Julian Opie Interviews and Texts – from his own website Guardian Online – 2003



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During the process of making this exhibition some projects have had to be dropped and new ones inserted. Making outdoor installations requires pragmatism and quick changes. A plan to make some scrolling landscapes proved too complicated and I started to look for another solution for the sight. Monument circle seems to be the heart of town. The huge war memorial with its' many carved figures is flanked by busy modern office buildings. It is a tourist attraction and is usually quite crowded. People often gather outside office buildings, usually to smoke, so when I made a mock up of my figures standing in front of the building they seemed to sit quite naturally while also perhaps reflecting the figures on the monument. I have used a common form of street signage to hold the images of the men who are drawn in a sign like manner. Over the last few years I have built up an archive of images of people. I picked only men to give the group an identity and perhaps a slightly intimidating air. Men tend to stand quite straight and evenly balanced, facing the camera directly. The men are composed as if they were elements in a painting, using colour, spacing and gesture.

 
When I received an e-mail from Bryan Adams I assumed it was a joke but when I phoned the given number he picked up and said: " How great is the internet ? ". He wanted a portrait of himself for the next album and we set a date for a photo-shoot. He lives in West London in a large studio by the River. Bryan took a break from practicing with his band and we retired to the large sky-lit kitchen, to work. I had been drawing pictures of women in various poses and was keen to find an equivalent way of drawing men. I asked Bryan to hold his guitar and he played some riffs from the latest album but without plugging in the guitar. I photographed every pose without knowing quite what I would do with them. I first used the images for a series of paintings, which emitted sound.

 
Bryan agreed to swap the portrait for a short piece of music, which plays from speakers attached to the rear of the canvas. I have considered men playing tennis or basket ball, even fencing but somehow playing the guitar is the only male pose that works. Recently I drew the poster for a music festival in Switzerland and used the rock group Deep Purple. In this case the singer with his microphone also seemed to work. Here in Indianapolis, Bryan Adams seemed to hit the right mood, jeans and a t-shirt and a low-slung guitar. I have long tried to bring the paintings I have been making off the wall and out into three dimensions. The glass statues and the LED moving monoliths are other solutions, but I wanted to use the look of business signs. Modern towns are full of these, often large and illuminated, objects but they are somewhat invisible now. They have an equivalence to historical statuary, relating to architecture and having a symbolic role.

 
In 2002 I took my wife and nine year old daughter on holiday to Bali. I had work to do in Tokyo, so we stopped off there first. I bought an underwater camera in the airport as I had a plan to draw my family swimming underwater. I had been invited to make a museum installation in a long corridor of the national museum in Tokyo and wanted to use the Bali holiday as a way of knitting together a series of images. I was drawing portraits and a lot of landscapes at that time and was interested in finding a way of showing them together. Inspired by Rosenquist's F1-11 painting, I envisioned wallpapering images of faces from Bali interspersed with landscapes, sea scapes and underwater scenes. I hoped the mood, colours and subject matter would fall together and make sense of the diverse images. Once in Bali I asked the people working in the hotel and those selling various services on the beach if I could take their photo. I wandered around the local hills and villages looking at the landscapes and photographed the monkeys at a local temple. I asked my wife and daughter to swim past me as I sat on the bottom of the hotel pool taking photos. There was a coral reef near the hotel and we took local wooden boats out there to snorkel. We were surrounded by colourful fish and I photographed them too. Without flash the images of the fast moving fish were not great and I later resorted to a London aquarium to get better ones.

 
To further knit the work together I recorded the sounds of the waves on the stone beach, the musicians playing their wooden xylophones and the early morning bird song. These sounds were played from concealed speakers along the corridor in the Tokyo museum. The fish drawings surprised me. I would not have planned to draw fish, it came up almost by accident but they proved to be very useful. They act as a kind of automatic compositional tool. It takes a long time to place them correctly so that they seem natural and make a dynamic picture but in theory they can be placed anywhere on the canvas almost as if they were abstract marks. I have made some works with fish only and others of fish in combination with swimming figures. The bodies give the scene a focus and a reference to classical painting. The American habit of joining buildings together with glass bridges gave me an opportunity to further use this project. The bridge creates a screen across the road and the double image of my wife swimming creates an animated connection between the two buildings. In Tokyo I had used wallpaper which is a lovely surface but very difficult to get just right. The fish and the figures are black and white so another option was to simply use sticky backed plastic (vinyl). The stick-on quality emphasises the possible movement of the elements.

 
I have always been drawn to statues. They are a subset of sculpture and play a particular role. They are often placed on plinths, have a relationship to architecture or are even part of a building. You find them in city squares depicting heroes or in parks, gardens and palaces showing gods and goddesses in various poses. In a sense they are stand-ins for people and as such are often used as memorials. Indianapolis is a city of memorial statues and I wanted to connect to this but in a contemporary way. I have placed Sara on a high brick plinth modelled after a garage forecourt sign seen on the outskirts of town. Since I started showing art in the early 80's I have played around with the relationship of something drawn and something sculpted. I often draw on sculptures, or rather turn the material that I draw on ( the sheet of blank paper ) into a sculpture of the same thing that I am drawing. Over the years I have found that the relationship between the two can be loose. Watching children play I see that a whole city or farm can be imagined using simple wooden blocks as long as each block carries a simple sign for the thing that it is. This is the first time I have made a four sided LED statue. Each side is a flat drawing and she is always seen from the front. I hope that the eye and brain put the information together to make a whole person.

 
The five buildings were drawn in London and New York but the window configurations and building shapes are mixed and matched. The scale brings the buildings above eye level and whilst keeping the sculpture as small as possible aims to create the sense of being in a city. The question mark in the title undermines the emphatic quality of the noun and the object. It also adds an element of anxiety.

 
"City?" was built by a commercial sign maker in London. The body of the work is made of aluminium, which is electro-statically powder-coated white. The windows are cut from sheets of black vinyl by a computer-guided knife. The unwanted vinyl is "weeded" by hand and using water and soap each side of the building's windows are floated on as a single sheet and manoeuvered into place.

 
I first made sculptures of schematic office buildings drawn on boxes in 1996. They were made of wood and were intended to be individual works although they were often used in installations with other wooden sculptures of cars, trees and animals. A similar out-door work, "My brother's office." was commissioned for the Dutch town of Assen in 1997 but City? Is the largest and most complicated of the office buildings series to date.

 
I have drawn a lot of portraits. The format has been passport style close-up. I wanted the bare essence of a face, a presence. However I am always looking for ways to expand on the logic of the works I have made in order to make new works. I take a lot from looking at other peoples art, including, perhaps particularly, older art. In fact I often want my works, in some ways, to look like older art. I wanted to try half-length portraits and multiple portraits as so often seen in museums. I think I have managed the half-length portraits, mainly by getting the models to pose with something, a staff or a book but the multiple portraits have been more difficult. The eye can flick annoyingly back and forth between the different people and the question of the relationship between the people seems to hang unanswered.

 
The only time I got it to work was when drawing monkeys; in fact a single monkey did not work. I was not sure why but felt that maybe one reason was because the relationship between them was obvious and they looked the same (to me). I very much like the woodblock prints of Kitagawa Utamaro made in the late 18th Century. He is most famous for his portraits of women or "beauties". You may have a mug or calendar with one of them on it, I do. He manages to portray groups of women. At first glance they seem to be the same woman repeated but they are not. The same is true of a lot of early Renaissance paintings by artists such as Giotto. All the haloed figures can seem to be the same person, often drawn from the same angle. This might seem a limitation or lack of imagination or skill but it offers great possibilities in terms of making a picture.

 
I set about trying to use this logic by asking a family that I have known for a long time to pose together for me. I have seen the girls grow up and they seem very much a unit. They don't all look the same but have a lot of shared characteristics and colouring. It was awkward to do the group session in the middle of a family weekend. There was much giggling but once I was safely behind the camera they worked hard at it. They were joined by their mother for some shots. It's not just the similarities of the four that bond the image but also the body language between them. I have drawn other groupings of these four women but this format, which echoes film posters and the wide screen, seemed to ask to be very big. Since the painting is of a group it avoids the problematic question that arises when presenting the single portraits out of context, which is; who on Earth is this person?

 
Armed with a solution I have made my first large outdoor portrait work. Being outdoors it begs a form that fits into the urban surroundings. Usually I use a canvas on stretcher (albeit computer cut plastic), which reminds you of a museum painting and I show these in a museum-like context. For "Esther, Lottie, Hannah and Ginny." I have used an aluminium light box. It is closer to the way in which advertisements are presented. One could imagine an entire exhibition of paintings around a town using the walls of the city as the equivalent of the walls of a gallery. It might be easier to drive.


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Julie Morere

 
"Impersonality and Emotion in Julian Opie’s /People/, /Portraits/ and /Landscapes/", /Impersonality and Emotion in Twentieth-Century British Arts/, J.M. Ganteau et C. Reynier (éd.), PULM, Montpellier III, coll. "Present Perfect 2" (2006): 217-231.

 
 

 
Julian Opie's People and Portraits series ambivalently reconcile the impersonality of the digital media with a strong sense of self, since Opie poses himself as thinker and prolific creator, thus breaking the impersonality pact as he allows emotions to slip in. On the other hand, the impersonality of his stylized drawings may disconcert the viewer who finds no familiar bearings in the drawings which look like empty shells. The artist recommends a highly disengaged attitude towards his works, but he also knows that they cannot be taken in and understood if the personal emotions, memories and ideas of the viewer do not come into play to fill in the blanks of the narratives that are to be 'read' in his drawings. 

 
Digital art seems to be the most impersonal and vacuous means that one can think of to relate to the external world: Yves Michaud, in L'Art a l'etat gazeux: essai sur le triomphe de l'esthetique, evokes the paradox found in the ethereal, vaporous quality of postmodern works of art, 'des experiences esthetiques ou il ne reste plus qu'un gaz, un ether, une buee artistique,' as opposed to those rare objects that used to be hung in museums and that people contemplated religiously. On the contrary, digital art is the result of a complexly coded combination of numbers and reasoned formulas which seem to have no relevance to aesthetic emotion. In her article entitled 'Bodies and Digital Utopia,' Catherine Bernard evokes a 'dissociation from experienced physical reality,' a 'dematerialization and slow disappearance of the physical dimensions of our beings.' Such a statement seems to apply directly to Opie's work at first, but as I discuss his exploration of the codes and conventions of representation, I will show how in fact, he tries to combine the personal and the impersonal in his people and portraits series.

 
Juggling with the economical aesthetics of computer creations that come to life through various media such as vinyl, LED, enamel-on-glass sculptures, aluminium, steel, plywood, stickers, screensavers, road signs, CD covers or billboards, Opie departs from traditional visual arts as he sculpts, prints, or installs his works. Opie emerged as an influential figure on the British art scene in the 1980s, and from the start, he ambivalently combined individuality and impersonality in his reinterpretation of a cultural past that he reclaimed or re-appropriated. His accumulated objects and heaps of canvases or his plates of portraits made him a direct inheritor of Pop Art aesthetics. He was also greatly influenced by minimalist and conceptual artists, reflecting on the status of abstract art and its vision of the world as surfaces and signs, as well as on the (lack of) correspondence between signifier and signified. Opie achieves detachment in the same way as Pop artists did through the sense of distance given by new techniques. While Andy Warhol used serigraphy and Lichtenstein Ben Day Dots, Opie chose the digital image in his recent works. This medium conveys an apparent lack of subjectivity and individuality which seems to dissolve the self of the artist and place the work of art to the front of the stage. The clean-edged lines of the drawings confer them an impersonality which seems to imply that the artist does not engage his human personality or emotions in the creative process.

 
However, Opie ambiguously poses himself as creator, and his work is very much connected with real life persons or situations. He talks about his 'greed' to grasp and draw anything available and explains how he came to realize that the realism of his works was a key factor to artistic creation. By realism, he means something which tallies with his experience of the world, something that is held as information in his head and that he tries to remake into his own language. Ironically then, as he takes photographs of people and draws from them, it is as if he took in fact four steps back from reality: first he perceives/sees these people in a certain way, then he takes a picture of them, thirdly, he executes his drawings, and lastly, he endlessly reprints them or redraws them on various media for the exhibits. Another main dilemma is to decide whether to add lots of details to be as realistic as possible or, on the contrary, none at all, which is the solution he chooses with de-saturated images that could be endlessly reproduced with slight variants.

 
As he strove to remain as detached as possible from his creations, Opie has elaborated a very unique form of art, which is very recognizable and very personal, nearly hyper-personal, or 'hyper-real' in Jean Baudrillard's terms. Opie reduces bodies and faces to the most essential lines and colour planes, omitting idiosyncratic details. As he seems to strive towards a universal mode of expression, a new form of artistic language, in fact he achieves a balance between the generic (the impersonal) and the specific (the personal or the individual), which first confronts the spectator (or 'reader' in Opie's own terms) with an endless repetition of disconcerting look-alikes that hardly stir any emotion in the viewer. I will first discuss Opie's ambiguously detached artistic treatment of people. Then, in spite of the fact that some critics have interpreted Opie's work as alienating and representative of the estrangement from our nature, caused by the advance of technologies and industrial modernity, I will show how despite the seeming neutrality of the drawings, the 'reader' slowly feels a sense of exhilarating identity with the characters depicted, as well as a sense of freedom about how to look and understand the pictures, reacting personally to the works he sees.

 
 

 
The creative process

 
Opie soon departed from his Minimalist phase to represent real life landscapes, animals and people, but the stripped down lines of his digital drawings retain some abstract quality. Opie's glitzy and ungraspable surfaces are deprived of the torments of the flesh, at the antipodes, if only to take one example, of neo-expressionist paintings whose brushwork imprints the body on the canvas in a painful and distorted manner, disfiguring, or de-personalizing it. Opie seems to eliminate the tactile dimension as if all that went through it were an obstacle to an immediate inner truth, in a world where sight is almighty. Opie's work seems to be an art connected to thought only, a form of art that would be disembodied since the artist's own body stands out of the creative process, refusing to participate in the physical exhaustion of the creation, a clean art with no paint stain on one's cheeks or hands or clothes. Although a lot of technical efforts are put into his works, Opie rarely participates in their setting up and has people do it for him: '[it] allows me a position further back, more like a puppeteer. […] Physically, my hands don't touch that material that you are standing in front of […] but I have pored over it for many hours. […] poring over is for me the way in which I work' (Julian Opie, video).

 
As he started drawing modern buildings Opie took a further step in detachment. Because most modern buildings were rectangular, just like a painting in a way, the object on which he drew the building was itself rectangular. Just as for children toys, Opie thought that if he drew the shape of a car, a tree or a human shape on one side, it would become a car, a tree or a man or woman, and that he would only have to increase the size of these drawings to make them on an adult scale. His objects are all-surface and the emphasis on form and colours makes them easily and quickly readable. Just as the pristine signs and logos that flood our visual field daily, the drawings have no perspective but only a two-dimensional quality which helps the artist to keep them at a distance. Besides, the formal properties of the drawings are as important as the vocabulary they use to communicate meaning.

 
Opie started drawing people using the old Letraset tracing paper over photographs but then he explains: 'I consciously looked around for a way in which I could draw [people] and it started by buying the aluminium symbols for male and female toilets and I looked at them and thought [that thus] I could combine as I often do the impersonal with the personal' (Julian Opie, video), tracing sharp lines which remind us of Michael Craig-Martin's schematic drawings. In the creative process, Opie concentrates on limbs, faces and necks, fragmenting the bodies but also stylizing the shapes and eliminating unnecessary parts: as a result, the bodies of his characters seem maimed or dismembered. The characters' round heads are severed from the torsos and they strangely look like the glory or aura that can be seen over the head of an angel. The absence of neck, feet or hands gives an eerie feeling to the viewer, for de-personalization at first seems to reach an unbearable extreme.

 
When Opie drops the photograph (with relief, he says), the work of art ceases to be a multilayered copy of reality. According to Mary Horlock in her 2004 monograph, Opie's style is a '"non" style,' for it tries to rationalise the human body, 'as if a special computer programme could abstract and reduce reality to quintessentials and fabricate them in multiple forms.' Moreover, Opie considers his portraits as objects: 'I play with images and then I define them as objects, so the portraits exist [only as] digital files and at that point I don't deem them to be art works yet' (Julian Opie, video). Thus digital technologies are just a means in Opie's hands, a new tool or media allowing him to create new pictures faster and more accurately, to play with shapes and colours.

 
With smooth faces and all imperfections wiped out (no pimples and no wrinkles), the portraits present two button eyes, two dots for the nose, the mouth a longer upper line and a shorter lower one, the eyebrows two neat brushstrokes. However, Opie retains one or two details-an exotic flower for Muliati in the eponymous portrait Muliati, Shop Assistant (2002), a hair-band for Christine in Christine, Gallery Director (back) (2000), or auburn textured hair for Jo in Jo, Architect (2001). Thus he never completely erases the personalities of his models, no matter how schematized, 'and their particularities bec[o]me more prominent through the reduction of everything else' (Horlock 81). Differentiations can also be noted in the titles (first names, professions, actions, gestures, postures or specific item mentioned), thus maintaining a sense of individuality within the multiplicity and giving a new resonance to the drawing. The characters' serial forms prompt us to think about society, how we relate to one another and resemble one another, and whether we are all reducible to types.

 
Opie actually met the people he drew, and he liked the idea of their getting 'enmeshed in the process' (Julian Opie, video), but at the same time, he radically says: 'I want it to be as if each person I draw were a multinational company with a logo.' In the end, he seems to have achieved a sort of balance between the personality of his 'real' models and the impersonality of a generic form. Such an impersonal attitude on the side of the artist enjoins the viewer to do so as well. But as the viewer tries to tame his fear of an appalling void (the void in the pictures as well as the vapidity that our world resounds with despite its being saturated with signs and meaning), he inevitably loses some of his neutrality, as he becomes a sort of co-creator who fills in the blanks of the drawings' minimal narratives. Through the simplicity of repeated gestures in the LED installations or computer animations, and plain faces in the portraits, the 'reader' is inevitably captured in a sort of story that he himself creates, reacting emotionally to the works of art presented. How does Opie's 'fiction' affect the viewer? How do Opie's disengaged drawings invite but also thwart representational and emotional identification?

 
By thoroughly studying the history of human responses to images, in his book entitled The Power of Images: Studies in the History and Theory of Response, Freedberg detected many factors that question a tidy separation of intellect and emotion and highlight the need 'to acknowledge the role of sensation in knowledge.' Besides, the word 'aesthetics' derives from the Greek word aisthanestai ('to feel') and then acquired a larger meaning related to the notion of taste. In Kantian terms, the judgement of taste is subjective, disinterested and free, a triad which seems to correspond to the attitude that Opie's viewer should adopt: 'Opie often argues that a sense of detachment is necessary, that we must distance ourselves from reality in order to see it clearly' (Horlock 43). As aesthetics explores the compromises and pitfalls of representation, one may wonder what drives an artist to create. Is it the emotion stirred in him by a face? Is it the colour of a person's eyes or hair? This emotional absence stimulates the imagination of the reader who willingly reconstructs emotions, and thus always faces the threat of abandoning his disinterested standpoint and slipping down the emotional slope. Why is the 'reader' so eager to rush in to fill the emotional gap, ascribing melancholy, arrogance or surprise to the characters depicted by Opie?



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