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Its funny Pat
Good try Ali

Zonker View Member Profile	Aug 2 2006, 04:28 PM Post #32
Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: 24-March 05 Member No.: 5347	The bullshit that Charter Cats (the builder) tried to fob off on them is unbelieveable. Their surveyor was Charles Kanter, a surveyor who has been doing multis for years. I think Kanter may have missed the big delam, but Charter Cats tries to pass the buck in every way imaginable. "Oh lightning probably caused the big never bond"... I think 2hulls, the big Florida multi dealer stopped selling these boats some years back due to construction issues. I've been aboard one and the construction was not very nice in the hidden areas.

THOR View Member Profile	Aug 2 2006, 05:01 PM Post #33
Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 414 Joined: 6-May 04 Member No.: 1952	there is no excuse for Kanter not to find that ... especially as he later amitted that he didnt like those cats ... go figure ....about getting the "best "surveyor in the industry ... I am not sure, but I might have been on their boat a couple years back at the annapolis show.... the guys from S.A. were like used car dealers of the worst kind ... trying desperate to get rid of their sjhow boat , which they just sailed over ...... Anyhow I diodnt like the boat and for sure not the folks who were trying to sell it to me.... The bumfuzzle guys have been more than accomodating to the builder .... the builder esclateted their little email back and forth until the bumfuzzled guys told him that they go public ...and more or less to fuck himself .... Thor

Sumner View Member Profile	Aug 3 2006, 12:12 AM Post #34
Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 20-March 06 From: Singapore Member No.: 10225	Great customer reference for Charter Cats. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Why did they excise Kanter's name from the e-mail exchange posted online?

THOR View Member Profile	Aug 3 2006, 03:35 AM Post #35
Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 414 Joined: 6-May 04 Member No.: 1952	probably cause they didnt want to embarass him publicy ...I thought they had his name up for a wjhile back than .... I am pretty sure he was the fellow who did the survey thor

And then of course there are tons of completely hilarious references. Some of my favorites came from this guy SteveP on the cs-bb forums. He was absolutely certain that we were posting on his site under aliases. Here are a couple that he wrote in response to some discussion about rock climbing that took place while we were motorcycling across Spain. There are some serious nutcases out there.

It's funny Pat

Posted By: Steve P
Date: 10/12/06 3:22p.m.

Report: outside forum guidelines

In Response To: BTW, El Cap isn't a real climb anymore. (New Age "Klimber")

Whenever you show up we get a whole raft of apparently anonymous posters all of whom use the same poor language skills and have the same lack of useful information.

One thing that is universally consistent with you is you like to give people a lot of sh't about how they do something or what they say but never have anything useful to contribute to a thread.

I do find it interesting that your girlfriend harps on endlessly about Jon E's judgments of other peoples style while you are an example of the very worst of such things. While Jon might lament the lack of style in modern cruising in general you attack people personally who have vastly more experience with sailing and with life than yourself.

In any case I can't comment on the young Mr Osborn but I would be surprised if he lead many or any of the pitches on even the easiest route on El-Cap after just a few weeks of climbing classes. There's a difference between jugging a fixed line and leading and following a pitch. But I'm not going to make that assumption without knowing because it's true that climbing El-Cap can be relatively easy depending on the route you take and were he a decent athlete and bold he could lead on the easier routes.

Now as for your reputed ascent of Everest. That's a crock of sh't if I ever heard it. Probably biggest blow of spray ever to grace this BB. Care to post any photo's to prove your assertion?

I didn't think so.

You Pat Bumfuzzle are a bane to the existence of human kind everywhere, truly a rich kid who never had to do anything for himself. It's a shame that the cruisers of today are being represented by people like yourself. I feel sorry for whoever pulls into town after you. They must have a diplomatic task greater than that of Condi herself to try and smooth over relations after you've left town.

In any case. I've entertained you long enough and used you to wipe my verbal ass far too much for the good folks who like to make better use of this BB. So I will bid you farewell and may you find better things to do on your next adventure. A climb of El-Cap perhaps? There are some routes you might find up to your considerable abilities like Jolly Roger, or Sea of Dreams.

Good try Ali

Posted By: Steve P
Date: 10/12/06 4:25p.m.

Report: outside forum guidelines

In Response To: Sorry Steve, I'm not one of them, (Not a Bumfuzzle)

But this latest is clearly not written by the same person who wrote the former. I do actually know quite a bit of the history of sailing and climbing in the 60's and 70's care to enlighten me about yourself. Go ahead brag a little bit it won't hurt you any. I'd be honored to think I was conversing with one of the legendary pioneers of two of my favorite activities.

It's amazing to me the lengths to which you two go to entertain yourselves and the level of contradiction included in the process. He's the punk and you just can't shut up about this issue of 'modern support'. I hate to break it to you Ali but you got the wrong guy. I don't have a problem with modern gear, that's not my issue. That's an issue you've had with Jon ever since he dissed you guys and I was never involved. But with every post of yours out it comes. It gives you away more clearly than an e-mail address and photograph.

One wonders though what kind of a sad trip the two of you must be having to work up such incredibly elaborate stories such as this. It's also kind of sad the way you two refer to yourselves in the third person.

I guess being annoying doesn't get you many friends in the cruising community?

I do feel sorry for you honestly, it's a shame to waste such a great opportunity as you have. But I guess that's the nature of youth.

I'm not sure where you got my income from. I guess I must have posted it at some point but I can't remember why I would want to do that. It's equally sad that you would search through the archives or worse yet hack me to find something like that.

In any case I don't like you and I don't like your boyfriend. You two don't like me or Jon or anybody apparently except yourselves. Good deal nuff said can we leave it that? Or do you need to create an even more elaborate and hard to substantiate story than the one you've already made?

Really I've wiped my ass with your boyfriend and now I'm done with you. Can't say I exactly wiped my ass with you as you're marginally more clever with words than he is. What a strange mix the two of you make. A real study in pathology. In any case I've indulged myself with the two of you for long enough. Fair winds P&A Bumfuzzle may you find whatever it is that will put your minds at ease.

Here is another one that went absolutely crazy on the cs-bb forum. It got too long to copy, but here is the link.

http://www.cs-bb.com/forums/csbbarchives2/index.cgi?read=54834

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