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++++Message 2021. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Sister Ignatia and St. Thomas
From: caseyosh . . . . . . . . . . . . 9/22/2004 10:00:00 AM
Re my previous post regarding Sr. Ignatia, to which James
responded as below... I have rediscovered the text wherein I saw a
alcoholic patients at St. Thomas Hospital, Akron, when they left the
facility.
It is in the book "Slaying the Dragon" by William L. White, in the
picture section following page 224.
Happy 24's, friends...
wrote:
> I am not certain this is what you are looking for, but there is a
picture of Sister Ignatia on page 186 of _DR. Bob and the Good
Oldtimers_ and on page 195 it states:
> 'Sister Ignatia gave each of her newly released patients a Sacred
Heart medallion, which she asked them to return before they took the
first drink. She would occasionally give out St. Christopher medals
as well, but she would tell the recipient not to drive too
fast. "He gets out after 50 miles an hour," she warned'
Hope that helps.
Jim
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++++Message 2022. . . . . . . . . . . . Big Book Printed
From: Tom Hickcox . . . . . . . . . . . . 9/21/2004 9:46:00 AM
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I am interested in the number of Big Books in each of the printings of the
First, Second, Third, and Fourth Editions.
Could someone point me towards the data?
Tommy in Baton Rouge
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++++Message 2023. . . . . . . . . . . . James Houck Article
From: Lash, William \(Bill\) . . . . . . . . . . . . 9/24/2004 6:00:00 AM
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So close yet so far. This James Houck article made the online issue of Time
magazine, but not the circulation copy in magazine stores. It can be found at
www.time.com:
TIME BONUS SECTION OCTOBER 2004: GENERATIONS
Living Recovery
A man who knew the founder of A.A. has had a 70year quest to help other
problem drinkers
By Melissa August/Towson
-From the Sep. 27, 2004 issue of TIME magazine
It was on a cold day in 1934 that James Houck hit bottom. Newly wedded and
living in Frederick, Md., he was getting drunk every weekend -- and sometimes
even during the week -- on home brew. He had recently been in a
drunken-driving accident in his employer's car, and his drinking had estranged
him from his wife Betty. "We were not married a month," Houck says, "before I
told her I was sorry I ever saw her." Houck had begun drinking early, at age
5, when he would sneak sips from his mother's bottle of dandelion wine, then
make up the difference with water. Although he grew up in the middle of
Prohibition, his drinking problem only got worse as the years passed.
On Dec. 11, a friend who thought Houck needed to make some changes took him to
a meeting at the local YMCA of the Oxford Group, an evangelical society
founded in Britain by Frank Buchman that was prominent in the 1920s. Houck was
immediately drawn to the group's teachings, which were based on four
principles: honesty, purity, unselfishness and love. He was especially moved
by the concept of "two-way" prayer: the group taught that if you spent quiet
time every day listening to God, he would provide guidance. You were also
encouraged to make restitution, to "put right what's wrong in your life," says
Houck.
It was at those Oxford Group meetings that Houck befriended Bill Wilson,
a.k.a. Bill W., a chronic drinker who would go on to co-found Alcoholics
Anonymous (A.A.) in 1939. Houck joined the Oxford Group and became sober on
Dec. 12, one day after Wilson did. Today, at 98, Houck is the only living
person to have attended Oxford Group meetings with Wilson, who died in 1971.
Houck remembers Wilson well, and after a 40-year career as an electrical
engineer and salesman, he has made it his mission to bring the Oxford Group's
teachings to a new generation of recovering alcoholics. In the early 1970s, he
started working with longshoremen on the Baltimore docks, and until recently,
he traveled every six weeks or so, giving talks to members of 12-step
programs, including A.A., around the country. Houck continues to provide
counsel to recovering addicts who telephone from around the world. He still
appears at meetings held within driving distance of his home in Towson, Md.,
and shares the inspirational story of his recovery and the early days of the
Oxford Group with out-of-town gatherings via teleconferencing.
Houck wants to restore the old methods the Oxford Group used, in particular
its spiritual aspects, which he believes are stronger and more effective than
the ones currently practiced in A.A. The principles of the group live on in
the Back to Basics organization, which follows a 12-step program similar to
that originally used by A.A. Houck has been trying to apply Back to Basics
techniques in federal and state prisons and is working directly with 300
prisoners in the Henrico County Jail East, in Richmond, Va.
Houck knows how much a group like this can mean to someone. After he decided
on Dec. 12, 1934, that he would never drink alcohol again, he made restitution
with his wife and others he had harmed. "I started telling my wife what kind
of a fellow I was," he says. "I did this for three nights to get all of the
garbage out. I wanted to be honest about everything in my life." He says his
wife was grateful for the talk and then understood his behavior. "Now we could
start our family and raise the children with the same guidelines. We had
family quiet time every day. That's the way we raised the whole family." Houck
lost his wife to cancer in 1988, but believes the lessons learned from the
Oxford Group gave him a life he had not been sure was possible. "A marriage
that wasn't supposed to last one year lasted 57 years."
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++++Message 2024. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Big Book Printed
From: Arthur Sheehan . . . . . . . . . . . . 9/24/2004 9:42:00 AM
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Hi Tommy
I gleaned the following from the final report of the 2002 General Service
Conference (pg 15).
Big Book distribution
1st edition - 300,000 copies were distributed from 1939 to 1955
2nd edition - 1,150,000 copies were distributed from 1955 to 1976
3rd edition - 19,550,000 copies were distributed from 1976 to 2002
In 2002, the Conference approved publication of the 4th edition Big Book.
More than 2,000,000 copies of the 4th edition have been distributed so far.
The price of the 4th edition was initially set at $5.00 as a special
introductory price.
It returned to its regular price this year.
Cheers
Arthur
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Hickcox
To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 9:46 AM
Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Big Book Printed
I am interested in the number of Big Books in each of the printings of the
First, Second, Third, and Fourth Editions.
Could someone point me towards the data?
Tommy in Baton Rouge
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++++Message 2025. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: James Houck Article
From: johnpine@comcast.net . . . . . . . . . . . . 9/24/2004 10:09:00 AM
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Has Houck ever been a member of A.A. or identified himself as a recovering
alcoholic in his talks? Thanks. John Pine, Richmond, VA
-------------- Original message --------------
So close yet so far. This James Houck article made the online issue of Time
magazine, but not the circulation copy in magazine stores. It can be found
at www.time.com:
TIME BONUS SECTION OCTOBER 2004: GENERATIONS
Living Recovery
A man who knew the founder of A.A. has had a 70year quest to help other
problem drinkers
By Melissa August/Towson
-From the Sep. 27, 2004 issue of TIME magazine
It was on a cold day in 1934 that James Houck hit bottom. Newly wedded and
living in Frederick, Md., he was getting drunk every weekend -- and
sometimes even during the week -- on home brew. He had recently been in a
drunken-driving accident in his employer's car, and his drinking had
estranged him from his wife Betty. "We were not married a month," Houck
says, "before I told her I was sorry I ever saw her." Houck had begun
drinking early, at age 5, when he would sneak sips from his mother's bottle
of dandelion wine, then make up the difference with water. Although he grew
up in the middle of Prohibition, his drinking problem only got worse as the
years passed.
On Dec. 11, a friend who thought Houck needed to make some changes took him
to a meeting at the local YMCA of the Oxford Group, an evangelical society
founded in Britain by Frank Buchman that was prominent in the 1920s. Houck
was immediately drawn to the group's teachings, which were based on four
principles: honesty, purity, unselfishness and love. He was especially moved
by the concept of "two-way" prayer: the group taught that if you spent quiet
time every day listening to God, he would provide guidance. You were also
encouraged to make restitution, to "put right what's wrong in your life,"
says Houck.
It was at those Oxford Group meetings that Houck befriended Bill Wilson,
a.k.a. Bill W., a chronic drinker who would go on to co-found Alcoholics
Anonymous (A.A.) in 1939. Houck joined the Oxford Group and became sober on
Dec. 12, one day after Wilson did. Today, at 98, Houck is the only living
person to have attended Oxford Group meetings with Wilson, who died in 1971.
Houck remembers Wilson well, and after a 40-year career as an electrical
engineer and salesman, he has made it his mission to bring the Oxford
Group's teachings to a new generation of recovering alcoholics. In the early
1970s, he started working with longshoremen on the Baltimore docks, and
until recently, he traveled every six weeks or so, giving talks to members
of 12-step programs, including A.A., around the country. Houck continues to
provide counsel to recovering addicts who telephone from around the world.
He still appears at meetings held within driving distance of his home in
Towson, Md., and shares the inspirational story of his recovery and the
early days of the Oxford Group with out-of-town gatherings via
teleconferencing.
Houck wants to restore the old methods the Oxford Group used, in particular
its spiritual aspects, which he believes are stronger and more effective
than the ones currently practiced in A.A. The principles of the group live
on in the Back to Basics organization, which follows a 12-step program
similar to that originally used by A.A. Houck has been trying to apply Back
to Basics techniques in federal and state prisons and is working directly
with 300 prisoners in the Henrico County Jail East, in Richmond, Va.
Houck knows how much a group like this can mean to someone. After he decided
on Dec. 12, 1934, that he would never drink alcohol again, he made
restitution with his wife and others he had harmed. "I started telling my
wife what kind of a fellow I was," he says. "I did this for three nights to
get all of the garbage out. I wanted to be honest about everything in my
life." He says his wife was grateful for the talk and then understood his
behavior. "Now we could start our family and raise the children with the
same guidelines. We had family quiet time every day. That's the way we
raised the whole family." Houck lost his wife to cancer in 1988, but
believes the lessons learned from the Oxford Group gave him a life he had
not been sure was possible. "A marriage that wasn't supposed to last one
year lasted 57 years."
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++++Message 2026. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Big Book Printed
From: wilfried antheunis . . . . . . . . . . . . 9/25/2004 3:30:00 PM
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Hi Tommy, I should have sent this earlier, was looking for more information
and someplace on my computer (or maybe on another one that crashed!) it is
there - printings and number of copies printed. But this relates to the first
and second edition. If I find more, I will post it.
ciao
wil
Printing History of the First Edition
*************************************
First Printing, April, 1939
Second Printing, March, 1941
Third Printing, June, 1942
Fourth Printing, March, 1943
Fifth Printing, January, 1944
Sixth Printing, June, 1944
Seventh Printing, January, 1945
Eighth Printing, February, 1945
Ninth Printing, January, 1946
Tenth Printing, August, 1946
Eleventh Printing, June 1947
Twelfth Printing, October, 1948
Thirteenth Printing, February, 1950
Fourteenth Printing, July, 1951
Alcoholics Anonymous Second Editions
Alcoholics Anonymous Second Edition, First Printing 1955, (28,000 Printed)
Alcoholics Anonymous Second Edition, Second Printing 1956, (23,000 Printed)
Alcoholics Anonymous Second Edition, Third Printing 1957, (21,000 Printed)
Alcoholics Anonymous Second Edition, Fourth Printing 1960, (20,000 Printed)
Alcoholics Anonymous Second Edition, Fifth Printing 1962, (Quantity printed
is unknown)
Alcoholics Anonymous Second Edition, Sixth Printing 1963, (Quantity printed
is unknown)
Alcoholics Anonymous Second Edition, Seventh Printing 1965, (Quantity
printed is unknown)
Alcoholics Anonymous Second Edition, Eighth Printing 1966, (Quantity printed
is unknown)
Alcoholics Anonymous Second Edition, Ninth Printing 1967, (Quantity printed
is unknown)
Alcoholics Anonymous Second Edition, Tenth Printing 1969, (Quantity printed
is unknown)
Alcoholics Anonymous Second Edition, Eleventh Printing 1970, (Quantity
printed is unknown)
Alcoholics Anonymous Second Edition, Thirteenth Printing 1972, (Quantity
printed is unknown)
Alcoholics Anonymous Second Edition, Fourteenth Printing 1973, (Total 1973
Printings 1,000,000)
Alcoholics Anonymous Second Edition, Fifteenth Printing 1973, (Total 1973
Printings 1,000,000)
Alcoholics Anonymous Second Edition, Sixteenth Printing 1974
----- Original Message -----
From: Arthur Sheehan
To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AAHistoryLovers] Big Book Printed
Hi Tommy
I gleaned the following from the final report of the 2002 General Service
Conference (pg 15).
Big Book distribution
1st edition - 300,000 copies were distributed from 1939 to 1955
2nd edition - 1,150,000 copies were distributed from 1955 to 1976
3rd edition - 19,550,000 copies were distributed from 1976 to 2002
In 2002, the Conference approved publication of the 4th edition Big Book.
More than 2,000,000 copies of the 4th edition have been distributed so far.
The price of the 4th edition was initially set at $5.00 as a special
introductory price.
It returned to its regular price this year.
Cheers
Arthur
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Hickcox
To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 9:46 AM
Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Big Book Printed
I am interested in the number of Big Books in each of the printings of the
First, Second, Third, and Fourth Editions.
Could someone point me towards the data?
Tommy in Baton Rouge
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++++Message 2027. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: James Houck Article
From: billherold1017@aol.com . . . . . . . . . . . . 9/25/2004 12:05:00 PM
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This is Bill H from Baltimore. I have been in the program 21 years and am
currently chairperson for Archives for Maryland General Service Archives.
I interviewed Mr. Houck about 2 months ago and he is quite a gentleman. He is
indeed sober however, it was not through AA nor has hever considered himself a
member of AA.
The purpose of the interview was to gain a better perspective on the
atmosphere that was present when AA was started. He met Bill and Fitz Mayo
(our southern friend) when they used to attend Oxford group meetings in
Frederick Md. Bill used to come down occasionally and visit Fits May and his
wife on the weekend at Fits's house just sout of annapolis.
Bill used to come into the meeting and ask if there were any drunks there.
Bill took the concepts from the oxford group and with the help of the original
members molded them into the 12 steps and the foundation of this program.
Fits Mayo was the son of a minister and along with his best friend Jim Burwell
helped start AA in Baltimore Philadelphia , Washington DC and Northern
Virginia. Fits and Jim were also in the middle of the big debate over God in
AA with Fitz leaning to chritisnity influence and jim leaning to no God
(Aetheist).
From my interview with Mr. Houck, he was never in AA nor a firm believer so
much as an admirer of the program. Hisa thouhgts and belief lie strictly in
the christian foundation of the Oxford movement.
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++++Message 2028. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: James Houck Article
From: Bernadette MacLeod . . . . . . . . . . . . 9/25/2004 5:47:00 PM
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I met James Houck at the Wilson House in East Dorset, Vermont at a seminar he
participated in and he told me he was never a member of AA.
Bernadette
----- Original Message -----
From: johnpine@comcast.net
To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [AAHistoryLovers] James Houck Article
Has Houck ever been a member of A.A. or identified himself as a recovering
alcoholic in his talks? Thanks. John Pine, Richmond, VA
-------------- Original message --------------
So close yet so far. This James Houck article made the online issue of
Time magazine, but not the circulation copy in magazine stores. It can be
found at www.time.com:
TIME BONUS SECTION OCTOBER 2004: GENERATIONS
Living Recovery
A man who knew the founder of A.A. has had a 70year quest to help other
problem drinkers
By Melissa August/Towson
-From the Sep. 27, 2004 issue of TIME magazine
It was on a cold day in 1934 that James Houck hit bottom. Newly wedded and
living in Frederick, Md., he was getting drunk every weekend -- and
sometimes even during the week -- on home brew. He had recently been in a
drunken-driving accident in his employer's car, and his drinking had
estranged him from his wife Betty. "We were not married a month," Houck
says, "before I told her I was sorry I ever saw her." Houck had begun
drinking early, at age 5, when he would sneak sips from his mother's
bottle of dandelion wine, then make up the difference with water. Although
he grew up in the middle of Prohibition, his drinking problem only got
worse as the years passed.
On Dec. 11, a friend who thought Houck needed to make some changes took
him to a meeting at the local YMCA of the Oxford Group, an evangelical
society founded in Britain by Frank Buchman that was prominent in the
1920s. Houck was immediately drawn to the group's teachings, which were
based on four principles: honesty, purity, unselfishness and love. He was
especially moved by the concept of "two-way" prayer: the group taught that
if you spent quiet time every day listening to God, he would provide
guidance. You were also encouraged to make restitution, to "put right
what's wrong in your life," says Houck.
It was at those Oxford Group meetings that Houck befriended Bill Wilson,
a.k.a. Bill W., a chronic drinker who would go on to co-found Alcoholics
Anonymous (A.A.) in 1939. Houck joined the Oxford Group and became sober
on Dec. 12, one day after Wilson did. Today, at 98, Houck is the only
living person to have attended Oxford Group meetings with Wilson, who died
in 1971.
Houck remembers Wilson well, and after a 40-year career as an electrical
engineer and salesman, he has made it his mission to bring the Oxford
Group's teachings to a new generation of recovering alcoholics. In the
early 1970s, he started working with longshoremen on the Baltimore docks,
and until recently, he traveled every six weeks or so, giving talks to
members of 12-step programs, including A.A., around the country. Houck
continues to provide counsel to recovering addicts who telephone from
around the world. He still appears at meetings held within driving
distance of his home in Towson, Md., and shares the inspirational story of
his recovery and the early days of the Oxford Group with out-of-town
gatherings via teleconferencing.
Houck wants to restore the old methods the Oxford Group used, in
particular its spiritual aspects, which he believes are stronger and more
effective than the ones currently practiced in A.A. The principles of the
group live on in the Back to Basics organization, which follows a 12-step
program similar to that originally used by A.A. Houck has been trying to
apply Back to Basics techniques in federal and state prisons and is
working directly with 300 prisoners in the Henrico County Jail East, in
Richmond, Va.
Houck knows how much a group like this can mean to someone. After he
decided on Dec. 12, 1934, that he would never drink alcohol again, he made
restitution with his wife and others he had harmed. "I started telling my
wife what kind of a fellow I was," he says. "I did this for three nights
to get all of the garbage out. I wanted to be honest about everything in
my life." He says his wife was grateful for the talk and then understood
his behavior. "Now we could start our family and raise the children with
the same guidelines. We had family quiet time every day. That's the way we
raised the whole family." Houck lost his wife to cancer in 1988, but
believes the lessons learned from the Oxford Group gave him a life he had
not been sure was possible. "A marriage that wasn't supposed to last one
year lasted 57 years."
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++++Message 2029. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Big Book Printed
From: jacqueline belgium . . . . . . . . . . . . 9/26/2004 1:50:00 AM
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Hi !
Thanks for the info re BB printings.
I would like to know how much copies of the BB have been printed in French !
Thanks.
Jacqueline - Brussels-Belgium
>From: "Arthur Sheehan"
>Reply-To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: [AAHistoryLovers] Big Book Printed
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:42:38 -0500
>
>Hi Tommy
>
>
>
>I gleaned the following from the final report of the 2002 General Service
>Conference (pg 15).
>
>Big Book distribution
>
>
>
>1st edition - 300,000 copies were distributed from 1939 to 1955
>
>2nd edition - 1,150,000 copies were distributed from 1955 to 1976
>
>3rd edition - 19,550,000 copies were distributed from 1976 to 2002
>
>
>
>In 2002, the Conference approved publication of the 4th edition Big Book.
>
>More than 2,000,000 copies of the 4th edition have been distributed so far.
>
>The price of the 4th edition was initially set at $5.00 as a special
>introductory price.
>
>It returned to its regular price this year.
>
>
>
>Cheers
>
>Arthur
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Hickcox
> To:
>AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 9:46 AM
> Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Big Book Printed
>
>
>
> I am interested in the number of Big Books in each of the printings of
>the
> First, Second, Third, and Fourth Editions.
>
> Could someone point me towards the data?
>
> Tommy in Baton Rouge
>
>
>
>
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