More severe: Stevens-Johnson syndrome and Toxic epidermal necrolysis
EM Minor [dermis]
acute, self-limited or recurrent / duration: 1-4 weeks from onset to healing / Symmetrically-distributed, fixed lesions lasting > 7 days / discrete, round, erythematous rings or blisters / concentric color changes / target or iris lesions (concentric circles, middle white, outer red) / mucous membrane involvement absent or limited to one surface, usually the mouth / hands [pic] / feet / arms [pic] / legs / back [pic] / palms (back) / soles (top) / extensor
Target lesions [pic][pic][pic] ( > 3 rings better prognosis?)
EM Major
abrupt onset, high fever, prostration followed by extensive lesion eruption, widespread bullae [pic] / involvement of two or more mucosal membranes (oral, lips [pic], ocular, nasal, genital, rectal) (severe oral involvement distinguishes from TSST)
Steven’s Johnson Syndrome (SJS) [pic] [dermis]
10-15% of epidermis / 5-10% mortality / sulfa drugs, vancomycin, and others / mechanism for dapsone is different
Toxic epidermal necrolysis (TEN) [pic]
> 25% of epidermis / 25-50% mortality / treat at burn center / daily opthalmological exams
Leukocytoclastic vasculitis
purpura (90%), urticaria (10%) / infection, drugs, autoimmune, malignancy / includes Henoch-Schönlein Purpura (children) / complement attracts neutrophils (fibrinoid necrosis of vessels), increases permeability
Drug eruptions [dermis]
Skin changes from cancer chemotherapy
dystrophic nail changes, sterile cellulitis, phlebitis, ulceration of pressure areas, urticaria, angioedema, exfoliative dermatitis, flagellate hyperpigmentation from bleomycin [pic]
Other drug-induced skin changes
Argyria from silver [pic]
Hyper-pigmentation from amiodarone [pic]
Specific Drug Reactions
Morbilliform [pic][pic][pic]
7-10 morbilliform drug reaction– skin/drug-morbilliform / skin biopsy differentiates from viral exanthem / eosinophils
Urticaria – usually itch [pic][pic]
symptoms that may indicate more serious drug reaction: duration, fever, itching, affected areas, sore throat (SJS), red eyes, painful skin
Treatment: topical steroids? / antihistamines?
Lichenoid [pic]
Drugs: gold, tetracyclines, bromides – work them up for HCV
Pustular [pic]
Drugs: Dilantin, penicillin, tetracyclines, lithium, imipenem, antimalarials, norfloxacin
Specific Drugs
Phenytoin (10%) [pic]
occurs within 3 wks / generalized eruptions, patient feels sick / missing epoxide hydrolase?
Dilantin hypersensitivity [pic] / more likely with high loading dose
Common: fever, periorbital facial edema, lymphadenopathy
Complications: hepatitis, nephritis, pneumonitis
Labs: elevated WBCs, LFTs
Carbamazepine (5%)
exfoliative dermatitis, eczema, photosensitivity or even a lupus like syndrome, even TEN
Lamotrigine (Lamictal) (20%) [pic][pic]
fever (100%), eosinophilia (20%), DIC (10%), LAD (12%), liver > renal > musculoskeletal
rash: exanthomatous (75%), more severe (20%), SJS (5%), TEN (10%) (higher risk with combined use of Lamictal and VPA)
Warfarin - coumadin necrosis
0.7% of coumadin users / women > men / 3-5 days onset / most frequently affects fatty
areas (single/multiple thighs, breasts, buttocks, shoulders) / localized pain then erythema,
bullae [pic], necrosis [pic] / happens in patients with protein C deficiency (< 50% normal
levels) as vitamin K block lowers PrC levels before other clotting factors / fibrin thrombi in
venules / can this mimic classic SC fat necrosis?
NSAIDS
can cause the whole gambit / even TEN
Tetracyclines
not that common, but do happen / urticaria, morbilliform, photosensitivity, onycholysis,
fixed drug reaction, lichenoid / minocycline is an exception for causing skin pigmentation
changes (common) and serum sickness (~ day 16), hypersensitivity syndrome of hepatitis,
pneumonitis, cellulitis, folliculitis et al (~ day 24), drug-induced lupus (2 yrs)
Congenital Disorders (Skin Involvement)
Ehlers-Danlos syndrome / NF1 / Tuberous Sclerosis / Sturge-Weber / KTW
Ehlers-Danlos syndrome [dermis]
10 types of faulty collagen synthesis / stretchy skin with poor wound healing, hypermobile joints AD (type IV) - ecchymoses, arterial rupture (acute aortic insufficiency)
AR (type VI) - retinal detachment, corneal rupture)
XLR (type IX) / (type 1) - diaphragmatic hernia
Neurofibromatosis (NF 1 and NF2) [dermis]
1 in 3000/4000 (NF 2 is 1 in 50,000), AD, 50% of cases are new mutations, variable expression, paternal age effect
Must meet 2 of diagnostic criteria: café au lait, Crowe’s sign, more…
Skin – hyperpigmentation or café au lait spots (97%) (more than 6 big ones, shape is variable), freckling (81%) (Crowe’s sign) in axillary areas?, which is pathognomonic [pic]
CNS – neurofibromas, plexiform neurofibromas (more aggressive invasion, rare), CNS tumors (5-10%), optic gliomas, astrocytomas, acoustic neuromas (classic NF-2 tumor), neurilemmomas, meningiomas, neurofibromas, intracranial tumors usually detected in first decade
Opthalmological – Lisch nodules (30%) (balls of tissue on iris that do not impair vision, get a consult)
Skeletal – pseudoarthroses (bones look bent, osteopenia on XR, common in tibia, use brace to give support), kyphoscoliosis, macrocephaly of post-natal onset (soft signs, absolute or relatively large, not correlated with other features of disease)
GI – constipation
Renal – hypertension (should have BP checks, usually occurs in adulthood)
Associated malignancies: neurofibromasarcomas, malignant peripheral nerve sheath tumors, schwannoma’s (more NF II), Wilm’s tumor, rhabdomyosarcoma, leukemia, pheochromocytoma
Genetics: defective chromosome 17, diagnostic testing usually not necessary
Tuberous Sclerosis Complex (see NF)
1:9000, autosomal dominant, high spontaneous mutation rate, variable expression
skin, brain, retina, heart, kidneys
Prognosis: only small percentage have premature death (often from CNS features, renal failure)
Diagnosis: major/minor criteria
Genetics: chromosome 16 (next to APK gene) / TSC1 on 9q34
Skin – facial angiofibromas (can look like acne), hypomelanotic macules, ungal fibromas, (can be removed, usually grow back), shagreen patch (peau d’orange, pig’s skin), fibrous plaques, dental pitting (5-10%)
CNS – seizures, retardation, brain tumors (astrocytoma et al)
Opthalmological – pigmentary changes, hamartomas (may be associated with peculiar SZ’s)
Renal – angiomyolipomas (renal failure, prognostic factors unknown), cysts similar to APK?
Cardiac – rhabdomyomas (regress with time – unique)
Pulmonary – lymphangiomyomatosis (seen almost exclusively in women)
Other – hamartomas
Sturge Weber syndrome [dermis]
Rare, sporadic, defect arising in limited part of cephalic neural crest
Skin – ipsilateral facial angiomatous nevus (laser therapy, begin as early as possible on infant)
CNS – telangiectatic venous angioma of the leptomeninges overlying the occipital, parietooccipital regions or entire cerebrum, more? / CT > age 2 yrs may reveal gyriform intracranial calcification in parietooccipital region / association with pheochromocytoma
Opthalmological – choroidal angioma, glaucoma
Presentation: may cause contralateral hemiparesis/hemisensory loss
Treatment: control seizures or surgical removal
Klippel-Trenaunay-Weber [dermis]
Rare, sporadic, can effect any part of body
Skin – hemangiomatous nevi (may fade with time), localized overgrowth phenomenon may spread with time (require resection, amputation of extremity), more-
CNS – ?
Opthalmological – ?
Skeletal – bone hypertrophy
Vascular - ? cavernous . deeper, larger vessels
Skin Ulceration
Ulcers of Legs and Feet
Arterial insufficiency (see PVD) toes, heels, anterior shin and extended over malleoli
Venous insufficiency above lateral or medial malleoli
Lymphedema
Neuropathic ulcers under metatarsal head, over toe joints, under heel, on inner
side of first metatarsal head, over malleoli
Thromboangiitis obliterans
Cholesterol embolization
Antiphospholipid antibody syndrome
Vasculitis (cryoglobulinemia, Wegener’s, RA)
DIC
HIT
Warfarin skin necrosis
Osteomyelitis
Necrotizing fasciitis (Clostridium, Group A Strep, Vibrio)
Tb
Fungus (cryptococcus, coccidioides)
Hematological disorders
PRV
Essential thrombocythemia
Hydroxyurea
Necrobiosis lipoidica diabeticorum pretibial area
Pyoderma gangrenosum
Sweet’s syndrome
Erythema nodosum
Weber-Christian disease
Cancer (squamous cell carcinoma)
Calciphylaxis
Environmental Pathology / Toxicology
Metals and Inorganic Ingestibles
Aluminum (Al3+)
Chronic hemodialysis patients get too much / acute toxicity: obtundation, coma, seizures / Treatment: deferoxamine (carries risk of mucormycosis?)
Lead (Pb)
binds to disulfide group of proteins
Exposure: ceramics, demolition, plumbing, soldering, exposure to leaded fuels
Acute intoxication: pallor, abdominal pain (lead colic), lethargy, convulsions, coma, renal failure, cerebral edema
Chronic intoxication (anemia, neuropathy, hypertension): CNS impairment (ataxia, memory loss), demyelination (foot and wrist drop), SZ, coma, pyuria, Fanconi’s syndrome, azotemia, chronic interstitial nephritis leading to uricemia, lead lines may be seen at gingiva-tooth border
Labs: Pb > 10,80 ug/dl (children, adults), free protoporphyrin > 35,50 ug/dl (blocks Hb synthesis via inhibition of ferrochetalase and ALA dehydrase, [see diagram])
Micro: microcytic anemia (binds Hb causing hemolysis), basophilic stippling, deposits in epiphyses of growing bones
Route of entry: inhalation, ingestion (PICA)
Metabolism: stored in bone (80%), blood (10%), soft tissues, kidney, brain / excreted in feces 90%), urine (10%)
Treatment: EDTA, dimercaprol, D-penicillamine, succimer (children, oral, side effects: GI/rash)
Arsenic (As)
binds SH groups (As3+), uncouples oxidative phosphorylation (AsO4 substitutes for PO4i), As5+ reduced by glutathione in liver (low levels)
Sources: insecticides, herbicides, wood preserving, smelting, glass manufacturing, microelectronics, contamination of deep water wells, folk remedies)
acute ingestion: GI necrosis (hypovolemia), fatty change in liver, renal failure, burning, NVD, cyanosis, HT, DT, hemolysis, eosinophilia, ATN, garlic breath, cardiomyopathy (cardiac arrhythmias)
chronic ingestion: 2-8 wks, erythroderma [pic], hyperkeratosis, hyperpigmentation, exfoliative dermatitis, laryngitis/tracheitis/bronchitis, Aldrich-Mees lines (white transverse lines of fingernails) [pic], polyneuritis, predispose for SCC
arsine gas (fatal): hemolysis (binds Hb), abdominal pain, hematuria, jaundice, NVD, tachycardia, dyspnea, acute renal failure (from excessive hemolysis) / development
Diagnosis: radiopaque abdomen on XR, elevated levels in hair/ nails, 24 hour urine sample / absorption of inorganic > organic / liver, kidney, spleen by 24 hrs / skin, hair, bones by 2 wks / crosses placenta, not BBB / renal excretion (90%)
Treatment: emesis (ipecac) / gastric lavage (charcoal) / dimercaprol, D-penicillamine (chronic), succimer
Nitrites
Cause methemoglobinemia / including nitroglycerin, amyl nitrate / can occur in well water / venous blood drawn will be brown and not turn bright red when shaken in air
Treatment: methylene blue, helps reduce methemoglobin to hemoglobin preventing methemoglobinemia
Mercury (Hg) – usu. presents with variable CNS effects
elemental, salts (topicals, plastics, cathartics), organic (paints, fungicides, seeds, cosmetics)
vapor: interstitial pneumonitis / tremor, amnesia, insomnia, anorexia, weight-loss (hydrophobic: brain and placenta, but quickly oxidized and long-lived in these tissues)
mercury triad: excitability, tremors, gingivitis
inorganic acute: ATN, GI necrosis (ingestion, low absorption)
inorganic chronic: nephrotic syndrome (readily absorbed by skin/GI and stored in most tissues)
organic: requires metabolism and mixed excretion (binds cysteine, mimics methionine, actively shuttled across BBB and placenta causing severe CNS toxicity)
Treatment: emesis/lavage, dimercaprol, D-penicillamine (oral, leukopenia causes stomatitis/gingivitis)
Note: organic Hg is NOT chelated (makes it worse), but you can use polythiol resin in GI / hemodialysis is not effective since most of Hg inside RBCs
Cadmium
mining, shellfish, cigarettes / absorbed by lungs (chemical pneumonitis), GI (nausea and vomiting), yellow teeth
cadmium-metalothionin complex gets concentrated in lungs (emphysema) and kidneys (renal tubules)
Treatment: ?EDTA (do NOT use dimercaprol)
Iron (see Iron Deficiency Anemia)
children overdosing on someone else’s Fe supplements / Fe disrupts mucosal cells, penetrates freely (not coupled to Tf)
Presentation:
Stage I: gastroenteritis (abdominal pain, vomiting, bloody diarrhea), CNS (coma, seizures)
Stage II: up to 48 hrs of quiescence
Stage III: shock, acidosis, coma, death (may have hepatic damage), leukocytosis common
Stage IV (late sequelae): pyloric and antral stenosis and hepatic cirrhosis, atrophy of tongue papilla (also occurs with vitamin B deficiency)
Treatment: lavage, carbonate salts (fecal excretion), phlebotomy / deferoxamine (Desferal) has high affinity for Fe (does not remove protein bound Fe, may cause local reaction at injection site, not for chronic use)
Fe ingestion over 25 mg/kg is toxic / 300-500 mg/dL – use chelating agent / > 500 – high risk of shock
Organochlorides (DDT, etc.)
prolongs falling phase, neuronal hypersensitivity / tremors, SZ, respiratory depression / increased p450, infertility / cholestyramine, BZs for SZ
Organophosphates (irreversible)
irreversibly phosphorylates AChE / muscarinic, nicotinic, CNS
Treatment:
decontamination (remove clothes, etc.)
anticholinergics (atropine)
anticonvulsants (only benzodiazepines are effective; not other types of SZ meds; may have to give large doses, ~ 40mg)
2-pralidoxime (2-PAM) (effective early, does NOT cross BBB, not effective for carbamates determine dose by pseudocholinesterase activity) / TOCP causes MS-like demyelination
Note: some nerve agents create “aged complexes” which are refractory to oxime treatment
Organocarbamates (reversible, mild Sx)
CCl4 free radical (lipid peroxidation) / liver, CNS, renal failure
benzene linked to acute leukemia, CNS toxicity
hexane peripheral neuropathy
Alcohols
Ethanol (ETOH)
CNS depression, hypoglycemia, vasodilation (CNS depresses peripheral vasculature)
chronic: cirrhosis / FAS
intoxication or inebriation, 100-150 mg/dL
loss of muscle coordination, 150-200 mg/dL
decreased level of consciousness, 200-300 mg/dL
death, 300-500 mg/dL
Methanol (MeOH)
Mechanism: alcohol dehydrogenase (ADH) metabolizes MeOH to formic acid (acidosis) and formaldehyde (retinal ganglion cell blindness, bilateral putamen and claustrum necrosis) at 1/7 th rate of EtOH
Treatment: hemodialysis if early, ethanol competes for ADH, increased excretion of MeOH, but the latest treatment is fomepizole (inhibitor of ADH) which acts in similar mechanism as ETOH but less toxic, more controlled
Prognosis: 1/3 recover, 1/3 severe blindness, 1/3 die
Isopropanol
worse than ethanol, not as bad as methanol / slower oxidation, longer CNS effects
Ethylene glycol
CNS depression (EG), renal failure (oxalate stones), metabolic acidosis (oxalate/formate), hypocalcemia
Treatment: hemodialysis, ethanol, bicarbonate, Ca supplement (oxalate chelates Ca)
Other chemicals
Chlorinated aromatic compounds (TCDD ‘agent orange’, PCB)
induces p450 and others by signal transduction pathways / acute: N&V, HA, irritation, burns causes chloracne / chronic symptoms: elevated porphyrin excretion, hyperpigmentation, CNS, PNS, liver, teratogen/carcinogen?
Inhalants
can cause fatal arrhythmias when combined with catecholamines (such as with exercise after inhalant use)
Bioterrorism (acp resources)
Anthrax (see micro)
Smallpox (see micro)
Yersinia pestis
Tularemia
Level IV Viruses (Lassa, Rift, Ebola, Yellow fever)
Radioactivity (pdf)
acute radiation sickness
prodrome: hours to days / nausea, vomiting, diarrhea
latent phase: 2 to 6 wks with dose-dependent and variable effects / bone marrow suppression (at 2-3 weeks), GI (malabsorption), SZ, death
Nerve Gases (acp) (pier)
Vapor, early symptoms eyes, rhinorrhea, salivation, lacrimation
Later symptoms nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, muscle fasciculations, central apnea, status epilepticus
Treatment: see organophosphates
Sarin (tabun, soman, cyclosarin)
organophosphates / onset within minutes to hours
VX
more stable, can last in environment longer than others, symptoms can occur long after exposure
Mustard Gas (sulfur mustard)
onset 2 hrs to 2 days / skin (erythema), eyes (conjunctivitis, blepharospasm, pain, corneal damage), airway obstruction / late bone marrow suppression (7-21 days) / no antidote / Treatment is supportive
Cyanide
colorless, smell of almonds / eye irritation, flushed skin, confusion, tachypnea, tachycardia, ARDS, hypoxemia, lactic acidosis / Treatment: sodium nitrate, sodium thiosulfate
Drugs of Abuse (see pharm)
Nutritional Pathology / Vitamins
Water soluble
B1 (thiamine) / B2 (riboflavin) / B5 (niacin) / B6 (pyridoxine) / B12 / folate / vitamin C
Fat soluble
A / D / E / K
Kwashiorkor
lack of protein despite sufficient caloric intake / apathy, edema, subcutaneous fat, enlarged fatty liver, low serum albumin / sometimes pigment changes (flaky-paint sign) / anemia due to decreased iron, protein, transferrin
Marasmus
starvation (lack of caloric intake) / alert and hungry (unlike Kwashiorkor) / stunted growth, loss of subcutaneous fat, muscle atrophy / no edema or liver enlargement
Malnutrition
unintentional weight loss > 10% body weight in < 3 months
body weight < 90% ideal for height (< 80% malnourished, < 70% severely malnourished, < 60% incompatible with life)
BMI < 18.5
Thiamine (B1)
precursor of TPP, a cofactor of pyruvate dehydrogenase (alpha-ketoglutarate), transketolase (hexose and pentose phosphate shunt pathways)
Sources: yeast, pork, beef, legumes, whole grains, nuts
Note: coffee/tea reduces levels (by destroying enzyme)
Dosing: can be given IM or IV / always give thiamine to alcoholic before sugar to prevent acute Wernicke’s (from carbohydrate load)
Dry Beri-beri (peripheral neuropathy, Wernicke-Korsakoff)
Wet Beri-beri (peripheral arteriolar dilatation, high output heart failure)
occurs ≥ 3 months of thiamine deficiency
Treatment: thiamine
Ddx (for high-output heart failure): Paget’s, hyperthyroid, AVM, anemia, pregnancy
Riboflavin (B2)
malnutrition, alcoholism / FMN, FAD precursors / dermatitis, neuritis (carpal-tunnel, spinal cord pain, joint pain), mucous membrane
Dosing: oral replacement
biotin, pantothenic acid necessary
choline, carnitine undetermined
Niacin (B5)
severe malnutrition, alcoholism / NAD, NADPH precursors
Deficiency: pellagra [pic][pic] (dermatitis, dementia, diarrhea), photosensitivity
oral replacement / corn-based diets are low in niacin, tryptophan / high dose treats hyperlipidemias (see pharm) / Symptoms: pruritis, flushing, HA
Hartnup’s disease [pic]
defect in GI uptake of neutral amino acids, increased renal tubular loss / (tryptophan is a precursor which can be converted to niacin, corn is low in tryptophan) / causes attacks of cerebellar ataxia, which resolve spontaneously / Treatment: can be reversed by nicotinic acid
Pyridoxine (B6)
converted to cofactor in amino acid metabolism (including homocysteine to cysthionine) / increases peripheral DOPA decarboxylase (so contraindicated for Parkinson’s) / found in legumes, nuts, wheat bran, meat
Decreased by: malnutrition, INH, L-Dopa, penicillamine, ethanol
Deficiency: dermatitis, glossitis, stomatitis, cheilosis, neuritis, carpal tunnel, microcytic/hypochromic anemia
Excess: large amounts over time can cause neuropathy
Cyanocobalamin (B12)
Physiology: acid pH in stomach cleaves B12 from binding protein, intrinsic factor (IF) binds B12 which is then absorbed by ileum and distributed to liver et al via transcobalamin / B12 necessary for conversion of methylmalonyl-CoA to succinyl-CoA
Diagnosis: can check serum B12 levels, serum methylmalonyl-CoA levels may be ↓ in cases with equivocal or normal B12 levels
Deficiency: (note: normal diet can produce enough B12 stores for 10 years!)
folate trapping hyperhomocysteinemia
megaloblastic anemia (most commonly macrocytic anemia but can cause pancytopenia)
CNS myelin problems (malonyl CoA carboxylation) progressive dementia
subacute combined degeneration ataxia, spasticity, loss of proprioception
degeneration of the corticospinal tracts (+) Babinski, weakness
degeneration of large sensory fibers paresthesia, hyporeflexia, absent joint position, vibratory sensation, sensory ataxia
diarrhea
Replacement: must make diagnosis and replace immediately to prevent permanent neurological damage / SC or IM (PO is usually useless)
Folic acid (Folate)
deficiency from enterohepatic recycling disease, duodenal/jejunal disease (sprue), surgery, 1st trimester syndrome
Deficiency: megaloblastic anemia, neural tube defects (1st trimester deficiency), ischemic heart disease (via homocysteinemia as folate is required for conversion of homocysteine to methionine)
Replacement: PO or IM for alcoholics (do not let folate therapy mask B12 anemia) / found in cow’s milk and breast milk (not in goat’s milk), green leafy vegetables
Pregnancy: DM and VPA therapy necessitates an increase of 4 mg/day folate to prevent neural tube defects
Vitamin C (ascorbic acid)
hydroxylation reactions (collagen crosslinking) / facilitates Fe absorption in GI tract / anti-oxidant immune function (wound healing, infection) / neurotransmitter synthesis / scurvy (skeletal changes, hemorrhages; perifollicular papules, capillary fragility)
Replacement: oral replacement / high doses give false positive urine glucose, false negative guaiac / megadose gives diarrhea, renal damage (oxalate stones), can precipitate hemolysis in G6PD patients
Vitamin A (retinoids)
stored in liver / retinol binding protein / eye: 11-cis-retinal plus opsin gives rhodopsin / tissue: retinoic acid (hormone-like action) induces cell growth and differentiation (morphogenesis, epithelial regeneration)
Deficiency: night blindness, xeropthalmia (Bitot’s spots), GI/respiratory barrier disruption
Used for treatment of psoriasis (topical, systemic), acne (topical RA and oral accutane), keratinization disorders, photoaging, acute promyelocytic leukemia, head and neck CA chemoprevention / B-carotene (anti-oxidant) may decrease risk of lung cancer
Excess:
Acute: neurological (increased ICP, vertigo, diplopia, seizures), exfoliative dermatitis
Chronic (>15mg/d for months): lymphadenopathy, pseudotumor cerebri, hepatic fibrosis, hepatic fibrosis bone demineralization (hyperostosis, spurs, fusion)
Teratogenic (congenital malformations, spontaneous abortions)
Vitamin D (see parathyroid)
Vitamin E
anti-oxidant (A,C,E) / reduces cholesterol oxidation, decreases atherosclerosis / deficiency causes spinocerebellar degeneration, skeletal muscle changes, hemolytic anemia in infants
Vitamin K (phytonadione)
carboxylation of prothrombin (II)-complex proteins, VII, IX, X / made by GI flora Deficiency: malabsorption (including antibiotic-induced deficiency, biliary insufficiency), poor dietary intake, liver disease / transient deficiency of newborn (pre-colonization)
increased PT first, then aPTT will also go up later / IM therapy, prophylaxis for newborns
Treatment: can give SC or PO (can give IV but some people think there is increased risk of anaphylaxis; some studies say no) / effect is delayed (so if trying to correct asymptomatic mildly elevated INR, be careful not to give too much)
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