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Name: Sharlini Sent: 4.42 PM - 7/5 2001 You said it, Belinda! I think Ramon has every right to do what he wants with his messageboard. The Irish horse is dead, let's stop flogging it. Live and learn. 
Name: Adam Country: Australia Sent: 4.27 PM - 7/5 2001 I've just found out about this site and what you are doing and I have to say what a great idea. I've been going through the old reports and the one where you were on air with kiss fm in london was brilliant. Don't listen to the people saying bad things about you as they are just just wishing they were in your shoes. Just remember you can only please some of the people some of the time, Not all of the people all of the time. Stay safe and don't do anything I wouldn't do
Name: Belinda Country: Rotterdam Sent: 4.14 PM - 7/5 2001 I think Ramon has all rights to remove certain messages from his messageboard. I found some of them pretty insulting, so Ramon you have my vote! We all should be glad Ramon has put up this messageboard anyway. Now stop bugging around about that little thing and enjoy the rest.
Name: John McCaffrey Country: Coachford, Co Cork Sent: 3.56 PM - 7/5 2001 My fault Alan, I have no internet connection at home
Name: Alan MacDonald Country: Waterford, Ireland Sent: 3.53 PM - 7/5 2001 Hi,
Hey Ramon, just wondering when you are putting up some more reports. Not too busy drying dishes, I hope! [duck] [grin]
rgds, Alan Name: Kieran Country: Donegal Sent: 12.53 PM - 7/5 2001 Can't believe that reports are disappearing from your message board don't you think you leave the messages and not try and monopolise opinions??????
Name: rebecca Country: ireland Sent: 10.11 AM - 7/5 2001 Well said Pat, I too hope that Ramon dosen't feel the need to censor his reports.
Name: sonja Country: austria Sent: 9.54 AM - 7/5 2001 i have read your comment on fairness and your english in your report of monday the 5th july. I hope it doesen´t get too bad because i know from several internet forums that there are some not so nice people in the net. their only hobby is to comment everything and search for failures or make a good thing bad. i hate these people because i still believe that the internet can be used to make a better word. But as a person i don´t know has said: "the internet is a living picture of the whole society - and so as in real life in internet there are also bad people, bad thoughts, jalouse people...." so don´t worry, the people who are telling nice things aren´t so loud as the other ones but they are the majority!!!! hugs and kisses sonja
Name: L.S.O.M. Country: Malaysia Sent: 4.21 AM - 7/5 2001 I learned to wash dishes when I am three, get drunk at the age of 6, play politics at 7 and still wondering what's going on the other side of the world. This site teaches me about PEOPLE presently probing into Ireland. Do not censored any article but L.et S.ynchronize O.ur M.ind for better reception. Ramon, Malaysia welcomes you. Take care always.
Name: Nina Country: Panama Sent: 3.54 AM - 7/5 2001 Ramon, your july 2 report was very very nice, and very descriptive. It made me feel as if I were there. And the pictures are just so beautiful. Thank you for sharing all this with me and everyone. Have fun and stay safe and happy.
Name: Menno Country: Holland Sent: 8.16 PM - 7/4 2001 To Patricia: Ramon stayed with a good friend of mine in Holland.
If people offer him more, can't you read his appreciation for it between the lines? Go, Ramon, Go! PS: If those people are so bothered by Ramon's writing, why do they keep coming back here all the time? Just to create discussions? For them I'd really say: GET A LIFE yourself!
Name: Ramon Stoppelenburg Country: Galway, Ireland Sent: 7.47 PM - 7/4 2001 Please don't use this messageboard to provoke other people's culture, just reply on my writings, correct me if I'm wrong. We don't need to take politics this far. Got to go, I just voluntered to do some dishes here.
Go placidly amid the noise and haste, And remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly & clearly; and listen to others, even the dull & ignorant; they too have their story. Avoid loud & aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain & bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing future of time. Exercise caution in your business affairs; for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals; and everywhere life is full of heroism. Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection.
Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue & loneliness. Beyond wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees & the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labours & aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul. With all its sham, drudgery & broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy. ~ Max Ehrmann, 1927 ~
Name: Pat Country: UK Sent: 7.35 PM - 7/4 2001 Paricia - that is quite strong stuff you accuse Ramon of. Now, do you really know he hasn't offered to wash the dishes? It might be true, and it appears to be the case, that Ramon has been overwhelmed and seduced by all the media attention. This is perfectly normal - it's hard to resist the full-on star treatment he has been given: ie, limos to and from the studio, adulation from the presenter and audience, free meals at top restaurants, etc. I guess that the grim reality of then hanging around with ordinary people getting drunk on a Saturday night would seem a bit tedious and annoying. However, everybody - even those who proclaim to have the toughest skin - is sensitive, and the criticism that Ramon is getting now in Ireland must be shocking and embarrasing. The whole world is basically reading how he supposedly "insulted" his hosts. I'm sure he would like to turn back the clock. Can't we find it within us to forgive him? Or is he our own "personal Jesus"...to be crucified for his outspokeness and honesty? I also seen as one who is embittered with my own country, ie, Ireland because I dare to speak out the failings I find within it. Failings such as: for such a spiritual and Catholic country, it seems few people have the desire to show compassion and forgiveness. I just called it small-town minds. And it's that very reason that I'm so glad that I live in Britain. Frankly, the mentality of the place would send me crazy. Don't worry Ramon - you are only human. It seems that this is a sin in many peoples' eyes. P.
Name: Paricia Fagan Country: USA Sent: 7.01 PM - 7/4 2001 Ramon's true personality becomes more apparent with each report. If he's not catered to and pampered he insults his hosts. Hosts, has he ever offered to help wash the dishes? I think not, since he is still in bed until 1pm unless he has a media interview. Please, keep Ramon in Europe
You've got a very good idea
Name: Fiona (neglectful host NOT!) Country: Ireland Sent: 4.59 PM - 7/4 2001 Already there, told me I don't have a problem and said not to waste their time!! Seems I have too much energy from all the travelling with my job! Anyway, on to bigger and better things and people. Until we never meet again Fiona
Name: toni Country: stray scot in ireland Sent: 2.17 PM - 7/4 2001 hey there, glad ramon reasserted his take on irish drinking habits. it was lovely to meet him even if he didn't want to go rockclimbing with me & on i'd like to add that when i arrived in Douglas a wee while ago, Niamh & Fiona were the first two people who "adopted" me & dragged me out to enjoy the sites of southern ireland (and i'm not particularly high profile in the media). I later met deirdre in the pub too & i'd say the only problem i had was the state of my ribs after them making me laugh all night. Being of a celtic nature myself, alcohol consumption was not a problem & i'm sure that if ramon was to stay here, with time he'd be able to keep up with the girlies. Next time we see you mate i expect you'll be drinking us under the table! It's just like anything in this world, if you want to get better, you just have to keep practising! cheers luv Toni
Name: Pat Country: UK Sent: 8.48 AM - 7/4 2001 To Dave (Ireland) Fair point - I did think I was discussing wider issues on the strength of what Ramon experienced on a local level in the country. Enough is enough, though... Pat
Name: Thom Country: Netherlands Sent: 8.46 AM - 7/4 2001 To all insulted people. 1) Ramon did apoligize. 2) It is very easy to misinterpret printed text, 'cause you don't see the expression of one's face, you cannot hear the subtleties in one's voice. Two things which help you in understanding what another means. And that's the problem with printed text: you can read a text in many different ways. Furthermore, English is not Ramon's native language so he does not know the nuances of the English language to fully express himself in a correct way. He was tired, wrote a little uncarefully about that & upset some people. After that he apologized for that, and since the Irish are great (Dutch & Irish football fans get along perfectly!) I know they can accept his apologies. So please, end this discussion and have fun. Cheers.
Name: L.S.O.M. Country: Malaysia Sent: 8.29 AM - 7/4 2001 Ramon,
David Letterman - you are a celebrity yourself Be a model celebrity. Forget the negative comments. We are learning all the time. Welcome to Malaysia.
Name: Melinda Country: USA Sent: 9.45 PM - 7/3 2001 Ramon,
Country: USA Sent: 7.36 PM - 7/3 2001 TO EVERYONE OUT THERE WHO HASN’T READ RAMON’S JUNE 1 REPORT. HE DID APOLOGIZE.
Name: Pat Country: UK Sent: 7.33 PM - 7/3 2001 The real question I want Ramon to answer is... what does he think of a pint of Guinness and has he played the wild rover? Answers, please.
Name: simone Country: usa Sent: 7.08 PM - 7/3 2001 Hey Ramon - I'm almost sorry that you have a messageboard to hear our feedback. I'd like to hear what you are experiencing on your travels without you feeling that you need to "edit" your thoughts in case you offend someone - or apologize for your feelings. Sometimes you have a bad day. People have to realize that that was how you felt that day and not take it so personally. My journals are filled with complaints. Write your truth! Don't let other people's comments enter your head. That's my two cents....thanks for taking us along this journey with you.
My gosh! What is wrong with everyone? A July 30 report has put you all into a fighting frenzy. Are all Irish people this hot-tempered? Or is it just the ones that are writing nasty messages here. See what alcohol can do to people’s brains? I found nothing offensive about Ramon’s report. And I read it twice. But I do find offensive what everyone (mostly Irish) are writing on this message board. To me it didn’t seem like Ramon was criticizing Ireland and all it’s people. He was just describing an uncomfortable predicament he found himself in one night. As for the person who said “if in Rome do as the Romans”? Nonsense! I wouldn’t participate in the yearly Bull Runs in Spain and get my ass sliced. I wouldn’t dive off a 5,000 foot clift in Hawaii either, just because everyone there does it? Travelers don’t have to do everything other people do just to be on good terms. And host shouldn’t expect for their guest to do so either. Do these gals represent Ireland entirely? I am seeing beautiful pictures of Ireland on Ramon’s report. Ireland is a very beautiful country. Don’t spoil the beauty of your country by bad mouthing everyone, including other guest on this message board. I think all those proud Patriotic Irish have said enough on here. It’s beginning to get a bit boring. So change the subject please.
Name: Journo Jim Country: Dublin, Ireland Sent: 3.23 PM - 7/3 2001 Pat - nice to see you've rehabilitated your roots. G'wan yeh good t'ing. Ramon - what's the chance of seeing an occasional round-up of the best of your experiences? I appreciate that it's extra work, but you could give us a page a month, or even a page per country on what YOU found best about the place. People'd appreciate it a lot, I think. You'd be able to recommend the best of a country based on your experiences to the whole world. It'd be more real than a guidebook, that's for sure. so what do you say?
Name: Pat Country: UK Sent: 3.07 PM - 7/3 2001 oh - Danny Boy.... Ramon - spoken like a true President...of the Globe?! I guess the Irish message, as put forward by famous Celtic band Oasis,is...You Got to Roll With It. A lot of people say that the Irish and the Italians are very similar: arguing one minute, best mates the next. Passionate about life. May you enjoy the rest of your stay in Ireland. It will get into you - it will change you. And if do manage to stay sober - well done! But always manage to keep smiling. May the road rise with you, Pat
Name: Ramon Stoppelenburg Country: Currently in Ireland Sent: 2.23 PM - 7/3 2001 Hereby I will like to give a brief statement to explain a few things to my fans and critics: - Firstly, I am writing all my communications in English, which is not my native language and therefore open, on occasion, to miss-interpretation.
- Second of all, the spirit of this project is one of global participation on a goodwill basis and should never drift into areas of cultural or individual criticism. So far, as you would appreciate, this has been a huge learning experience as it is with all the media attention and I hope not to loose sight of the primary goal, to visit the world. I rely on you, my Internet audience, to keep me on track and correct me if I go wrong. Thank you for your support and I hope you’ll keep on following my journey around the planet. Ramon.
Name: Rebecca Country: Ireland Sent: 2.02 PM - 7/3 2001 I think your all making a huge deal about last Saturday night. We all know how much travelling zaps your energy and we've all been in the same situtation as Ramon at one time or another. Personally I would have looked after my guest, not by showing him a good time but by respecting his wishes and going home. Ramon you should slow down or you won't be able to carry on much longer, be firm with your hosts, they all want to show you a good time and may be inclined to forget that you've been travelling for a long time and would enjoy taking it easy for a while. May I also say that I've just returned from the UK where I noticed "binge drinking" seems to be a lot more popular than here in Ireland, so less of the stereotypes please. Good luck Ramon, I hope you get to enjoy Ireland for what it really is, I would recomend that you don't post you diary messages when hung over as there seems to be a lot of over sensitive people out there!
Name: Dave Country: UK Sent: 1.57 PM - 7/3 2001 Linda and Fiona , I can only say , what an awful way to be treated .I have always been treated with the utmost respect when I have visited Ireland, and yes you have troubles , but it seems that despite these you were willing to go out of your way and LETHIMSTAYFORADAY? OR TWO! By the way - I am tee-total and this was never a problem to me! To you RAMON: perhaps you ought to learn to be a little humble, altho I think that all these messages will simply be wiped off ( as soon as he wakes up , that is!) I wonder how RAMON will take this criticism ?? However it's never too late to change!-and it did cross my mind that maybe he could have had a bit of sunstroke -being in the sun for three hours on the train?This mixed with alcohol maybe would not have helped- I dont know, but I think we should give him another chance to redeem himself!
Name: Pat Country: UK Sent: 12.25 PM - 7/3 2001 Can we just agree what the real root of this "problem" was last Saturday? I'd say it was alcohol. Ramon was hungover and feeling tired and a bit moody (alcohol can make one depressed the next day). He knows now he shouldn't have drunk again. He has now decided to steer clear of the drink for the rest of stay. That's sensible, clever and wise. He's even apologised for ruffling a few feathers. What more can he do? What I don't like is what I'm now seeing - a general desire for him to give up and go home. I do kind of get the feeling that a lot of people would love to see Ramon fall flat on his face. That it would be a bit of a "craic". Yeah, right....get real. As Dublin Jim says - let's have a bit of forgiveness, a lot of forgetfulness and a whole load of positivity.
Name: five of us Country: USA Sent: 12.10 PM - 7/3 2001 RAMON, we think, having looked at all the messages on the board and ALL your "REPORTS" that yes, you have indeed had a good idea, but we think that somewhere along the way you have have created a lot of heartache in your words, not good story line, eh? You got a lot of messages WRONG , then writing about them , and this must make the people feel really bad, when they have no need to!They have gone out of their way for you . You got mixed up in some of the places you were supposed to go , making that person feel as tho it were her fault!It was in fact yours!! now your in Ireland , and stirring up a real hornets nest ! Forcing people to come to your defence .Like Jim , below -its getting political. Basically we think perhaps we agree you SHOULD GO BACK HOME-NOW
Name: Jim Country: Dublin, Ireland Sent: 12.09 PM - 7/3 2001 Yeah, the fasionistas are on the prowl in Dublin, that's for sure. But I make a point of never letting the muppets stop me from having a good time. That's why Ramon and I ended up in the Olympia theatre - it's oldskool, soulful, relaxed and honest like you say. There's still some of it about, but it's in as short supply in Ireland as it is anywhere else. I think it's time to hear the positives. I'm keen to know from Ramon where he's had the best fun, where was the most relaxing place, where the prettiest girls were, where did he get the best night's sleep, who was his most fascinating host, the most interesting place he visited, all of that. What about it, big fella? How about a little best of the month column, or are you saving all of those revelations up until the end of your big adventure? To Pat and everyone, peace and love to ya.
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