred Cramp, aged 65 years

Burial: Cowra

Children of ELIZABETH PAYNE and ALFRED CRAMP are:

16. i. CHARLES HENRY4 CRAMP, b. 31 Jan 1863, Binda NSW; d. 15 Oct 1938, Binda NSW.

ii. JURY JOSIAH CRAMP, b. 1864, Crookwell River NSW; d. 04 Aug 1925, 24 Mona Road, Darling Point NSW.
JURY JOSIAH CRAMP:

Burial Rookwood Cemetery - Our dear brother (Inscription on large stone - "Jury"

The Sydney Morning Herald

Wednesday 5 August 1925


CRAMP,- August 4, 1925, at his sister's residence, 24 Mona-road, Darling Point, Jury Josiah Cramp, beloved son of the late Alfred and Louisa Cramp, of Cowra, aged 59 years

Burial: 05 Aug 1925, C of E Rookwood NSW


iii. JOSEPH CRAMP, b. 1864, Crookwell River NSW; d. 04 Aug 1916.

17. iv. ALFRED JOSEPH CRAMP, b. 1866, Crookwell River rg 16841; d. 05 Nov 1951, Cowra NSW (86) rg 31165/1951 Young.

18. v. BENJAMIN CRAMP, b. 1868, Crookwell River rg 9355; d. 01 Dec 1939, Sydney NSW.

19. vi. ADA ANN LAURA CRAMP, b. 1870, Crookwell River rg 19286; d. 1954, 24153/1954 Orange.

20. vii. HENRIETTA LETITIA CRAMP, b. 17 Jun 1872, Crookwell River rg 19882; d. 15 Apr 1956, Five Dock NSW.

viii. LYDIA CRAMP, b. 19 Jun 1874, Crookwell River rg 21764; d. 1944, Wagga Wagga NSW; m. DANIEL BYRNES, 1914, Sydney NSW; b. 1870; d. 1927, Wagga Wagga NSW.

ix. SEPTIMUS CRAMP, b. 28 Apr 1878, Crookwell River rg 10884; d. 16 Jun 1964, Cowra NSW.

Burial: Cowra

21. x. JOSIAH 'JOSEPH' PHILLIP CRAMP, b. 04 Aug 1881, ''The Forest'', Binda rg 13099; d. 01 Feb 1953, 75 Terence Street, Windsor NSW.


MARY ANN MARIA BAKER nee PAYNE


  1. MARY ANN MARIA3 PAYNE (CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 19 Dec 1848 in Goulburn NSW, and died 19 Oct 1923 in Laggan NSW. She married WILLIAM JURY BAKER 17 May 1868 in St. James Church, Binda NSW, son of CHARLES BAKER and MARIA CRAMP. He was born 19 May 1847 in Pudman Creek, Burrowa NSW, and died 05 May 1899 in Sawyers Creek, Laggan NSW.

WILLIAM JURY BAKER:

Goulburn Herald

Wednesday, March 29, 1865
Goulburn Police Court

Before the Police Magistrate


James Martin appeared on remand to answer a charge of cattle stealing.

Hannah Cramp deposed; I live near Tuena, and have cattle of my own. I have some working bullocks branded HC. I know William Jones, I do not know the prisoner. On one occasion I exchanged a white working bullock with William Baker, it had the HC brand on it, I have several times lent Baker bullocks to work. I never authorised him to lend them to anyone else.

The prisoner was remanded till three o'clock, when, Hannah Cramp further deposed; I have seen the three bullocks in the paddock, one is the one I changed with Baker.

Susan McClung deposed; I live at the Lost River, I know the bullock red and white branded HC, I heard Baker say that he had exchanged it with the prisoner, prisoner used to live at my place. I had seen Baker working the bullock on his own farm. The prisoner was discharged.

Goulburn Herald

Saturday, March 18, 1865

Goulburn Quarter Sessions

Thursday, March 16, 1865

Before Police Magistrate and Andrew Gibson, Esq, J.P.
Suspicion of Horse Stealing,-

William Baker was brought up by Senior-Constable O'Brien on suspicion of stealing a brown horse branded IM on near shoulder. The prisoner gave an account of how he became possessed of the horse, and was discharged.


Goulburn Herald

Saturday, May 17, 1865


Harbouring Bushrangers and Receiving Stolen Property

William Jury Baker appeared at the bar on this charge. James Clunes, who had been upon bail on a similar charge, appeared when called, and took his place beside the defendant.



Robert Kennedy, Mounted trooper, deposed that, from information he had received, he apprehended Baker with a pair of knee-boots (produced in court) upon him, and he now charged him with having received the boots knowing them to have been stolen.
Before the case against Baker was proceeded with the police-magistrate said that although he did not think there was evidence to implicate James Clunes, he could not divest his mind of the belief that he must have known something about the boots found in his house; and he cautioned Clunes to be more wary and careful in future as to what he admitted within his premises. Clunes was then discharged.
In answer to a question from the bench as to whether a warrant had been issued for the apprehension of Bartholemew Clunes upon a charge of receiving stolen property, Mr Gannon stated that Bartholemew Clunes would have been present had it been possible for him to have completed the journey; his horse had knocked up on the road, which had delayed him. He would, however, be forthcoming when wanted. Mr. Gannon also requested that the bench would direct a subpoena to issue, and conveyed by the policeman who took the warrant, and served upon Thomas Frost, who was a material witness for the defence. Frost had refused to attend unless served with a subpoena.
The bench consented to this arrangement provided that Frost's residence was in the route which would be taken by the officer who took the warrant. Mr. Gannon said that the policeman would pass close to Frost's door on his route.
The case of William Baker was then proceeded with. Thomas Jones deposed; I am in the employ of the police; I have known the prisoner for five years; before I was in the employ of the police I was in company with the prisoner; we were camped together in the bush near Harris's place, and were going to get work at Lodge's; the prisoner proposed to change boots with me; he had on a pair of knee -boots which he said were troublesome to get off and on. I exchanged with him and gave him a pair of short Wellington for his, he told me that the knee-boots had been made for him by a shoemaker who lived near Gunning; I wore the boots for two or three days at Lodge's; we were in a hut immediately facing Lodge's house which had been used for a schoolroom; When I left Lodge I left those boots in the hut; there was no door to the place; about a month after I saw Baker wearing the same boots; I had no particular conversation with him relative to the boots. I said that they were mine, and asked him for them; he said he had not any others to wear, and gave him a pair I was wearing; I afterwards gave the boots up to Constable Kennedy.
To Mr Gannon; He told me that the boots were made for him by a shoemaker near Gunning.
Constable Hughs deposed to having apprehended the witness Jones, and having kept him in custody for about a month after his apprehension, at which time he was employed by the police; was present when they met Baker with the boots in question on him; in consequence of what he was told by Jones, took Baker into custody; the boots produced in court were the boots alluded to.
Thomas Kimberley deposed; I am a publican and storekeeper: I live at Collector; on the 26th of January last my house was struck up by three men; They were not disguised in any way; I saw them plainly; they robbed me of a good deal of property, amongst which were three pairs of riding boots, and some short wellingtons, I identify the two pairs of boots shown to me as two of three pairs which were stolen by the robbers at the time I mention; I made the boots myself and cannot make any mistake about them.
Mr. Gannon declined to cross - examine the witness and the case for the prosecution closed.
Mr. Gannon then contended that the only evidence which could criminate Baker was that of Jones, which, unsupported as it was in the main features upon which a committal could be supported, could not be believed. He appeared in the questionable attitude of a receiver of stolen property himself; he had admitted that he had been apprehended for a stolen saddle; he had then turned informer, in which character he now appeared; he also trusted that the bench would consider the equivocating manner in which he had given his evidence, and give the defendant the benefit of any doubt on the matter.
The police magistrate said that there appeared to him to be a prima facie case made out against the prisoner; the boots were sworn to by the maker from whom they were taken by the bushrangers; it was distinctly sworn that these boots were first seen after the robbery in the possession of Baker, and he had not accounted for their possession. It was a case in which he would not take upon himself to judge, and he should commit the prisoner to take his trial at the Quarter sessions to be held at Goulburn on the 18th September next.
Mr. Gannon applied that the prisoner might have been charged upon bail for his appearance at the quarter sessions.

The bench admitted the prisoner to bail, and Mr. Richard Waite of Goulburn, and Mr. .Charles Baker of Binda, having given their bail, the prisoner was allowed to go at large.

The young man William Jury Baker has not yet attained his eighteenth year.
Goulburn Herald

Saturday, August 25, 1866


Goulburn Quarter Sessions

Thursday, August 23, 1866


Before Police Magistrate;

James Eldridge, William Eldridge, William Baker, William McDonald, and Benjamin Cramp, were charged with cattle stealing. The three first named prisoners had been remanded from the previous Tuesday, when;-


Senior Sargeant Fenton deposed to the apprehension of the prisoners on a charge of stealing a portion of a beast, the property of Mr. Jeffreys, of Cotta Walla; witness asked if they had come through Cotta Walla, and if they all belonged to the three teams then standing in the street, asked if they had camped at Jeffreys' place; they said yes; asked if they had any fresh beef; they said a little; took them to the lockup. William Eldridge got a bag off one of the drays which contained some beef; he said that he brought it from home; he had some more in the dray which they got from Baker's;
Mr McDonald said that the beef was on his dray; subsequently found some beef on Bakers dray - nearly the whole of another hind quarter; then arrested all five prisoners.

On the present occasion Mr. Gannon appeared for the defence.

Senior Sergeant Fenton deposed to finding a powder flask and pistol, claimed by Cramp, in Baker's dray.

Remanded to the next day.


OBITUARY

''Argyle Liberal

Friday October 26, 1923
Mrs. Baker, relict of the late William Baker, a very old and respected resident of Laggan, died at her residence on the afternoon of Friday last, at the ripe old age of 75 years.

The deceased was a native of Goulburn and the daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. Payne of Tuena. Her husband predeceased her about 20 years ago. The deceased lady had been in failing health for some time past, but it was only a week previous to her death that her illness took a serious turn, and though everything was done for her that medical skill could devise and good nursing accomplish, she succumbed to heart failure on the date mentioned.


She is survived by five sons and three daughters to mourn the loss of a good mother. The sons are Messrs. Alex, Joseph, George, Guilford (Laggan) and Jack (Roslyn). The daughters are Mrs Fogarty (Wagga), Mrs. Thorley (Laggan) and Mrs. C. Thornton (Crookwell NSW). Two sons predeceased her, one (Aubrey) having been killed in the late war.

The funeral which was largely attended, took place on Sunday afternoon, when the remains were interred in the C.E. section of the Crookwell Cemetery, the burial service being conducted by Reverend S. Broadfoot.

The funeral arrangements were carried out by Messrs Kennedy & Thurkettle, local undertakers.
BAKER, Mary Ann

Crookwell NSW Gazette,

Wednesday 24.10.1923

Obituary


There passed away at Laggan on Friday last an old and esteemed resident of the locality in the person of Mrs. Mary Ann Baker. The deceased, who was 75 years of age, possessed a lovable personality and her demise removes an affectionate mother and esteemed citizen. Mrs. Baker had resided in the village of Laggan for a period of twenty-five years, and her gracious and thoughtful neighbourly act, during that period are countless. Her fatal illness had not been of long duration, although for some years she had not enjoyed robust health. The fact of losing a son in the Great War, it is thought, influenced the state of her health more than she permitted to be apparent. Her husband, the late Mr. William Baker, predeceased her some twenty years since. Prior to their removal of Laggan Mr. and Mrs. Baker for a period of 25 years, in which centre they were greatly esteemed. A large family of sons and daughters mourn the loss of a devoted mother. The sons are George, Joseph, Guildford and Alexander, of Laggan, and John (Roslyn) and the daughters Mrs. Fogarty (Wagga), Mrs. Thorley (Laggan) and Mrs. Cecil Thornton (Crookwell). The interment took place in the Church of England portion of the Crookwell Cemetery on Sunday afternoon last and was conducted by the Rev S Broadfoot, of Crookwell NSW. The funeral was largely attended, bearing testimony to the esteem in which the deceased was held.
MARY ANN MARIA PAYNE:

Baptism: 11 Feb 1849, Goulburn her father was a shopkeeper


Goulburn Herald

Wednesday, March 29, 1865


Goulburn Police Court

Before the Police Magistrate


James Martin appeared on remand to answer a charge of cattle stealing.

Hannah Cramp deposed; I live near Tuena, and have cattle of my own. I have some working bullocks branded HC. I know William Jones; I do not know the prisoner. On one occasion I exchanged a white working bullock with William Baker, it had the HC brand on it, I have several times lent Baker bullocks to work. I never authorised him to lend them to anyone else.

The prisoner was remanded till three o'clock, when, Hannah Cramp further deposed; I have seen the three bullocks in the paddock; one is the one I changed with Baker.

Susan McClung deposed; I live at the last River, I know the bullock red and white branded HC, I heard Baker say that he had exchanged it with the prisoner, prisoner used to live at my place. I had seen Baker working the bullock on his own farm. The prisoner was discharged.


Goulburn Herald

Saturday, March 18, 1865


Goulburn Quarter Sessions

Thursday, March 16, 1865

Before Police Magistrate and Andrew Gibson, Esq, J.P.
Suspicion of Horse Stealing,-

William Baker was brought up by Senior-Constable O'Brien on suspicion of stealing a brown horse branded IM on near shoulder. The prisoner gave an account of how he became possessed of the horse, and was discharged.

Goulburn Herald

Saturday, May 17, 1865


Harbouring Bushrangers and Receiving Stolen Property

William Jury Baker appeared at the bar on this charge. James Clunes, who had been upon bail on a similar charge, appeared when called, and took his place beside the defendant.

Robert Kennedy, Mounted trooper, deposed that, from information he had received, he apprehended Baker with a pair of knee-boots (produced in court) upon him, and he now charged him with having received the boots knowing them to have been stolen.
Before the case against Baker was proceeded with the police-magistrate said that although he did not think there was evidence to implicate James Clunes, he could not divest his mind of the belief that he must have known something about the boots found in his house; and he cautioned Clunes to be more wary and careful in future as to what he admitted within his premises. Clunes was then discharged.
In answer to a question from the bench as to whether a warrant had been issued for the apprehension of Bartholemew Clunes upon a charge of receiving stolen property, Mr Gannon stated that Bartholemew Clunes would have been present had it been possible for him to have completed the journey; his horse had knocked up on the road, which had delayed him. He would, however, be forthcoming when wanted. Mr Gannon also requested that the bench would direct a subpoena to issue, and conveyed by the policeman who took the warrant, and served upon Thomas Frost, who was a material witness for the defence. Frost had refused to attend unless served with a subpoena.
The bench consented to this arrangement provided that Frost's residence was in the route which would be taken by the officer who took the warrant. Mr. Gannon said that the policeman would pass close to Frost's door on his route.
The case of William Baker was then proceeded with. Thomas Jones deposed; I am in the employ of the police; I have known the prisoner for five years; before I was in the employ of the police I was in company with the prisoner; we were camped together in the bush near Harris's place, and were going to get work at Lodge's; the prisoner proposed to change boots with me; he had on a pair of knee -boots which he said were troublesome to get off and on. I exchanged with him and gave him a pair of short Wellington for his, he told me that the knee-boots had been made for him by a shoemaker who lived near Gunning; I wore the boots for two or three days at Lodge's; we were in a hut immediately facing Lodge's house which had been used for a schoolroom ; When I left Lodge I left those boots in the hut ; there was no door to the place ; about a month after I saw Baker wearing the same boots; I had no particular conversation with him relative to the boots. I said that they were mine, and asked him for them; he said he had not any others to wear, and gave him a pair I was wearing; I afterwards gave the boots up to Constable Kennedy.

To Mr. Gannon; He told me that the boots were made for him by a shoemaker near Gunning.


Constable Hughs deposed to having apprehended the witness Jones, and having kept him in custody for about a month after his apprehension, at which time he was employed by the police; was present when they met baker with the boots in question on him; in consequence of what he was told by Jones, took Baker into custody; the boots produced in court were the boots alluded to.

Thomas Kimberley deposed; I am a publican and storekeeper ; I live at Collector; on the 26th of January last my house was struck up by three men; They were not disguised in any way ; I saw them plainly; they robbed me of a good deal of property, amongst which were three pairs of riding boots , and some short wellingtons, I identify the two pairs of boots shown to me as two of three pairs which were stolen by the robbers at the time I mention; I made the boots myself and cannot make any mistake about them.


Mr. Gannon declined to cross - examine the witness and the case for the prosecution closed.
Mr. Gannon then contended that the only evidence which could criminate Baker was that of Jones, which, unsupported as it was in the main features upon which a committal could be supported, could not be believed. He appeared in the questionable attitude of a receiver of stolen property himself; he had admitted that he had been apprehended for a stolen saddle; he had then turned informer, in which character he now appeared; he also trusted that the bench would consider the equivocating manner in which he had given his evidence, and give the defendant the benefit of any doubt on the matter.
The police - magistrate said that there appeared to him to be a prima facie case made out against the prisoner; the boots were sworn to by the maker from whom they were taken by the bushrangers; it was distinctly sworn that these boots were first seen after the robbery in the possession of Baker, and he had not accounted for their possession. It was a case in which he would not take upon himself to judge, and he should commit the prisoner to take his trial at the Quarter sessions to be held at Goulburn on the 18th September next.
Mr. Gannon applied that the prisoner might been charged upon bail for his appearance at the quarter sessions.

The bench admitted the prisoner to bail, and Mr Richard Waite of Goulburn, and Mr Charles Baker of Binda, having given their bail, the prisoner was allowed to go at large.

The young man William Jury Baker has not yet attained his eighteenth year.
Goulburn Herald

Saturday, August 25, 1866

Goulburn Quarter Sessions

Thursday, August 23, 1866


Before Police Magistrate;

James Eldridge, William Eldridge, William Baker, William McDonald, and Benjamin Cramp, were charged with cattle stealing. The three first named prisoners had been remanded from the previous Tuesday, when;-


Senior Sargeant Fenton deposed to the apprehension of the prisoners on a charge of stealing a portion of a beast, the property of Mr. Jeffreys, of Cotta Walla; witness asked if they had come through Cotta Walla, and if they all belonged to the three teams then standing in the street, asked if they had camped at Jeffreys' place; they said yes; asked if they had any fresh beef; they said a little; took them to the lockup. William Eldridge got a bag off one of the drays which contained some beef; he said that he brought it from home; he had some more in the dray which they got from Baker's;
Mr. McDonald said that the beef was on his dray; subsequently found some beef on Bakers dray - nearly the whole of another hind quarter; then arrested all five prisoners.
On the present occasion Mr. Gannon appeared for the defence.

Senior Sergeant Fenton deposed to finding a powder flask and pistol, claimed by Cramp, in Baker's dray.

Remanded to the next day.
Goulburn Herald

Friday,


August 24, 1866
Before Police Magistrate and Misters Hovell and Rossi;

James Eldridge, William Eldridge, William Baker, William McDonald and Benjamin Cramp, appeared on remand charged with cattle stealing.


Mr. Gannon for the defence.
John Jeffreys deposed that he is a farmer living at Cotta Walla; knew Baker, but not the other prisoners; on the 11th instant a man whom he thought was Cramp came and asked him to sell him some meat, but witness had none, just before this had seen a cow of his that this man also could have seen; missed on Monday; on Tuesday, in consequence of what was told him, went to look at camp; found where some cattle bones had been recently burnt; about a quarter of a mile off found concealed in a hollow tree the fore quarter of a beast with the hide on, like the colour of the missing cow; close by found some blood where an animal had apparently been slaughtered; the head of the beast was attached to the quarter, and was the head of the missing cow; twenty yards off found the other fore quarter; witness's brand on this quarter; had seen some beef in the possession of the police - two hind quarters of a cow; the cow appeared to have been killed with the blow of an axe. On cross-examination witness said that he did not know that the place had been used as a camp before, but had heard that Baker had once camped there, on looking more closely at prisoners believed that it was James Eldridge, not Cramp, who came to his place.
John Bryant deposed that McDonald came to ask about buying meat; had seen McDonald, Baker, and James Eldridge going towards their drays. The rest of witness's evidence merely confirmed that of Jeffreys.
The prisoners were discharged; the police-magistrate remarking that he felt morally sure that the animal had been killed by one or other of them, but that there was not sufficient legal evidence to justify a committal.
WILLIAM JURY BAKER:

10: 05 May 1892, Declared bankrupt


WILLIAM JURY BAKER:

Burial: Laggan

Cause of Death: CARCINOMA OF STOMACH

Children of MARY PAYNE and WILLIAM BAKER are:

22. i. EDWARD 'ALEXANDER'4 BAKER, b. 11 Apr 1869, Crookwell Grove, Crookwell NSW; d. 01 Oct 1951, Crookwell NSW.

23. ii. CHARLES HENRY ALFRED BAKER, b. 1870, Crookwell River NSW; d. 24 Feb 1894, Taralga NSW.

iii. EMILY FLORENCE BAKER, b. 1872, Crookwell River NSW; d. 03 Mar 1874, Binda NSW.

iv. BERTRAND BAKER, b. 1873, Crookwell NSW; d. Bef. 1923.

24. v. WILLIAM 'JOSIAH' BAKER, b. 22 May 1875, Crookwell River, Binda; d. 12 Jun 1957, The Elms, Laggan NSW.

vi. HEPHZIBAH BAKER, b. 1877, 'Inglewood' Laggan NSW; d. 03 Aug 1956, Wingham NSW; m. (1) JOHN THOMAS FOGARTY, 11 Sep 1902, St. James Church of England, Binda NSW divorced 1933; b. 1881, Burrowa NSW; d. 1970, Cowra NSW; m. (2) TERENCE MCGRATH, 1934, Randwick; d. May 1940, Taree NSW.


SMH Saturday 26 August 1933

FOGARTY v FOGARTY.


Hephzibah Fogarty (formerly Baker) v John Thomas Fogarty. Marriage September, 1902, at Binda, Church of England rites. Issue, desertion. Decree nisi. Mr. Sheppard instructed by Messrs. Garland, Seaborn, and Abbott, Sydney agents for Mr. Marsden Manfred, of Goulburn) for petitioner
vii. GEORGE BAKER, b. 1879, Crookwell NSW.

25. viii. BEATRICE BAKER, b. 1881, Crookwell River NSW; d. 08 May 1967, Wahroonga NSW.

26. ix. ADA BAKER, b. 1884, Crookwell NSW; d. 03 Oct 1968, The Bay Convalescent Home Blakehurst NSW donated body to science.

27. x. JOHN BAKER, b. 13 Dec 1886, Crookwell River, Binda NSW; d. 10 Sep 1963, Rozelle NSW.

xi. AUBREY BAKER, b. 1888, Goulburn NSW; d. 12 Oct 1917, World War 1 France.
BAKER, Private AUBREY

Crookwell NSW

Gazette, Friday 16.11.1917

Our Boys

The Rev R Penty conveyed the sad intelligence to Mrs. Baker, of Laggan, this week that her son Driver Aubery (sic) Baker had been killed in action.
Crookwell NSW

Gazette, Tuesday 1.1.1918


Church of England Crookwell

A memorial service by the Rev C W Clarke, assisted by Mr. E M Dudley, H L R, was held in St Bartholomew's Church, Crookwell NSW, in memory of five men, from this district who have bravely answered the call of supreme sacrifice, who have fallen in battle … of Gunner Aubrey Baker, reference was made to the high position he held in his family life, of his excellent character and devotion to home ties; also to the respect in which he was held in his own district. He enlisted on the 14th October 1916, and was killed in action on July 11th, 1917, at the age of 27 years.

Crookwell NSW

Gazette, Friday 12.7.1918

KILLED IN ACTION

In November last Mrs M Baker, of Laggan, was notified by the Military authorities that her son, Private A Baker, was killed in action on the 12th October. Mrs Baker is now in receipt of a letter from Capt G R Porter, of the 11th Light Trench Mortar Battery, as follows: ' I have to convey to you the deepest sympathy of all members of this unit, and also my appreciation of your son as a soldier under my command.


Through the Red Cross Information Bureau, Gun J E Wilesmuth writes: I did not actually see the casualty, but I saw him soon after. He was caught by a shell, death being instantaneous. Refer to Cpl Riley; he was with him at the time of the casualty, and can give all particulars. I knew Pte A Baker very well; he was the only man of that name in the Battery. I was gassed soon after myself and do not know the place of burial and cannot refer to anyone for detail.
The ground was held and he was sure to be buried somewhere near the place of casualty. Cpl Riley writing through the same source says: I was in charge of a party one night, Pte Baker being one of the members, and was sitting besides me. I attended all the wounded men on the occasion, and am under the impression Pte Baker was killed.
I was wounded myself at the time, and went to hospital before the men were buried. Rev F W Wray, Senior CofE Chaplain of Administrative Headquarters in answer to a letter from Mrs Baker states:
I have written to Chaplain Rev R H Pitt-Owen, who is attached to the Battalion asking him to endeavour to ascertain any particulars he can surround your son's death. I will forward these particulars to you if any are forthcoming. Should it be possible for our official photographer to obtain a photograph of your son's grave, two prints will be sent you.' b 1888, killed in action 12.10.1918, son of William Jury Baker and Mary Ann Payne, siblings Edward 1869, Emily F 1873, Bertrand 1873, Wm Jos 1872 Hepzibah 1877 (Fogarty), George 1879, Beatrice (Budden), Ada 1884 (Seaman), John 1885, Guildford 1890, Charles 1892, Spencer V 1892
28. xii. GUILDFORD BAKER, b. 1890, Crookwell River, Binda NSW; d. 29 Nov 1966, Sydney NSW.

xiii. SPENCER V BAKER, b. 1892, Crookwell NSW; d. 1892, Infancy, Crookwell.

5. MATILDA SOPHIA3 PAYNE (CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 23 Sep 1850 in Goulburn NSW Baptism 27 Oct 1850, and died 26 Oct 1921 in Narrandera. She met JAMES JURY ELDRIDGE 19 Feb 1869 in St Nicholas Church of England, Goulburn, son of WILLIAM ELDRIDGE and JANE CRAMP. He was born 08 Sep 1845 in Cooks Vale Creek, and died 11 Oct 1918 in Narrandera.
Friday 25 October 1921

The death of Mrs. James Jury Eldridge at her residence on Tuesday evening aged 73 years. Deceased had been a resident for 5 years coming from Crookwell NSW. Her husband predeceased 3 years ago. She leaves a family of 12 grown children.


MATILDA SOPHIA PAYNE:

Baptism: 23 Oct 1850, Goulburn her father was a storekeeper

Children of MATILDA PAYNE and JAMES ELDRIDGE are:

29. i. WALTER CHARLES4 ELDRIDGE, b. 19 Feb 1870, 'Yarranoo' Binda NSW; d. 20 Dec 1922, Crookwell District Hospital NSW.

30. ii. FLORENCE TAMAR ELDRIDGE, b. 05 Oct 1871, Boorowa NSW; d. 14 Oct 1962, 4 Adams Street, Narrandera NSW.

31. iii. ARTHUR JAMES ELDRIDGE, b. 15 Sep 1873, Lucky Swamp, Binda NSW; d. 26 Mar 1946, Carcoar NSW.

32. iv. WILLIAM JOSIAH ELDRIDGE, b. 01 Sep 1875, Binda NSW; d. 16 Dec 1961, Young NSW.

33. v. ROYDON CLIFFORD ELDRIDGE, b. 19 Oct 1877, 'Aubry Ville', Binda; d. 14 Oct 1948, 'Glen Lea', Boorowa NSW.

34. vi. JANE MAY ELDRIDGE, b. 26 Jul 1879, 'Albery Ville', Binda NSW; d. 10 Apr 1949, Narrandera NSW.

35. vii. LILAH VICTORIA ELDRIDGE, b. 05 Oct 1881, 'Albery Villa' Binda NSW; d. 1957, Narrandera NSW.

36. viii. CLARENCE OLIVER ELDRIDGE, b. 12 Dec 1883, Laggan district NSW; d. 18 May 1948, Narrandera District Hospital.

37. ix. CHARLES HENRY ELDRIDGE, b. 08 Apr 1886, Sapling Creek, Laggan NSW; d. 14 Jan 1938, Narrandera District Hospital NSW.

38. x. JAMES JURY ELDRIDGE, b. 08 Apr 1886, Sapling Creek, Laggan NSW; d. 28 Nov 1945, Movern Qld.

xi. PERCIVAL EVERARD ELDRIDGE, b. 1889, Sapling Creek, Laggan NSW; d. 17 Nov 1891, Fish River, Binda from scalds (2).

Burial: 18 Nov 1891, Binda

39. xii. JOSIAH RUPERT ELDRIDGE, b. 23 Jan 1892, Crescent Farm, Binda NSW; d. 05 Mar 1970, Narrandera NSW.

40. xiii. VIVIAN JASPER ELDRIDGE, b. 08 Sep 1895, Happy Valley, Binda NSW; d. 14 Aug 1955, Gosford NSW.

Generation No. 3
6. ELIZABETH LOUISA4 PAYNE (CHARLES JAMES3, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 15 Mar 1866 in Tuena NSW, and died 3 Jul 1942 in Lismore NSW, buried on 4 July 1942 Alstonville Cemetery. She married URIAS JOHN SCOBLE 11 Aug 1884 in Tuena NSW, son of JOHN SCOBLE and MARY HUTCHINSON. He was born 1859 in Adelaide SA, and died 22 Jun 1933 in 1 King Street Bondi, NSW.
ELIZABETH LOUISA PAYNE:

Baptism: 30 Sep 1866, Tuena, NSW


URIAS JOHN SCOBLE:

The Melbourne Argus

20.8.1886 page 9
Urias Scoble, a miner, who attempted to rescue George Edgerton, a miner, who had been covered with a fall of earth at the Pine Ridge Gold Mine, Trunkey Creek on June 10th, was awarded a bronze medal
Bankrupt

SCOBLE Urias Leadville Miner13/10/189712241

SMH

23 June 1933



SCOBLE-June 22, 1933. At 1 King-street, Bondi, Urias John, beloved husband of Elizabeth L. Scoble, and father of Charles, Jack, Hilton, Edith, Vie (Mrs. Kelly), aged 74 years.

Burial: Rookwood, NSW

Children of ELIZABETH PAYNE and URIAS SCOBLE are:

41. i. CHARLES FREDERICK5 SCOBLE, b. 1885, Carcoar, NSW; d. 08 Aug 1965, Rose Bay, NSW.

42. ii. URIAS JOHN 'JACK' SCOBLE, b. 1888, Carcoar, NSW; d. 12 Jul 1936, Newtown NSW.

iii. EDITH BLANCHE SCOBLE, b. 1893, Carcoar NSW; d. 05 Jan 1946, Chatswood, NSW.

iv. HILTON CHARLES SCOBLE, b. 1896, Mudgee, NSW; d. living New Farm Qld 1980; m. VALERIE WINIFRED GERTRUDE NOBLE, 1936, Sydney NSW.

43. v. EMILY AGNES VICTORIA 'VIE" SCOBLE, b. 1897, Mudgee, NSW; d. 13 Aug 1982, at Ballina, late of Lismore, formerly of Meerschaum Vale.

vi. MALE SCOBLE, b. 1900, Cassilis, NSW; d. 1900, Gulgong NSW.

7. SARAH 'ALICE'4 PAYNE (CHARLES JAMES3, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 1868 in Tuena, NSW, and died 04 Jun 1942 in Lumea Private Hospital, Piper St, Leichhardt. She married (1) ALBERT STANLEY SERGEANT 28 Dec 1885 in Tuena Presbyterian Church NSW. He was born 01 Nov 1865 in Gympie, QLD, the son of Albert Sergeant and Sarah Jane Gillespie, he died 08 Dec 1904 in Boulder Deep Levels Nine, Boulder WA. She married (2) JOHN JOSEPH MURPHY 07 Jun 1906 in St. Mary's Catholic Church, McLean NSW. He was born 1885 in Palmers Island, McLean , the son of Patrick Murphy & Rose Nolan, he died 04 Dec 1945 in Buried at Field of Mars.


SARAH 'ALICE' PAYNE:

The witnesses to his second marriage were William James Peoples and Mary O'Driscoll.


SMH
MURPHY June 4 1942 at a private hospital, Alice Murphy, late of Unity Hall Hotel, Darling Street, Balmain, beloved wife of John Murphy, and beloved mother of Jessie, Stanley, Victoria, Enid, Minna, Harold, John and Ethel.

Requiem Mass for the repose of the soul of the late Mrs. Alice Murphy will be celebrated in St Augustine's Church, Balmain, THIS (Saturday) MORNING at 9'clock.

Lived at Unity Hotel Balmain.
SARAH PAYNE and ALBERT SERGEANT:

The witnesses to he second marriage were William James Peoples and Mary O'Driscoll.


SARAH 'ALICE' PAYNE:

Died at Lurnea Private Hospital, Piper Street, Leichhardt NSW.

Burial: 06 Jun 1942, Field of Mars Catholic Cemetery

Cause of Death: Broncho Pneumonia, Influenza

Occupation: Hotel Keeper at McLean in 1906
ALBERT STANLEY SERGEANT:

Killed when the ore bucket fell 1000 feet at the mine working, and he only lived for a few hours but died from multiple fractures from the fall.

Burial: 09 Dec 1904, Kalgoolie Cemetery, WA

Occupation: Miner


JOHN JOSEPH MURPHY:

Occupation: Blacksmith

Residence: 1942, Darling & Beattie Streets, Balmain

Children of SARAH PAYNE and ALBERT SERGEANT are:

44. i. JESSIE5 SERGEANT, b. 06 Sep 1886, Tuena, NSW; d. 27 Jan 1977, Mclean, NSW.

ii. MAUD E SERGEANT, b. 18 Jul 1888, Tuena, NSW; d. 09 Sep 1888, Tuena 9 Weeks from measles.


Maud E Sergeant:

9th September 1888 Tuena

Age: 9 weeks

Cause: Measles 4 days

Parents: Albert Serjeant, miner, Alice Payne

Burial: 10th September Tuena Wesleyan Cemetery.


iii. AUGUSTA CATHERINE SERGEANT, b. 01 Aug 1889, Tuena rg 17783; d. 06 Jan 1892, Tuena 2 years 5 month 4 days.
AUGUSTA CATHERINE SERGEANT:

Burial: Tuena Cemetery

Medical Information: 2 years 5 month 4 days
45. iv. ALBERT 'STANLEY' SERGEANT, b. 1892, Mount Stuart, rg Cassilis 10407; d. 03 Jun 1959, McLean NSW.

v. VICTORIA MAY SERGEANT, b. 19 Dec 1894, Tuena rg 33663; d. 1977; m. EDWARD GEORGE MORRIS, 30 Jun 1938, District Registrars Office, Burwood; d. 1966, Mclean, NSW.


VICTORIA MAY SERGEANT:

Baptism: 21 Apr 1895, C of E Church Binda, NSW


vi. ENOCH SERGEANT, b. 15 Sep 1897, Tuena , NSW; d. 15 Sep 1897, Tuena NSW.
Sergeant, Enoch

B 15 SEPTEMBER 1897

Died 1897

Albert Serjeant, miner, Alice Payne PAYNE (M 1886)

Siblings: Eliza 1885, Unnamed 1888, Augusta C 1889-1892, Maud D 1888-1888, Albert S 1892, Victoria 1894, Enid J 1898
vii. ENID JOYCE SERGEANT, b. 1898, Tuena rg 35145; d. 09 Aug 1951, Parramatta, NSW; m. ROY MITCHELL, 04 Aug 1923, Our Lady of Delours Church, Chatswood.
ENID JOYCE SERGEANT:

Burial: Field of Mars Cemetery, NSW


46. viii. MINNA SERGEANT, b. 1902, Cobar rg 2281; d. 05 Nov 1972, Parramatta, NSW.

47. ix. REGINALD CHARLES SERGEANT, b. 1904, St. Peters rg 26690; d. 29 Dec 1975, Lewisham Hospital, late of Concord West.


Children of SARAH PAYNE and JOHN MURPHY are:

x. HAROLD GREGORY5 MURPHY, b. 1907, McLean rg 14890; d. 12 Jun 1977, Buried Field of Mars.

48. xi. JOHN PATRICK MURPHY, b. 1909, McLean rg 38267; d. 19 Sep 1975, late of Dee Why and Parramatta.

49. xii. ETHEL MAY M MURPHY, b. 1913, McLean rg 21105; d. 19 Oct 1983, Parramatta NSW.

8. LAURA4 PAYNE (CHARLES JAMES3, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 1871 in Tuena, NSW, and died 04 Apr 1911 in Cobar, NSW. She married THOMAS FREDERICK ELVINS 25 Jul 1890 in Presbyterian Church, Tuena NSW. He was born 08 Jul 1860 in Bigga, NSW, the son of Thomas Elvins & Mary Ann Hearne, he died 07 Mar 1938 in Granville, NSW.


LAURA PAYNE:

Cause of death: Chronic Nephritis, Mitral Disease

Burial: C of E Cemetery, Cobar
SMH

Tuesday 8 March 1938


ELVINS-The Relatives and friends of Mr. GORDON ELVIN and FAMILY are Invited to attend the Funeral of his dearly loved FATHER and their dear GRANDFATHER, Thomas Frederick to leave .54 Bridge Road Forest Lodge THIS MORNING at 10 o clock for the Crematorium Rookwood
THOMAS FREDERICK ELVINS:

Baptism: 04 Dec 1860, Anglican Faith

Burial: 08 Mar 1938, Rookwood Cremated.

Children of LAURA PAYNE and THOMAS ELVINS are:

50. i. GORDON5 ELVINS, b. 06 Jan 1892, Tuena, NSW; d. 01 Mar 1946, Forest Lodge, NSW.

51. ii. ALIDIA LYDIA MAY ELVINS, b. 1894, Tuena, NSW; d. Sep 1938, Newtown, NSW.

iii. SEPTIMUS THOMAS ELVINS, b. 1896, Tuena, NSW; d. 19 Jul 1961, Newtown, NSW; m. GLADYS ERICKSON, 1940, Helensburgh NSW; d. 28 Jul 1971, Stanmore NSW.

52. iv. CHARLES HENRY ELVINS, b. 1898, Tuena, NSW; d. 08 Jul 1966, Kogarah, NSW.

v. STANLEY HORACE ELVINS, b. 1901, Cassilis, NSW; d. 18 Oct 1958, Coonabarabran, NSW.

Never married

Burial: Dubbo Cemetery
vi. JOHN ELVINS, b. 1902, Cassilis, NSW; d. 1975, Wentworth Falls, NSW.

Never married


vii. ALBERT SIDNEY ELVINS, b. 1905, Cobar, NSW; d. 25 Mar 1957, Hurstville, NSW; m. ADELAIDE VICTORIA WARD, 1927, Chatswood, NSW; b. Aug 1905, Cobar; d. 18 Jun 1977, Newcastle, NSW.
9. CHARLES HENRY4 PAYNE (CHARLES JAMES3, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 02 Jun 1873 in Tuena NSW, and died 29 Mar 1921 in Leadville, Wyaldra Shire rg 05638. He married SOPHIE JANE CAMERON 15 Aug 1900 in St. Luke’s Anglican Church, Gulgong 6266. She was born 06 Aug 1873 in Gulgong NSW, and died 22 Jan 1957 in Haberfield NSW.
CHARLES HENRY PAYNE:

Baptism: 31 Aug 1873, C of E Binda, NSW

The witness at his birth at Tuena was Mrs. Ann Baker.

The witnesses to the marriage were E.L. Scoble and F.E. Haviland.

Occupation: Miner

Residence: 1916, 725 Junction Street, Forest Lodge

Bennett.

Burial: 31 Mar 1921, Rookwood Anglican Cemetery

Cause of Death: Bronchitis, Asthma.
PAYNE- The relatives and Friends of Mrs. Sophia Payne, Lily, Thelma, Laura, Miriam, Charles, are invited to attend the Funeral of her beloved late HUSBAND and their FATHER, Charles Henry; to leave 25 Junction Street, Forest Lodge, THIS DAY, at 1 p.m. for the C of E Cemetery Rookwood.
PAYNE- the Friends of Mrs. E. Remington and FAMILY, of 145 Johnston Street, Annandale, are kindly invited to attend the FUNERAL of her late BROTHER and their UNCLE, Charles Henry Payne; to leave 25 Junction Street, Forest Lodge, THIS DAY, at 1 p.m. for the C of E Cemetery Rookwood.
SOPHIE JANE CAMERON:

Father: Alexander Campbell Cameron, b. 1 Nov 1828 (or 29), London. Cordial Manufacturer

Mother: Eliza Field, c. 20 Jun 1847, Argyle, NSW

SOPHIE JANE CAMERON:

Burial: 23 Jan 1957, Rookwood Cemetery

Children of CHARLES PAYNE and SOPHIE CAMERON are:

i. HORACE R JOHN5 PAYNE, b 19 Jan 1900 Seymore Street, Bathurst d. 9 Aug 1901, Newtown, Cobar NSW. Cause of death Acute Gastric Enteritis, Convulsions

53. ii. LILY ELIZA PAYNE, b. 25 Oct 1901, Cobar rg 30903; d. 11 Jul 1986, Ashfield NSW.

iii. JESSIE MARIA PAYNE, b. 1 May 1905, Salisbury Road Boulder City, WA; d. 01 Aug 1916, Royal Alexandra Hospital for Children 11 years rg 12729.

Burial: 03 Aug 1916, Rookwood Anglican Cemetery

Cause of Death: Jaundice
54. iv. THELMA DAISY PAYNE, b. 06 Aug 1908, Kalgoorlie WA; d. 21 Dec 1978, at Calvary Hospital, late of Coogee.

55. v. CHARLES ALEXANDER PAYNE, b. 15 Jun 1909, Kalgoorlie WA; d. 13 Sep 1982, at Lidcombe, late of Greenacre.

56. vi. LAURA (PAT) PAYNE, b. 24 Jun 1911, Kalgoorlie WA; d. 12 Sep 1959, Eastern Suburbs Hospital, late of Coogee.

57. vii. MIRIAM ALICE PAYNE, b. 23 Aug 1913, Boulder City WA; d. 26 Nov 1987, St Vincent’s Hospital Sydney NSW.

10. CAROLINE JANE4 PAYNE (CHARLES JAMES3, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 1876 in Tuena NSW, and died 50 George Street, 15 Oct 1952 in Dover Heights, NSW. She married (1) JAMES CHARLES HOLLIS 18 Apr 1892 in Tuena NSW. He was born 1855 in Sydney, and died 30 Jul 1912 in Tuena, NSW. She married (2) SIDNEY BOWERS BURGE 1913 in Balmain NSW. He was born 1869 in Bathurst, his parents were Samuel Burge & Eliza Jane Hill. He died 19 Mar 1936 in Dulwich Hill NSW

SMH 16 Oct 1952

BURGE Caroline (Nurse Hollis)

-October 15, 1952 at Dover Heights late of Stanmore mother of James, Arthur (deceased) Edna and Jean


JAMES CHARLES HOLLIS:

Burial: 31 Jul 1912, Tuena Cemetery

Occupation: Mail Contractor

SMH Thursday

29 May 1902

BURGE v. BURGE.


Elizabeth Burge, formerly Corbett, petitioned for a divorce from Sidney Bowers Burge on the ground of desertion for three years and upwards. The parties were married at Sydney in January, 1892, according to the rites of the Church of England. His Honor granted a decree nisi, returnable in three months, petitioner to have the custody of her child, and respondent to pay 7s 6d a week for the support of the child.

Children of CAROLINE PAYNE and JAMES HOLLIS are:

58. i. JAMES HERCULES5 HOLLIS, b. 1893, Cassilis NSW; d. 05 Oct 1968, Petersham NSW.

ii. ARTHUR E HOLLIS, b. 1896, Blayney, NSW; d. 1896, Blayney NSW.

iii. EDNA 'EDWINA' 'TED' LEONE HOLLIS5 BURGE, b. 1908, Wallerwang NSW; d. 30 Oct 1974, Dover Heights NSW; m. (1) PHILLIP CHARLES MURRAY, 1934, Sydney, NSW n/i; b. 24 Sep 1906, Dulwich Hill, NSW; d. 10 Feb 1942, WW2; m. (2) STEWART MURDOCH CUTHBERTSON, 1953, Sydney NSW; d. 06 Jan 1965, Dover Heights NSW.

11. MARY ADELAIDE4 PAYNE (CHARLES JAMES3, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 1878 in Tuena NSW, and died 12 Nov 1945 in Home of Peace, Marrickville NSW. She married PRINCE ALFRED COATES 1901 in Bathurst rg 6163. He was born 1873 in Carcoar rg 9007, the son of Alfred Coates & Maria Read, he died 09 Aug 1942 in Randwick, NSW.


MARY ADELAIDE PAYNE:

Burial: 12 Nov 1945, Rookwood Anglican Cemetery

Cause of Death: Cerebral Degeneration, Arterio Sclerosis

Children of MARY PAYNE and PRINCE COATES are:

i. WILLIAM ALFRED5 COATES, b. 1906 Boulder WA. d. 28 Nov 1981, Lakemba NSW m 1930 EILEEN E STEWART, Sydney NSW

ii. JOHN 'JACK' CHARLES COATES, b. 1909, Boulder W.A.; d. 24 Jun 1988, Avoca NSW, m 1937 ELIZABETH MADORA LUCEY, Sydney NSW.

12. HENRIETTA 'ETTIE'4 PAYNE (CHARLES JAMES3, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 1881 in Tuena NSW, and died 11 May 1967 in Leichhardt NSW rg 21225. She married DANIEL A REMINGTON 1902 in Cobar NSW 6526/1902. He was born 1875, and died 10 Jul 1918 in Crouy British Cemetery, France.
DANIEL A REMINGTON:

Regimental number 5200

Religion Roman Catholic

Occupation Miner

Address Oakdean; corner Cannon and Yule Streets, Petersham, New South Wales

Marital status Married

Age at embarkation 40

Next of kin Mrs. E Remington, corner Cannon and Yule Streets, Petersham, New South Wales

Enlistment number 6262838

Date of enlistment from Nominal Roll 25 November 1915

Embarkation details Unit embarked from Sydney, New South Wales, on board SS Makarini on 1 April 1916

Rank from Nominal Roll Private

Unit from Nominal Roll Australian Employment Company

Fate Died of disease 10 July 1918

Place of burial Crouy British Cemetery (Plot III, Row E, Grave No. 18), Crouy-Sur-Somme, France

Panel number, Roll of Honour, Australian War Memorial 41


SMH

27 July 1918

REMINGTON.-, Daniel Remington, 4th Battalion, died of pneumonia, France July 10, 1918.

Inserted by his sorrowing wife and children, Thelma, Hazel, Horace, Cleve

REMINGTON -Daniel Remington, inserted by his sister in law and nephews, Hercules and Arthur Hollis.

REMINGTON-Private D Remington died of pneumonia. Inserted by his loving mother, father in law, and sister in law, C, M., and Miriam Payne

REMINGTON - Daniel Remington 4th Battalion, died from pneumonia, July 10, 1918 Inserted by his sister and brother in law, J and E M. Wilson, Post office, Blackheath

Children of HENRIETTA PAYNE and DANIEL REMINGTON are:

i. EILEEN THELMA5 REMINGTON, b. 1905; d. 13 Sep 1989, Ashbury NSW; m. WILLIAM JOHN KENNETH BENNETTS, 1939, Petersham NSW; b. 1913; d. 20 May 1994, Ashbury NSW.

ii. HAZEL REMINGTON, b. 1907, Cobar NSW; m. ROY HOPETOUN MULLER, 1936, Annandale NSW; d. 02 Oct 1986, Leichhardt NSW.

iii. ARTHUR HORACE REMINGTON, b. 23 Jan 1912, Annandale rg 950; d. 10 Jan 1966, RGH, Concord, late of West Pymble; m. DOROTHY 'DORIS' EILEEN MAY SMITH, 1936, Annandale NSW; b. 1915; d. 04 Feb 2001, Manly NSW.
REMINGTON, ARTHUR HORACE

Service Australian Army

Service Number NX90093

Date of Birth 23 Jan 1912

Place of Birth ANNANDALE, NSW

Date of Enlistment 24 Feb 1942

Locality on Enlistment ANNANDALE, NSW

Place of Enlistment PADDINGTON, NSW

Next of Kin REMINGTON, DORIS

Date of Discharge 16 Nov 1945

Rank Private

Posting at Discharge 1 AUST ARMD BDE W/S

WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
iv. CLEVE ALFRED REMINGTON, b. 28 Sep 1912, Cobar rg 41502; d. 22 Feb 1987, Kingsgrove NSW; m. JOAN DAVIES, 1942, Petersham rg 1354; b. 1918; d. 07 Oct 1968, Kingsgrove NSW.
REMINGTON, CLEVE ALFRED

Service Australian Army

Service Number N186092

Date of Birth 28 Sep 1911

Place of Birth COBAR, NSW

Date of Enlistment 27 May 1941

Locality on Enlistment LEICHHARDT, NSW

Place of Enlistment LEICHHARDT, NSW

Next of Kin REMINGTON, HENRIETTA

Date of Discharge 28 Jun 1945

Rank Lance Sergeant

Posting at Discharge 3 AUST FARM COY A A S C

WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display

Prisoner of War No


13. 'ETHEL' MATILDA4 PAYNE (CHARLES JAMES3, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 1884 in Tuena NSW, and died 07 May 1965 in Castle Hill rg 18854. She married ROBERT JAMES WILSON 1 Mar 1906 in St. James Church McLean rg 1648. He was born 1877 in Grafton, the son of Charles Wilson & Jane Ball, he was a Telegraph Operator. He died 1964 in Paddington rg 6148 Charles/Jane.

Children of 'ETHEL' PAYNE and ROBERT WILSON are:

i. ROBERT G5 WILSON, b. 1907, Newtown rg 16322; d. 1927, Sydney rg 281.

ii. ETHEL IRIS WILSON, b. 1908, McLean rg 26185; d. 08 Feb 1988, late of Tuncurry, formerly of Moruya; m. WILLIAM ROY RANDWICK POLLOCK, 1933, Randwick NSW; b. 1909; d. 11 Jul 1994, late of Tuncurry, formerly of Moruya.

iii. CHARLES ARTHUR WILSON, b. 08 Jun 1913, Stanmore rg 14075; m. RUBY MAY ANNIE NICHOL, 1936, Woollahra NSW; d. 21 Dec 2011, late of Maclean, NSW.

59. iv. GWENDOLINE JOYCE WILSON, b. 1916, Waratah rg 21536.

v. KEITH WILSON, b. 19 Apr 1924, Camperdown NSW.

14. GRACE MAUD ROHAN4 PAYNE (CHARLES JAMES3, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 1887, and died 17 Jun 1970 Glaldesville Hospital NSW from R Basal Pneumonia. She married ROBERT JAMES COTTER 1905 in St Peters NSW.


SMH

22 JUNE 1972

COTTER Grace Maude - June 17 1970 at hospital, beloved mother of the late Victor John Cotter

Children of GRACE PAYNE and ROBERT COTTER are:

60. i. ROBERT ROY5 COTTER, b. 1907, Cobar NSW; d. 02 Aug 1973, Redfern NSW.

ii. VICTOR JOHN COTTER, b. 25 Jun 1909, Cobar NSW; d. 27 Feb 1963, Marrickville NSW; m. EMILY EILEEN PEARSON, 1933, Sydney NSW; d. 06 Jun 1986, Villawood NSW.

iii. FREDERICK WESTCOURT COTTER, b. 06 Nov 1917, Paddington NSW.

iv. BERLY GRACE COTTER b c 1930 m 1952 LESLIE GEORGE PILSEAM>


15. MIRIAM EDITH4 PAYNE (CHARLES JAMES3, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 01 Jan 1895 in Tuena NSW, and died 26 Feb 1973 in Ashbury, NSW. She married OWEN BURTON HUNTER 1919 in Annandale rg 1649. He died 1953 in Ashfield, NSW.
WW1

7th Light Horse Regiment A.I.F.

After the war he and Miriam took up a soldier’s settlement at Gulgarabone NSW
Owen Burton HUNTER

Regimental number 495

Religion Church of England

Occupation Station hand

Address Croydon

Marital status Single

Age at embarkation 24

Next of kin: Father, Arthur Herbert Hunter, 68 Church Street, Croydon, Surrey, England

Enlistment date 9 October 1914

Rank on enlistment Private

Unit name 7th Light Horse Regiment, C Squadron

AWM Embarkation Roll number 10/12/1

Embarkation details Unit embarked from Sydney, New South Wales, on board Transport A31 Ajana on 19 December 1914

Rank from Nominal Roll Private

Unit from Nominal Roll 7th Light Horse Regiment

Fate Returned to Australia 3 January 1916


SMH


28 Feb 1973
HUNTER Miriam Edith - Feb 26 1973 at hospital, of 16 Kelvin Street, Ashbury, widow of Owen Burton Hunter, loved mother of Alan and Kevin (Both deceased) and Noel, dear mother-in-law of Judith, fond grandmother of Gai, Katherine(deceased) Elizabeth, Alan and Robyn. Aged 78 years. Cremated at Rookwood Crematorium.

Children of MIRIAM PAYNE and OWEN HUNTER are:

i. ALAN CHARLES ARTHUR5 HUNTER, b. 14 Jul 1919, Blackheath, NSW; d. 12 Jul 1945, 8 DIVISION PROVOST COMPANY.
Alan Charles Arthur Hunter

Service number: NX24461

Rank: Staff Sergeant

Unit: 8 Division Company Provost Corps

Service: Australian Army

Conflict: 1939-1945

Date of death: 12 July 1945

Place of death: Borneo

Cause of death: Illness

Source: AWM147 Roll of Honour cards, 1939-1945 War, 2nd AIF (Australian Imperial Force) and CMF (Citizen Military Force)


ii. KEVIN JOHN HUNTER, b. 17 May 1920, Glebe Point, NSW; d. 07 Nov 1943, Army Headquarters.
HUNTER KEVIN JOHN Service Number - NX43642 : Date of birth - 17 May 1920 : Place of birth GLEBE POINT NSW : Place of enlistment - PADDINGTON NSW : Next of Kin - HUNTER OWEN

Contents date range 1939 - 1948

Series number B883

NX43642


Rank: Private

Unit: Admin HQ Malaya

Service: Australian Army

Conflict: 1939-1945

Date of death: 7 November 1943

Source: AWM147 Roll of Honour cards, 1939-1945 War, 2nd AIF (Australian Imperial Force) and CMF (Citizen Military Force

Records of service maintained in Changi POW Camp for NSW enlistees serving in Malaya at the time of capitulation
61. iii. NOEL BURTON HUNTER, b. 16 Jun 1925, Millthorpe, NSW; d. 11 Aug 1994, Ashbury, NSW.
Name HUNTER, NOEL BURTON

Service Royal Australian Air Force

Service Number 440194

Date of Birth 16 Jun 1925

Place of Birth MILLTHORPE, NSW

Date of Enlistment 25 Sep 1943

Locality on Enlistment Unknown

Place of Enlistment SYDNEY, NSW

Next of Kin HUNTER, OWEN

Date of Discharge 14 Feb 1946

Rank Leading Aircraftman

Posting at Discharge AIR DEFENCE HEADQUARTERS HIGGINS

WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display

Prisoner of War No


16. CHARLES HENRY4 CRAMP (ELIZABETH 'LOUISA'3 PAYNE, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 31 Jan 1863 in Binda NSW, and died 15 Oct 1938 in Binda NSW. He married MARY ISABELLA ROBERTSON 21 Jun 1893 in House of Lachlan Robertson, Commissioner Creek, Binda, daughter of LACHLAN ROBERTSON and SARAH MCLEAN. She was born 17 Jun 1872 in Taralga, and died 02 Oct 1943 in Binda NSW. Charles had purchased the Royal Hotel in Reids Flat, and sold it in 1914, to his brother, Alfred.
CHARLES HENRY CRAMP:

The witnesses at there wedding were Benjamin Cramp and Eliza Marion Robertson

1921 "The Valley" Binda 1,686 acres Large Stock 46 sheep 1,056
OBITUARY

'' Crookwell NSW Gazette''

October 18, 1943
Mrs. Mary Cramp, wife of the late Charles Cramp, passed away at the district Hospital on Saturday, October 2nd, at the age of 70 years.
Three daughters and two sons survive. The daughters are: Vera (Mrs. Harold Eldridge, of Binda, Aileen (Mrs. R. Craig, of Binnaway) and Neta (Mrs. A. Branson, of Crookwell). Hilton and Max Cramp, of Binda, are the sons. Four Sisters & two brothers survive. They are Mrs. .Roberts (Casino), Mrs. Nightingale (Lithgow), Mrs. McGuire (Guerie), Mrs. Irwin (Coolah), Charles Robertson (Punchbowl) and Hector Robertson (Lithgow). Two brothers and one sister predeceased her some years ago. The funeral, which was largely attended, was conducted by the Rev. Canon G.A.M. Nell, the remains being laid to rest in the Church of England Cemetery, Binda.

Children of CHARLES CRAMP and MARY ROBERTSON are:

62. i. HILTON GAVIN5 CRAMP, b. 05 May 1893, Binda NSW; d. 26 Jun 1968, Crookwell NSW.

63. ii. EULALIE VERA CRAMP, b. 12 Mar 1897, Tuena NSW; d. 26 Aug 1969, Orange NSW.

64. iii. AILEEN LOUISE MARION CRAMP, b. 21 Aug 1899, Binda NSW; d. Auburn NSW.

65. iv. JUNETTE PAULINE CRAMP, b. 27 Apr 1901, Binda NSW; d. 05 Mar 1980, Crookwell NSW.

66. v. MAXWELL CHARLES CRAMP, b. 19 Oct 1907, Binda NSW; d. 03 Jul 1973, Sydney NSW.

17. ALFRED JOSEPH4 CRAMP (ELIZABETH 'LOUISA'3 PAYNE, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 1866 in Crookwell River rg 16841, and died 05 Nov 1951 in Cowra NSW (86) rg 31165/1951 Young. He married CLARA NEWHAM 1899 in Boorowa Rg 5601, daughter of THOMAS NEWHAM and ELLEN HAMMOND. She was born 09 Jan 1877 in Rg Burrowa 10217, and died 20 Mar 1962 in Cowra NSW.

Alfred conducted the Royal Hotel at Reids Flat. Alfred was a keen supporter of sporting events in the village. He retired to live in Young after spending 23 years in Reids Flat.
ALFRED JOSEPH CRAMP:

Burial: Cowra


CLARA CRAMP:

Burial: Cowra

Child of ALFRED CRAMP and CLARA NEWHAM is:

67. i. ATHLENE SYLVIA5 CRAMP, b. 15 Apr 1900; d. 17 Dec 1983, Cowra (83).

18. BENJAMIN4 CRAMP (ELIZABETH 'LOUISA'3 PAYNE, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 1868 in Crookwell River rg 9355, and died 01 Dec 1939 in Sydney NSW. He married CLARA JANE BISHOP 1901 in Cowra NSW, daughter of JOHN BISHOP and ELIZABETH POUND. She was born 1879 in Cowra Rg 12339/1879, and died 13 Feb 1968 in Five Dock NSW.

Children of BENJAMIN CRAMP and CLARA BISHOP are:

i. ERIC EDWIN5 CRAMP, b. 1901, Cowra NSW; d. 1970, Liverpool NSW; m. MAY EGAN, 1926, Hurstville NSW; d. 1936, Hurstville NSW.

68. ii. ELSIE ANNE CRAMP, b. 1904, Cowra NSW; d. Living 1980 Wagga Wagga.

iii. JOHN CRAMP, b. 27 Dec 1906, Cowra NSW; m. GWENETH MAY HOWE, 1943, Canterbury NSW; b. 1906; d. 24 Jun 2004, at Bayview Gardens Nursing Home, formerly of Yagoona.

19. ADA ANN LAURA4 CRAMP (ELIZABETH 'LOUISA'3 PAYNE, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 1870 in Crookwell River rg 19286, and died 1954 in 24153/1954 Orange. She married EDWIN JAMES MUIR 1905 in Cowra Rg 9427, son of JOHN MUIR and MARY MCNAB. He was born 22 Nov 1867 in Kendall Street, Cowra, NSW, and died 12 Sep 1917 in Cowra Rg 12455.


Cowra Free Press

Wednesday, December 1919


Rum in the Teapot case again

Ada Ann Laura Muir, licensee of the Great Western Hotel, was charged with supplying an unauthorised person, Denis George Keegan, with liquor during prohibited hours.

Mr. Phillips for defendant, who pleaded not guilty.

Sergeant Spicer gave similar evidence to that previously appearing in these columns when Keegan was charged with obtaining liquor during prohibited hours.

Jury Cramp stated he supplied Keegan with rum as he said he was sick. He added that Keegan did not come to the premises, but was handed it on the footpath.

Denis George Keegan stated he was handed the liquor over the picket fence in the front of the hotel, but did go onto the verandah.

In reply to Sergeant Parker witness said he was not on the premises at all.

Defendant was fined 20 shillings, with ₤6, 8s costs, twenty four hours being allowed to pay.


Cowra Free Press

Saturday, October 8, 1921


Supplying an Aboriginal with liquor

A Cowra Hotel keeper Charged


Case Again Adjourned in Spite of Defendants Attorney's Protest

Ada Muir, licensee of the Great Western Hotel, was charged before Mr. Longfield, S.M, on Wednesday, with allowing liquor to be supplied to an Aboriginal.

Mr. Gilcrest for defendant, who pleaded not guilty.

Constable Sams deposed that at 10.35 am on September 12, he was on duty in Lachlan Street, saw Thomas Coe, a half cast aboriginal, enter the bar of the Great Western Hotel; went inside and saw Jury Cramp standing behind the bar; Coe was standing in front of the bar with a glass of beer in front of him; said to Coe ''Why did you come in here after a drink''? He made no reply; said to Cramp ''Why did you serve Coe with a drink''? He replied,’ I forgot all about it''; said ''You'll more than likely hear more about this'';

Thomas Delaney, a resident of Lachlan Street, Cowra, was also standing at the bar with a glass of beer in front of him; had not seen Delaney since Coe lived at Erambie Mission.

To Mr. Gilcrest; can see that Coe has aboriginal blood in him; have known him 18 months or two years; Coe has been away from Cowra a week or two during that time; he told me he lived at the Mission; have seen him there; have not seen people there who don't belong to the Mission.

To the Police; Coe was not injured or ill and did not produce a Dr's certificate.

Thomas Coe deposed he was an aboriginal residing at West Cowra; had been residing on the Erambie Mission reserve about 12 months; was a married man with a family; they all resided on the reserve; on September 12, was in the company with a man named Delaney; went with him to the Great Western Hotel and had a drink of beer; Delaney paid for it; Jury Cramp served them; remembered Constable Sams came in.

To Mr. Gilcrest; My father was a quarter cast; my mother died when I was young; I don't know what she was.

Sergeant Lenon deposed he was guardian of the aborigines at Cowra; furnish returns in connection with the aborigines; have copies of some; reserve No 11,634, of 3 acres, 1 rod, 9 perch was set aside for the use of aborigines.

D.M Reed, C.L.A. for Cowra Land District, produced a map of the parish of Cowra showing a reservation for the use of aborigines.

Mr. Gilcrest; I object.

S.M; It doesn't seem to be the correct way of proving it.

Sergeant Lenon; I'll have to ask for an adjournment then.

Mr. Gilcrest; I cannot agree to it. It's not our fault. We prepared to go on at the last court.

S.M.; I think I'll have to grant the adjournment. It was adjourned at your request on one occasion.

Mr. Gilcrest; It's hard on my client.

S.M: An adjournment can't do any damage, and it's only a technical objection.

Mr. Gilcrest: The police should have been prepared to go on.

S.M.; I'm aware of that, I know if it had been my case I'd have had the gazette here.

Mr. Gilcrest; It is very unfair that we should be saddled with costs. The police should not be protected anymore than the public.

Sergeant Lenon: We can prove Coe has been living at the Mission.

Mr. Gilcrest; I'd ask your Worship for a dismissal.

S.M; I don't think the map is sufficient evidence. Can a gazette be procured locally?

Sergeant Lenon; It might be possible, but if the case is adjourned it cannot effect anyone.

Mr. Gilcrest: The case should be adjourned.

S.M; I'll adjourn the case until October 11.

A case against Jury Cramp in connection with the same matter was also adjourned.


Cowra Free Press

Wednesday October 12, 1921


Allowing an Aboriginal to be Served with Liquor
Local Hotel keeper Fined

The adjourned case, in which Ada Laura Muir, licensee of the Great Western Hotel, was charged with allowing an aboriginal to be served with liquor, was concluded before Mr. Longfield, S.M, on Tuesday.

Sergeant Lenon produced a Government Gazette dated June 7, 1890, showing a proclamation re Reserve No 11,364, county of Forbes, parish of Mulyan; the aboriginal was living on that reserve; to witness's knowledge Coe had been living on the reserve when not away at work.

Mr. Gilcrest submitted there was no evidence to identify the reserve as being the one referred to in the Gazette.

Sergeant Lenon; There is only one aboriginal reserve here.

Mr. Gilcrest; There was no evidence given at the last court.

S.M; The evidence has been given today though!

Mr. Gilcrest; If you overrule me in that I take the point that there is no proof Coe is an aboriginal native of NSW

S.M; He says himself he is an aboriginal native of Australia.

Mr. Gilcrest; Yes, but there is no proof either he or his parents are aboriginal natives.

S.M; Have you any authorities?

Mr. Gilcrest; There is a case in 27 weekly notes. However I'll have that for the present. My client is charged with allowing liquor to be supplied to an aboriginal. There is no evidence of that.

S.M; In the case of ex - parte Willans it was held the licensee was liable if his wife served in his absence.

Mr. Gilcrest: In this case it is the barman, and he couldn't be presumed to have the same authority as a wife.

S.M: Under section 81 the chief Justice says the licensee is liable or any person he leaves in charge.

Mr. Gilcrest; There is no evidence of that. There's nothing to show that Cramp had any authority.

S.M: Constable Sams asked Cramp why he served Coe and he replied ''I forgot all about it''. The fact that he was serving in the bar is sufficient unless it is shown he was there with out authority; I won't dismiss the information on that ground.

Mr. Gilcrest: I'll ask for my objection to be noted.

S.M; Very Well.

Sergeant Lenon; I'd refer your Worship to the case of Beer v Lynch. On December 2, 1919, defendant was fined for allowing unauthorised persons on her licensed premises, and she was fined ₤5 pounds later on for a like offence.

S.M; How is the Hotel conducted?

Sergeant Lenon; It is a very quite place. Aboriginals have easy access there and being very slippery customers are hard to catch.

S.M; There is also a charge against Cramp?

Sergeant Lenon; We're prepared to withdraw it.

S.M; She's fined ₤5 pounds, with 8 shillings costs, 14 days are allowed to pay and half the fine is to go to the police Rewards Fund

''Cowra Free Press''

Saturday, September 15, 1917
OBITUARY
The Late Mr. Edwin James Muir

On Wednesday night at about half past seven o'clock, we much regret to record, Mr. Edwin James Muir, the respected licensee of the Great Western Hotel, breathed his last, at his residence. Although Mr. Muir had been an intense sufferer for a considerable period from kidney trouble, which is believed to have had it's origin in an accident met with in his early youth through a fall from a horse, it was hoped by his relatives and many friends that he would be able to combat the complaint, but alas, it was not to be, a higher destiny ruling otherwise. A sorrowing wife a daughter of the late Mr. Alfred Cramp and one little son survive to mourn the loss of a fond and devoted husband and father.

The late Mr. Muir was the third son of the late Mr. and Mrs. John Muir, very old and much esteemed residents of our town and district. He was a native of Cowra, having been born here in 1867; consequently he was in his 50th year. The best part of his life was passed in the Cowra district, hence he was widely known. Our sympathy goes out to the sorrowing widow and bereaved relations in the fullest measure. The remains were interred in the Presbyterian portion of the cemetery on Thursday in the presence of a very large gathering of mourners. The Rev Jas. Barr officiated at the grave side.

Burial: 13 Sep 1917, Cowra Presbyterian

Child of ADA CRAMP and EDWIN MUIR is:

i. DAVID MAXWELL ALFRED5 MUIR, b. 1912, Glebe Rg 42428; d. Living Orange 1980; m. MAVIS ANN HILLIER, 1945, Orange RG 10765.

20. HENRIETTA LETITIA4 CRAMP (ELIZABETH 'LOUISA'3 PAYNE, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 17 Jun 1872 in Crookwell River rg 19882, and died 15 Apr 1956 in Five Dock NSW. She married FRANK BENNETT 1905 in Sydney Rg 266. He was born in Sydney NSW.

Child of HENRIETTA CRAMP and FRANK BENNETT is:

i. DOREEN EDELINE KERSHAW5 BENNETT, b. 1915; d. 09 Aug 1998, Mosman NSW; m. PHILLIP SAMUEL YATES, He was born 1904 Burwood NSW. They married in 1927, Sydney Rg 2001; He d. 03 Mar 1971, Vaucluse NSW.

21. JOSIAH 'JOSEPH' PHILLIP4 CRAMP (ELIZABETH 'LOUISA'3 PAYNE, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 04 Aug 1881 in ''The Forest'', Binda rg 13099, and died 01 Feb 1953 in 75 Terence Street, Windsor NSW. He married OLIVE HOBBS 28 Jan 1911 in St. Paul’s Church Sydney NSW, daughter of EDWARD HOBBS and ELIZA NEAL. She was born 1888 in Dubbo NSW, and died 1971 in 6166/1971.


JOSIAH 'JOSEPH' PHILLIP CRAMP:

Witnesses to the marriage: A. N. WHITE, J. W. WATERS, E. B. HOBBS


JOSIAH 'JOSEPH' PHILLIP CRAMP:

Burial: Rookwood

Children of JOSIAH CRAMP and OLIVE HOBBS are:

i. MARIE5 CRAMP.

ii. VALERIE CRAMP, b. 1910; m. BEN ZION CHARLES EGLITSKY, 1942, Orange NSW; d. 23 Nov 1986, Tweed Heads NSW.

iii. OLIVE 'MOLLY' JOSEPHINE CRAMP, b. 1911, Tamworth NSW; d. 1973, Lithgow NSW; m. EDMUND JOHN WILLIAMS, 1944, Randwick Rg 5264; d. 06 May 2001, Lithgow NSW.

22. EDWARD 'ALEXANDER'4 BAKER (MARY ANN MARIA3 PAYNE, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 11 Apr 1869 in Crookwell Grove, Crookwell NSW, and died 01 Oct 1951 in Crookwell NSW. He married (1) ELIZABETH CRIDGE 1892 in Crookwell NSW, daughter of JOHN CRIDGE and MARY HIGGS. She was born 1871 in Braidwood NSW, and died 1892 in Goulburn rg Argyle 2017 NSW. He married (2) CATHERINE MARGARET LARKHAM 16 Sep 1902 in Crookwell NSW, daughter of JAMES LARKHAM and CATHERINE MCDONALD. She was born 15 Feb 1881 in Reedy Creek, Thalaba NSW, and died 21 Aug 1966 in Corrimal NSW.
EDWARD 'ALEXANDER' BAKER:

Crookwell NSW

Gazette 2 January 1927

Donald Larkham retired grazier of Laggan asked for an order of the Court giving him possession of certain lands leased to Alexander Baker. The defendant arrived late at court to state his case and an order was made out that possession should be given to Larkham, between 4th - 26th February next. Order for costs ₤2/10/- was given against defendant who stated he came to court prepared to pay all he owed complainant. A further remark about flaw in lease advised by his worship that was matter for another court.

OBITUARY

Edward Alexander Baker


Following ill-health for the past few years, Mr. Edward Alexander Baker, of Robertson Street, Crookwell NSW, passed away quietly at his home on Monday, October 1, 1951, at the age of 82 years. Born at Binda in 1869, he was the son of William and Mary Ann Baker. The deceased led an active life and shearing was his main occupation.

At the age of 16 years, he carried the Crookwell NSW-Binda mail on horse-back. On 16th .September. 1902 he married Catherine Margaret Larkham, who survives him. The surviving daughters are; Ettie (Mrs. Goodman, Cowra), Elsie (Mrs. Cramp, Cowra), Beatrice (Mrs. J Hesse, Cowra), Edna (Mrs. L Churchill, Crookwell), Vera (Mrs. C Yates Crookwell), Phyllis (Mrs. M Patey, Crookwell), Jean (Mrs. H Murphy, Bellambi), Maisie (Mrs A Adams, Crookwell), Molly (Mrs G Miller, Laggan) Two other daughters predeceased him. Gregory (St Peter's), Aubrey (Bellambi) and Peter (Crookwell) are the surviving sons. There are 17 grandchildren and 6 great grandchildren.


The late Mr Baker is also survived by three sisters and four brothers, Mrs Thomas McGrath (Wingham), Mrs Thorley (Hornsby), Mrs C Thornton (Earlwood), Joseph (The Elms), George (Crookwell), John (Rozelle), and Guilford (Crookwell)

Following a service held in St Bartholomew's Church, Crookwell, the cortege moved to the Crookwell Cemetery where the burial took place in the Church of England portion.

Rev J.G Donoghue officiated at the service.

The pall-bearers were Messrs G and J Miller, C Yates, N Nicholson.

The funeral arrangements were carried out by Messrs Thomas E Kennedy and Son.

OBITUARY


Mrs. Catherine Margaret Baker
The death of Mrs Catherine Margaret Baker, formally of Crookwell NSW, occurred on August 21, 1966, in the home of her daughter, Mrs Arthur Adams, at Corrimal.

The deceased was born at Thalaba, near Laggan, and had resided there and Crookwell NSW during 75 years of her life span of 85 years.

The youngest of three in the family of the late James and Catherine Larkham (formally McDonald) the deceased is survived by an elder sister, Mrs Jane Thompson (91) of Bathurst; but her brother William Larkham of Goulburn, died only last year, at a very advanced age.

Married to the late Mr Edward Alexander Baker of Crookwell NSW and after residing in Crookwell NSW until several years after his death in 1951, the late Mrs Baker bore and reared a family of eleven children, all of whom survive.

They are ; Elsie (Mrs Cramp, Cowra), Beatrice (Mrs L Hesse, Cowra), Molly (Mrs George Miller, Bathurst), Edna (Mrs Les Churchill, Beverly Hills), Vera (Mrs Col Yates, Crookwell), Phyllis (Mrs Mat Patey, Towradgi), Gregory (Erskineville), Aubrey and Peter, Woonona, Jean (Mrs H Murphy, Bellambi), and Maisie (Mrs A Adams, Corrimal)

Apart from dedication to home life as a devoted wife and mother, and an ardent gardener with special flair for flowers, deceased was also a staunch adherent to and attendant to her Church, and an active church worker. At Crookwell she was for long years a member of Church of England Women's Guild, and of the Country Women's Association.

Mrs Baker moved to Wollongong locality about ten years ago, to reside with members of the family, firstly at Bellambi and finally at Corrimal.

A Funeral service was conducted in St. Bartholomew's Church of England, Crookwell NSW by the Rev Stanley. R Willey, and interment took place in Crookwell NSW Cemetery.

Relatives and friends from widely separated places attended the funeral. Three Grandsons, Geoffrey and Robert Miller (Bathurst), Greg Hesse (Windang) and Grandson-in-law Mervyn Pursell (Penrith) were pall bearers. Burial: Buried Crookwell

Child of EDWARD BAKER and ELIZABETH CRIDGE is:

i. ETHEL GERTRUDE5 BAKER, b. 1892, Crookwell NSW; d. 1964, Sydney NSW reg 1964/1314; m. ALFRED GOODMAN, 1921, Cowra NSW 1921/17442; b. 1892, Grenfell NSW; d. 1960.

Children of EDWARD BAKER and CATHERINE LARKHAM are:

69. ii. ELSIE AILEEN5 LARKHAM, b. 21 Aug 1898, Crookwell NSW; d. 03 May 1972, Cowra NSW.

iii. EMILY ADA LARKHAM, b. Jan 1901, Crookwell NSW; d. 11 Dec 1901, Reedy Creek, Laggan 11 Months.

Burial: Bolong C/E Cemetery

70. iv. BEATRICE CATHERINE BAKER, b. 04 Dec 1902, Crookwell NSW; d. 23 Jun 1981, Windang NSW.

71. v. MARY ANN VIOLA 'MOLLY' BAKER, b. 14 Sep 1905, Laggan NSW; d. 28 Feb 1994, Bathurst NSW.

72. vi. EDNA MARJORIE T BAKER, b. 05 Oct 1907, Crookwell NSW; d. 06 May 1982, Penrith NSW.

73. vii. VERA OLIVE BAKER, b. 24 Feb 1911, 'Leighwood' Laggan; d. 30 Sep 1967, Wollongong NSW.

74. viii. PHYLLIS BAKER, b. 27 Oct 1913, Crookwell NSW 1913/32597; d. 03 Feb 1988, Towradgi NSW.

ix. GREGORY GUILDFORD BAKER, b. 26 Oct 1914, Crookwell NSW; d. 21 Apr 1973, Sydney NSW; m. MARTHA FLORENCE GEOGHEGAN, 1947, Chatswood NSW.

x. AUBREY GEORGE BAKER, b. 03 Aug 1917, Crookwell NSW; d. 13 Mar 1985, Wollongong NSW; m. PHILOMENA BOYS, 1945, Crookwell NSW; b. 1913, Crookwell NSW; the daughter of Alfred J Boys & Ellen Kearns, she d. 23 Mar 1976, Russell Vale NSW.


Death Notice
BAKER Aubrey George (Aub) March 13th, 1985 at Hospital of 33 Williams Crescent, Russell Vale, formally of Crookwell NSW. Beloved husband of the late Phyll Baker, dear brother of Elsie (deceased), Phyllis, Greg (deceased), Jean, Maisie, and Peter. Loved brother-in-law of their families, dear brother-in-law to Cath, John and Ettie, En, Jack and dear uncle of their families. Aged 67 years

At Peace


Death Notice
BAKER, Philomena- March 25th , 1976, suddenly at her residence 33 Williams Crescent, Russell Vale; beloved wife of Aubrey George Baker, loved sister and sister-in-law of Cath and Brian (deceased) King, John and Ettie Boys and Ellen and Jack Sisley.
75. xi. ADA JEAN BAKER, b. 07 Sep 1919, Crookwell NSW; d. Living Woonona 1980.

76. xii. MAISIE BERRELL BAKER, b. 03 Mar 1922, Crookwell NSW; d. 01 Feb 1990, Nowra Hospital NSW.

xiii. RUSSELL 'PETER' BAKER, b. 01 Aug 1925, Crookwell NSW; d. 16 Oct 1996, Shellharbour NSW; m. DOREEN STUCKEY, 14 Dec 1963, Woonona NSW.

23. CHARLES HENRY ALFRED4 BAKER (MARY ANN MARIA3 PAYNE, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 1870 in Crookwell River NSW, and died 24 Feb 1894 in Taralga NSW. He married MARY ANN MCDONALD 23 Dec 1889 in Crookwell NSW 1870/10076, daughter of MALCOLM MCDONALD and CATHERINE MCDONALD. She was born 1863 in Dicks Flat, Registered Carcoar, and died 30 Jan 1949 in Goulburn Hospital (85).


CHARLES HENRY ALFRED BAKER:

Burial: 26 Feb 1894, St. Saviour's Cemetery Goulburn

Occupation: Laborer
MARY ANN BAKER:

Burial: Goulburn General Cemetery

Children of CHARLES BAKER and MARY MCDONALD are:

i. WILLIAM CHARLES5 BAKER, b. 1889, Orange 32423; d. 18 Feb 1957, Campbelltown NSW; m. ETHEL BURNS, 1913, St Leonards NSW.

77. ii. IDA MARY CATHERINE BAKER, b. 12 Aug 1890, Laggan Rg Goulburn; d. 19 Dec 1984, Maroubra NSW.

78. iii. ALEXANDER CHARLES MALCOLM BAKER, b. 07 Nov 1892, Reedy Creek; d. 23 Jun 1947, Crookwell NSW.

24. WILLIAM 'JOSIAH'4 BAKER (MARY ANN MARIA3 PAYNE, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 22 May 1875 in Crookwell River, Binda, and died 12 Jun 1957 in The Elms, Laggan NSW. He married LYDIA JESSIE TRACEY 02 Jan 1907 in Laggan NSW, daughter of JAMES TRACEY and HEPHZIBAH BAKER. She was born 13 Sep 1877 in Crookwell NSW, and died 12 Apr 1964 in Crookwell NSW.
WILLIAM 'JOSIAH' BAKER:

Burial: 13 Jun 1957, Presbyterian Cemetery Crookwell NSW

Cause of Death: CORONARY OCCLUSION

Occupation: Shearer

Child of WILLIAM BAKER and LYDIA TRACEY is:

79. i. MARION ZENA5 BAKER, b. 1909, Crookwell River NSW; d. 22 Oct 1996, Harley Nursing Home Crookwell NSW.

25. BEATRICE4 BAKER (MARY ANN MARIA3 PAYNE, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 1881 in Crookwell River NSW, and died 08 May 1967 in Wahroonga NSW. She married JOHN ARTHUR THORLEY 1910 in St Leonards, NSW. He died 1944 in Granville NSW.

Children of BEATRICE BAKER and JOHN THORLEY are:

i. ISMA LORRAINE DECIMA5 THORLEY, b. 1911, St Leonards NSW; d. 16 Sep 1951, RNSH North Sydney NSW; m. ROBIN WILLIAM SWALLOW, 1940, North Sydney NSW n/i; b. 1897; d. 01 Aug 1955, Goulburn NSW.
ISMA LORRAINE DECIMA THORLEY:

Burial: 18 Sep 1951, North Shore Cremated


80. ii. ADA ALMA THORLEY, b. 1913, Crookwell NSW; d. 27 Apr 2001, Pymble NSW.

26. ADA4 BAKER (MARY ANN MARIA3 PAYNE, CHARLES2, JAMES1) was born 1884 in Crookwell NSW, and died 03 Oct 1968 in The Bay Convalescent Home Blakehurst NSW donated body to science. She married (1) JAMES DANIEL SEAMAN 02 Jul 1902 in C of E Binda NSW divorced 1919, son of EDWARD SEAMAN and ELIZABETH WEEKS. He was born 03 Dec 1872 in Fullerton NSW, and died 1955 in Parramatta NSW. She married (2) CECIL EDMOND THORNTON 1919 in Goulburn NSW, son of WILLIAM THORNTON and LUCY FRUE. He died 17 Oct 1955 in Late of Turramurra, formerly of Crookwell.


Death
Thornton - Ada, October 3rd, 1968, at Bay Convalescent Home, Blackhurst. Late of Crookwell. The loved wife of the late Cecil Edmond Thornton, dearly loved mother of Wilbur, Clive and John, mother-in-law of Grace, Joan and Joan and fond grandmother of their children, aged 84 years. In Gods care.
ADA BAKER:

Divorced: 03 Jul 1902, Crookwell NSW

:

SMH 28 June 1919



SEAMAN v SEAMAN.
Mr. James, instructed by Messrs. Lee and Primrose, represented Ada Seaman (formerly Baker), who sued for a divorce from James Daniel Seaman on the ground of desertion. The marriage took place at the Church of England, Binda, on July 2, 1902. A decree nisi was granted, returnable in six months
THORNTON, Lucy

Crookwell Gazette, Wednesday, 13.8.1924

Personal

The deepest sympathy is expressed with Mr Cecil Thornton in the loss sustained by him in the death of his mother, Mrs Lucy Thornton, of Goulburn. Death took place on Tuesday morning last at the advanced age of 76 years.

Children of ADA BAKER and CECIL THORNTON are:

81. i. JOHN5 THORNTON.

82. ii. WILBUR CECIL THORNTON, b. 01 Aug 1920, Crookwell NSW; d. 23 Sep 1975, Beverley Hills NSW.

83. iii. CLIVE LINDSAY THORNTON, b. 26 Apr 1922, Crookwell NSW; d. 25 Nov 2005, Bowral NSW.





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