The Barrel of a Pen Rebuttal One: Scalping the Pusllaminous Internet Separatists By Justice Muluh Mbuh



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Rebuttal One: Scalping the Pusllaminous Internet Separatists

By Justice Muluh Mbuh
Netters, Brethrens,

If there is any evidence that the Diplomacy Task Force needed to cement its stance on many issues surrounding the case of Ambazonia (Southern Cameroons), I think Miss Kinang Evelyne Joe just provided that to us. Basically, and from historic orientation view points, she has sided with our Cameroun oppressors, cured us and abused our very despondence as well as our intellect, all for the crime that her maternal folks have committed on our people. Her ignorance of facts of our history and rights that make us distinct from Cameroun apart, I just hope when the day of reckoning comes, Evelyne and the entire Kinang Family in K-Town will know where to run! I decided to select some of her misconception to expose how her reasoning falls short of understanding conflicts of the magnitude of that of Southern Cameroons, to say little of her summative denials in the face of reality. In addition she makes sterile comparative analyses of Anglophone and Francophone Cameroun and even drags in the case of Ivory Coast, for instance.

Debunking such fallacious reasoning is one aspect of my response, while at the same time, I intend to educate the likes of Miss Kinang on her misconception and misperceptions, a thing for which, I am sure she knows I am an expert, regardless of how she may term us, the Anglo Netters in America! Her reasoning along with its threats is perhaps instructed by highly placed quarters in the La Republique du Cameroun regime which her article does serve. Here are some of the misstatements which beg for clarification from us in MsJoe's posting. I hope the reader bears with me my bluntness:

1. My position on socioeconomic justice and equity regardless of language or province of origin in Cameroon is unequivocal. I can, and will, oppose anything that divides Cameroonians along colonial language lines. It is not personal; it is principled.-MsJoe

Socioeconomic justice and equity as part of the whole package of Ambazonia grievances do not fall short of redress from the Cameroun government, do they? Could MsJoe tell us how Cameroun's government attempted to redress this aspect of our complaints? Could she say just why after such genocidal tendencies, from one dictator to another, we ought to listen to her tirades? Of course she has every right, as beneficiary of the denial of the UN and the sellers of our territory to the "Highest bidder" to "oppose anything that divides Cameroonians along language lines," principled or not! Her lack of understanding on international conflict, as well as her support of the Cameroun government’s behavior in international circles give us reason to believe they are the ones being hypocritical here: No one has reduced and should reduce our struggle to that of simply attempts at dividing Cameroon on language lines! Just where did she get that from?



2. Where the Report advocates civic stake-holdership in spite of differences in ideology or orientation; the AngloNetter fans civic chaos and disintegration.

Our grievances against Cameroun are not and will never be based on how the UNDP, SDF or even the British Government's Visiting Mission reports on the matter, but how we have conceptualized it, based on our understanding of our international and human rights, distinct from those of Cameroun Republic which attained separate independence on January 1, 1960 without Ambazonia (Southern Cameroons) being part of their country! Thus if Ms Kinang Evelyn Joe wants to understand our grievances against Cameroun and the rest of the international community, the basic premise where should start is where Cameroun had separate independence from Ambazonia, not from some UNDP or British government cover-up report which continue to serve misconceptional tendencies about our demise!

3. Mr. Wanuku, once more, you are putting the nose of a camel in a tent. Your choice of quotation is misapplied. Sure, you all can call your self Munchi people or Anglo-Saxons as your rightful identity. Louis Farrakhan once opined that African American felons should be given a country in Africa - or one should be craved and carved -- where they can rehabilitate culturally intact and be more useful in their natural place. So there is nothing new in these identity preferences. I support Mbororo culture in Cameroon and elsewhere; just as Native Indian American tribes in the US. Mbororo people must be allowed to rear the cattle and assimilate as they wish, or not for that matter, as long as they do not walk naked according to law and order. But the right of any group to self express does not come with sovereign parcels of land. Certainly, the UN does not imply that people should be given separate territories once they declare or assume an identity. Nothing in the UNDP Report approaches such maniac absurdity.

MsJoe, nothing conforms to the charge that you fail to understand the so-called Anglophone grievances against Cameroun than the excerpt above. Here you totally failed to discern the truths or defend them. No one ever said UN gives territories once people assume a new identity. That you attempt to reduce the Anglophone struggle to simple assumption of new identity is exactly what is most absurd about your reasoning, not Wanaku's! For how long you and Cameroun authorities will be in this denial beats my imagination! And it is a shame that you claim to work for Pan-African Union without understanding the simple principles that lead to togetherness, least of greater magnitude! Without the Anglo-Saxon superior reasoning in the displays of Public policy and governance, you will not be in America, least flirting with English language, would you? I guess this is just part and parcel of your whole package of Cameroun-sponsored denials here!



4. By the way, I am tickled pink by the sheer ignorance that reigns supreme in the AngloNetter float where people just practice Yahooism. Mr. Wanuku, the dire truth of the matter is that in the United States there is no AngloNetter who has demonstrated what it takes to usher a movement from the threshold of current stupidities. None has the combined force of intellect, political connection and savoir-faire, and the public personality/presence. You need all three for ignition. The engine is stalled and they sit in America, write on the Internet and fool people in Cameroon that there is traction while meeting and influencing White people to the English cause. Foul and Foolish.

On the contrary, "sheer ignorance that reigns supreme" reigns more in your entire posting, which even deliberately deprives us of what Wanaku wrote to you, as a design rather than a simple mistake!

5. The sovereignty was imagined by youths for adult transactions. Somehow, Mr. Nformi, an adult in a Cabinet portfolio, now has laminated identity cards he professes to process through some official UN / US channels. Me too, I used to play with decorated doll babies and actually believed the presents on Christmas Day under the tree was brought by Father Christmas at midnight; not our housekeeper who dressed in naughty clothing, sneaked in and out just in time, and made the required noises to heighten our fantasies. Get real.

Evelyn, lets talk like old pals who used to ride an old Acura. Tell me, please tell us, what if... a thousand times, this "Anglo" struggle becomes a reality? You know someone once attempted accusing Ambazonia Republic as basing our new name from Ambas Bay which means "Land of Cannibals" and was shocked to the extent he went mute forever, when on the contrary we got the real meaning of Ambas in seven languages for him--all referring to fertile soils? Just what will you do should this struggle comes a reality next month? Run for Parliament from K-Town to win then enter Parliament and tell our people you want us to return to Cameroun? I am not a cannibal, but I will most certainly try your flesh "meat"!



6. I think you should advise your people to stop these shenanigans. The Anglo movement from America has no access or influence. Francophones also get political asylum by swearing to Pledge to Fight, if need be, To Defend, Sacrifice, Serve the Fatherland Southern Cameroons Under the banner of SCNC, For the emergence of a Free and Sovereign Southern Cameroons, Where Justice, Unity and Democracy Are Guiding Virtues. There is no monopoly on the card ownership. I can ask Russians to print some and dare anybody to challenge my audacity in the market sales of cards at discount or no fee.

"The Anglo movement from America has no access or influence." Evelyn, are you starved of info or begging to know? How wrong could you ever be? I will assure you that no amount of Cameroun sponsored corruption in America, no amount of their attempts to use some of you against us will stop that access or influence as you stated. Unfortunately, with the corrupted mentality that Camerounians have, that is all they can do, attempt corrupting! Unfortunately, we have schooled in our liberation and folks like you making such empty noises know no clue what you are talking about, except attempt gaining access, wrongly by supporting failed ideologies like Pan-Africanism. I will not be surprised if you suddenly joined some American Communist to try turning Capital/Market in Command. You bet the Russians themselves will laugh at you! For Russia herself is seeking a way out of such failed ideologies! Tell us some more about hiring them for more fraud-prone policies!

7. My opponents can only write utter rubbish and theoretical jamboree. For example, let the AngloNetters send a letter to the Congressional Black Caucus. I will make the idea in that letter toast and roast. What bona fide black person will promote aid and abet schisms in Africa because of colonial history?

"My opponents can only write utter rubbish and theoretical jamboree." How mistaken, and how hypocritical can you ever be?

Perhaps when the day of freedom is done, you shall once again school in our grievances to understand real rubbish in your responses. Ever wonder why no one dared respond to you? Trust me, they, liberationist all know that only I can dare attempt rescuing you from the feebleness of your Pan-Camerounian, pan-African mentality, while you all failed to listen to us four years ago, when Ngang and myself, thanks to your propaganda were thrown out of Africa Daily for citing Sudan as a future calamity! And what is the response of Pan everything peoples? Nothing! They are depending on international transcontinental assistance! Is that not shameful, when an old Ahidjo Green Revolution Cameroon, if united and strong could have been able to feed all of Sudan and the now starving Kenyans? You most certainly amuse us with your theory of rubbish and theoretical jamboree! Be in denial as long as you want. We, the experts on the ground will always tell you the future and no matter how you and Cameroun work to misrepresent truths, it will all come to pass, like Sudan now in the news! See how Pan-Africanism is now mute, and tongue tide? I guess you don't even see it, do you?

8. AngloNetters are prone to talk about Dr. Bland. Heck, Dr. Bland knew me in the public arena. In that public arena that I organized, the UN representatives and interest groups were there. Of recent, when Chief Alex Taku wanted to introduce me to Dr. Bland, once I called my name, Dr. Bland told me who I am over the phone. I asked Dr. Bland about his involvement with the SCNC. He was basically economic oriented about resources, marginalization, and believed Francophones have a higher standard of living. It was like the Ogoni people fighting Shell and Texaco in Niger Delta, Nigeria. That amounts to socioeconomic equity; not liberation. What liberation -- if there is no unique identity that binds Southwest and Northwest when English is removed? And that is increasingly removed with the new generation of Cameroonians to whom language and social interactions are not constraints. Primitivity and inferiority complex are self imposed for self cure.They are not public affairs.

Not all has been bad Eve! Here you scored, big time and that is one of the grievances we had against the Rt. Justice ANT Mbu-led New Ambazonia conceptualizations for which he fired me and countered in 2002! But not too much credit though--for again your reductionism is completely off the mark! The Ogoni or even Biafrans have never constituted a separate territory with internationally recognized boundaries as Ambazonians (Southern Cameroonians) against Cameroun! To say less of international treaties and UN Resolutions! We have all that and that is why when you attempt denigrating our cause, it is not only vexing but is equally making you look real foolish!That is again where you misfired, badly!



9. You see, the AngloNetter does not really want pragmatic solutions that would devoid them of emotional agitation. We are yet to see the statistics that show the average Francophone in better social, economic and political echelons. The ails and beset Cameroon are not inspired by Francophones versus Anglophones and the solutions are not demarcated boundaries. Cameroonians across tribal and language lines need to work together to build a sustainable and free society.

"pragmatic solutions that would devoid them of emotional agitation."?

On the contrary, MsJoe, it is you and the Cameroun government who would be held responsible for any escalation--for pretending you do not understand our demands and for insulting our indulgence and intellect! You seem to forget that Fon Dinka who started this struggle was jailed, yet Biya did make amendments to the law which created La Republique du Cameroun which made him an illegal president who imposed himself on Camerounians by seceding from the union of two equal states. You also forget that Fon Dinka was called all sort of names and branded as crazy and a blood drinker? Now we have Ebong, Nfor, Ayamba, Yongbang, Akwanga and many more speaking the same language and Cameroun Republic is still tied in the same old little corner of denial and denigration, utilizing shameless women like you to debase a cause with resounded evidence of material breach of international treaty? Just where have we faulted your imagination?

10. Where is the comparison? The Ivory Coast insurgents do not want a new country, they want to be Ivorians and capture all of Ivory Coast if not. If the Separatists are hoping that they would be invited to Etoudi for talks and rights.... that is fat chance. The slick Biya instead wants everyone to be a voting Cameroonian and even gives monies for more people to presidential candidates or confusionists.

Here is again one of those instances where you claim authority on things you don't know or understand. You have justified the Anglo-or Ambazonia cause against Cameroun rather than debase it in your comparison. I truly don't get the picture you are trying to paint with the response above. But I will say to you that the Ivorians have asked a separate country. Yes, they did and it is simply because they want more power, thanks to their French Government sponsors that they want control of all of Ivory Coast! Besides, they have little or absolutely no grounds for claiming another country, as much as Biafra did. Yet you fail to see he parameters that make the Southern Cameroons or Ambazonia claims more valid? You are a liar! Whose interest are you serving with such dishonesty?

11. Talk about fighting. If one known idiot out of three Internet patients touting war cannot help but masturbate at the sight of a disinterested women, that is one-third rate of effeminate men in the prospective field Marshalls. Then, how can they fight other real men? Small wonder how semi boys will advocate bloodshed when they piss in front of mere women and loose their minds thereafter. There would one kind of a hostage crisis seized by La Republique armies and mesmerized by Mvogatanganabala women. When you see a man writing on the Internet without a public focus and hang on private lives, he has a psychological hangover; not liberation matters. Therefore, the war would be lopsided.

We wonder what you are talking about here... Could you be clear and name names of our generals who masturbate in the sight of a disinterested woman? What was the woman doing where and when? And again, what if your concept of real men and real women, no matter how disinterested they may be ends up being totally wrong? We know a disinterested woman when we meet one--they will not stand by the roadside attempt to beg or actually begging for rides; they will not attempt imposing themselves on men or visit and become come no gos.. etc. On the contrary, a real man stands up to adversity of all sort and will walk when the going permits for alternative, dissuasive measures. On the whole, such abuses as you charge our would be generals do not amount to a thing since your basic understanding of the "Anglophone" is shrouded in denials and attempts at playing academic gymnastic where you are lest equipped!

Lets get real, indeed as well as in need!

12. If the grown-ups and respectable persons like Dr. Anyangwe, Dr. Yongbang, Emil Mondoa and articulate advocates like Ntemfac Ofege have allowed these demi men and virtual rascals to run loose in America and smear the public face of whatever the Cameroon Anglophone Movement was about, I guess the Movement has seen its better days.

"demi men and virtual rascals to run loose in America and smear the public face of whatever the Cameroon Anglophone Movement was about"? Viola! You just provided the basic ingredient for regarding your posting as an Cameroun sponsored attempt at reductionism and denialism in the face of reality! Your theory of demi-men granted! You may be a woman of fame or of success who is happily married and had no previous dating games mishaps--who cares? In Nigeria we once said that is your wahala! But getting down to business, by reducing and attempting to take us back in time when Cameroon Anglophone Movement was created to distract from the Ambazonia pursuit, only shows how determined a devil you are to misrepresent the peoples of erstwhile Southern Cameroons and deny them their rights to internationally recognized state of affairs. Again time will tell who will fail. If our struggle were to be determined by a bunch of sick men and women, we would ever have remained this calm and peaceful this long, would we? On the contrary, little disputes in Africa have escalated into armed conflicts with untold sufferings and here you are insulting us simply because some foolish Anglophone parent flirted with a Bassa woman and took her in for a wife to bear you? How much more insults can we take from you Evelyn? To be honest with you, should the next few weeks prove to be escalatory in nature, you and only you will bear full responsibility for insulting the Anglophone soldiers. Belief me, you don't know how much these insults have sank in and the effects they will produce. I for one never ever sanctioned arms and war as a way forward. Now I will give total blessing to anyone who bears arms, just to make sure some misplaced reasoning mis-intellectual get the real picture and maybe learn a lesson or two on where to talk and what to say when and how! You made my day and from now SOCADEF has my blessings to carry on an armed struggle against Cameroun! Justice M. Mbuh!

13. The AngloNetters in America pose as much concern as gadflies of no discernible consequence. They are wasting their time.--Evelyn Joe Kinang!

Thank you Eve! Time alone will tell. By the way, being the propagandist that I am, being one of the dedicated "First Knights" of Ambazonia Republic (Southern Cameroons), the response and your posting will be used as a propaganda tool in all quarters of our struggle! You gave me one more supporting evidence I long wished for! You woke me up from slumber and now I take responsibility for sanctioning

SOCADEF/JETFORCE: YOU HAVE YOUR ORDERS AND MY SUPPORT!! HOW MUCH MORE CAN A PEOPLE ENDURE? HOW MUCH MORE CAN A MAN CARRY: "WHAT ARE COME TO A MAN ARE EQUAL TO WHAT A MAN CAN CARRY!" REMEMBER?

Justice M. Mbuh


Hello Mr. Wanuku: Something tells me you are an honest person searching for meanings/solutions but otherwise sincerely uninformed about the intricacies of fine prints in public affairs. The excerpts from the UNDP Report that you quoted has nothing to do with the sort of nurtured, convenient identity crisis the Anglophone movement is enraptured by. Rather, the UNDP Report is versed within the context of a pluralistic society and in acknowledgment of the diversity in its societal complex. Citizens and occupants in this framework seek to be included to enjoy the same civil liberties in common spheres without fear of being denied these benefits because of their identities/orientations, which could be creed, gender, race, ethnicity. Subtracting the Southern parts of Africa...we do not have gay and transgender identities yet. These tolerant expectations not only encourage a steady stream of diverse resources for vibrant community building, they also correlate with the principle of democracy. My position on socioeconomic justice and equity regardless of language or province of origin in Cameroon is unequivocal. I can, and will, oppose anything that divides Cameroonians along colonial language lines. It is not personal; it is principled. The AngloNetter's quasi movement and mentality stand in sharp contrast with the spirit, letter and latent intent of the UNDP Report. The Report promotes inclusion in a diverse community; the AngloNetter touts distinct separation because of real, perceived and concocted differences. Where the Report advocates civic stake-holdership in spite of differences in ideology or orientation; the AngloNetter fans civic chaos and disintegration. Mr. Wanuku, once more, you are putting the nose of a camel in a tent. Your choice of quotation is misapplied. Sure, you all can call your self Munchi people or Anglo-Saxons as your rightful identity. Louis Farrakhan once opined that African American felons should be given a country in Africa - or one should be craved and carved -- where they can rehabilitate culturally intact and be more useful in their natural place. So there is nothing new in these identity preferences. I support Mbororo culture in Cameroon and elsewhere; just as Native Indian American tribes in the US. Mbororo people must be allowed to rear the cattle and assimilate as they wish, or not for that matter, as long as they do not walk naked according to law and order. But the right of any group to self express does not come with sovereign parcels of land. Certainly, the UN does not imply that people should be given separate territories once they declare or assume an identity. Nothing in the UNDP Report approaches such maniac absurdity. By the way, I am tickled pink by the sheer ignorance that reigns supreme in the AngloNetter float where people just practice Yahooism. Mr. Wanuku, the dire truth of the matter is that in the United States there is no AngloNetter who has demonstrated what it takes to usher a movement from the threshold of current stupidities. None has the combined force of intellect, political connection and savoir-faire, and the public personality/presence. You need all three for ignition. The engine is stalled and they sit in America, write on the Internet and fool people in Cameroon that there is traction while meeting and influencing White people to the English cause. Foul and Foolish. The comedy takes added dimension when the leaders from Cameroon arrive. For example, Mr. Nfor Nfor found it very important to "meet" with members of the Congressional Black Caucus. He even bypassed the declaration of the New Southern Cameroons or Anglophone Democratic Republic from Minnesota, USA. The sovereignty was imagined by youths for adult transactions. Somehow, Mr. Nformi, an adult in a Cabinet portfolio, now has laminated identity cards he professes to process through some official UN / US channels. Me too, I used to play with decorated doll babies and actually believed the presents on Christmas Day under the tree was brought by Father Christmas at midnight; not our housekeeper who dressed in naughty clothing, sneaked in and out just in time, and made the required noises to heighten our fantasies. Get real. Yes, if you pay the fee you will attend a fair, fashion show or gala during the Congressional Black Caucus legislative weekend. You may get generic "Thank You Notes." There are also free functions. But that is not "meeting" with members of the caucus. Just like it was once said that perennial presidential candidate Ni Fru Ndi had an audience with Bill Clinton at the White House. No such thing could have happened. Pictures were taken with Clinton's large sized card board picture in downtown Washington and Ni could have been at a fundraiser where Clinton spoke. To "meet with someone or write to someone" means you had access, mutual dialogue, specifically presented your cause for possible action, and feedback. I think you should advise your people to stop these shenanigans. The Anglo movement from America has no access or influence. Francophones also get political asylum by swearing to Pledge to Fight, if need be, To Defend, Sacrifice, Serve the Fatherland Southern Cameroons Under the banner of SCNC, For the emergence of a Free and Sovereign Southern Cameroons, Where Justice, Unity and Democracy Are Guiding Virtues. There is no monopoly on the card ownership. I can ask Russians to print some and dare anybody to challenge my audacity in the market sales of cards at discount or no fee. Some AngloNetters say they wrote to Kofi Annan to threaten war and when war comes, they will refuse humanitarian food. If the alternative of a separate country is off the table, how does a threat work? These primitive propagandists are still pinching themselves that they are in America and plush when the flush water system toilet or what? Mr. Wanuku, if you want to be meaningful, start doing something to that effect. My opponents can only write utter rubbish and theoretical jamboree. For example, let the AngloNetters send a letter to the Congressional Black Caucus. I will make the idea in that letter toast and roast. What bona fide black person will promote aid and abet schisms in Africa because of colonial history? You quoted that commie Mayor Ken Red and co. of London. O yeah, he can have a commonwealth carriage to ferry out co-linguists. But this imperialistic nostalgia couched in paternal fervor is a passion with no flame. Britain will dare not intervene in Cameroon with some cockamamie about Anglophone / Francophone. All will hinge and stop at the door of democracy; not independence or referendum for Anglophone. Think otherwise and happy delirium. AngloNetters are prone to talk about Dr. Bland. Heck, Dr. Bland knew me in the public arena. In that public arena that I organized, the UN representatives and interest groups were there. Of recent, when Chief Alex Taku wanted to introduce me to Dr. Bland, once I called my name, Dr. Bland told me who I am over the phone. I asked Dr. Bland about his involvement with the SCNC. He was basically economic oriented about resources, marginalization, and believed Francophones have a higher standard of living. It was like the Ogoni people fighting Shell and Texaco in Niger Delta, Nigeria. That amounts to socioeconomic equity; not liberation. What liberation -- if there is no unique identity that binds Southwest and Northwest when English is removed? And that is increasingly removed with the new generation of Cameroonians to whom language and social interactions are not constraints. Primitivity and inferiority complex are self imposed for self cure.They are not public affairs. You see, the AngloNetter does not really want pragmatic solutions that would devoid them of emotional agitation. We are yet to see the statistics that show the average Francophone in better social, economic and political echelons. The ails and beset Cameroon are not inspired by Francophones versus Anglophones and the solutions are not demarcated boundaries. Cameroonians across tribal and language lines need to work together to build a sustainable and free society. Some AngloNetters are writing about Ivory Coast as if they have insights or backbones. You cannot read newspapers and accounts and make informed analyses and parallels. By the way, Paul Biya is a whole lot more calculating than former president Guei and present president Gbagbo who inflamed the ill conceived "Ivorianess." Biya is in the mold of Humphrey Boigny that held the country together. That is why Cameroon is better off with Paul Biya if the alternative is any group that will entertain the divisive sentiments of the petty Anglophone terrors. The AngloNetters' comparisons fall flat because the "New Force" -- northern insurgents in Ivory Coast are fighting for inclusion, which is premised on voting and landownership rights. The northern ethnic Dioula Muslims are considered immigrants by the silly "Ivorianess," and the rebellion that began in 2002 was also fueled by the disqualification of presidential candidate Alassane Ouattara. Ouattara, a former prime Minster from the North, was barred based on allegations that he was an immigrant from Burkina Faso. He is supported by the Northern Muslims. If anything, the rabble rousing Anglos are kin to the exploitative polemic Guei who died by his own swords. Where is the comparison? The Ivory Coast insurgents do not want a new country, they want to be Ivorians and capture all of Ivory Coast if not. If the Separatists are hoping that they would be invited to Etoudi for talks and rights.... that is fat chance. The slick Biya instead wants everyone to be a voting Cameroonian and even gives monies for more people to presidential candidates or confusionists. Talk about fighting. If one known idiot out of three Internet patients touting war cannot help but masturbate at the sight of a disinterested women, that is one-third rate of effeminate men in the propesctive field Marshalls. Then, how can they fight other real men? Small wonder how semi boys will advocate bloodshed when they piss in front of mere women and loose their minds thereafter. There would one kind of a hostage crisis seized by La Republique armies and mesmerized by Mvogatanganabala women. When you see a man writing on the Internet without a public focus and hang on private lives, he has a psychological hangover; not liberation matters. Therefore, the war would be lopsided. If the grown-ups and respectable persons like Dr. Anyangwe, Dr. Yongbang, Emil Mondoa and articulate advocates like Ntemfac Ofege have allowed these demi men and virtual rascals to run loose in America and smear the public face of whatever the Cameroon Anglophone Movement was about, I guess the Movement has seen its better days. Now, Wanuku, I have better things to do and more inclined to deal with emotionally grounded peoples. The AngloNetters in America pose as much concern as gadflies of no discernible consequence. They are wasting their time. Blessings MsJoe

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