Uk-us extradition Treaty
The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department (Joan Ryan)
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- Mr. Denis MacShane (Rotherham) (Lab)
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- Mr. Alex Salmond (Banff and Buchan) (SNP)
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3.32 pmThe Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department (Joan Ryan): I apologise in advance to right hon. and hon. Members if I fail to address their points, as I have only five or six minutes in which to respond. We have had extradition treaties with the United States since 1796 and, for most of that time, those relationships have been uncontentious. The only criticism has been that procedures are often slow. Indeed, we heard about cases in which people waited eight or 10 years to be extradited. I am pleased that, under the Extradition Act 2003, such lengthy processes before someone can even stand trial, which are not in the interests of justice, will no longer take place. The Government have a responsibility to review and modernise the UK’s extradition laws, as that has not been undertaken thoroughly since 1870. The Home Office published a full review of extradition law in March 2001, which was well before 9/11—a point that has already been made. Many right hon. and hon. Members said that the treaty and the Act dealt only with crimes related to terrorism, but that is not the case. The Act deals with our relationship with a particular country and it covers all crimes, not just terrorism. I have a record of our debates in Standing Committee, in which the United States was designated as a country that did not require prima facie evidence. We made it clear that the designation, which changed our relationship with the United States, did not just apply to terrorism. Much of the debate, if anyone chooses to read it, was about different kinds of crime. Mr. Denis MacShane (Rotherham) (Lab): How would my hon. Friend regard a British firm whose criminal activity led to the destruction of thousands of people’s lives, their homes, pensions and their children’s education? What if we wanted to bring back to this country someone to give evidence on the international ramifications of such activity, but another sovereign legislature refused to accept our claim? We should not forget that we are talking about international law and international crime. Joan Ryan: Absolutely. My right hon. Friend makes the case for the measure. I shall concentrate on a few issues that arose in our debate. First, the Liberal Democrats requested a debate because they said that there had not been enough time or scrutiny. When the treaty was ratified, it was laid before the House for 21 days with an explanatory memorandum. It was submitted to the Select Committee on Home Affairs under the Ponsonby rules,
It being Three hours after the commencement of proceedings, Mr. Deputy Speaker interrupted the proceedings pursuant to Standing Order No. 24 (Adjournment on a specific and important matter that should have urgent consideration) and put the Question forthwith:—— The House proceeded to a Division. Mr. Alex Salmond (Banff and Buchan) (SNP): On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. As I am sure that you are well aware, “Erskine May” makes it clear that, in this House, according to ancient practice, votes should follow voices. In my distinct observation, Government Front Benchers shouted, “No”, on the Division, but I have not seen any of them vote in the No Lobby. Will you therefore explain whether “Erskine May” has been observed by Government Front Benchers and confirm that that is the practice of this House? Perhaps you will even suggest why the Government are not voting in the Division. Mr. Deputy Speaker (Sir Michael Lord): The hon. Member for Banff and Buchan (Mr. Salmond) has misinterpreted what is set out in “Erskine May”. The best thing that we can do is wait to see the result of the Division.
Division No. 284] [3.32 pm
AYES Afriyie, Adam Ainsworth, Mr. Peter Alexander, Danny Amess, Mr. David Ancram, rh Mr. Michael Arbuthnot, rh Mr. James Atkinson, Mr. Peter Bacon, Mr. Richard Baker, Norman Barker, Gregory Baron, Mr. John Barrett, John Beith, rh Mr. Alan Bellingham, Mr. Henry Benyon, Mr. Richard Beresford, Sir Paul Binley, Mr. Brian Blunt, Mr. Crispin Boswell, Mr. Tim Bottomley, Peter Brady, Mr. Graham Brake, Tom Brazier, Mr. Julian Breed, Mr. Colin Brokenshire, James Brooke, Annette Browning, Angela Bruce, Malcolm Burns, Mr. Simon Burrowes, Mr. David Burstow, Mr. Paul Burt, Alistair Burt, Lorely Cable, Dr. Vincent Cameron, rh Mr. David Campbell, rh Sir Menzies Carmichael, Mr. Alistair Carswell, Mr. Douglas Cash, Mr. William Chope, Mr. Christopher Clappison, Mr. James Clark, Greg Clarke, rh Mr. Kenneth Clegg, Mr. Nick Clifton-Brown, Mr. Geoffrey Conway, Derek Cormack, Sir Patrick Cox, Mr. Geoffrey Crabb, Mr. Stephen Curry, rh Mr. David Davey, Mr. Edward Davies, David T.C. (Monmouth) Davies, Philip Davies, Mr. Quentin Davis, rh David (Haltemprice and Howden) Djanogly, Mr. Jonathan Dorrell, rh Mr. Stephen Dorries, Mrs. Nadine Duddridge, James Duncan, Mr. Alan Duncan Smith, rh Mr. Iain Dunne, Mr. Philip Ellwood, Mr. Tobias Evennett, Mr. David Fabricant, Michael Fallon, Mr. Michael Farron, Tim Field, Mr. Mark Foster, Mr. Don Francois, Mr. Mark Gale, Mr. Roger Galloway, Mr. George Garnier, Mr. Edward Gauke, Mr. David George, Andrew Gibb, Mr. Nick Gidley, Sandra Gillan, Mrs. Cheryl Goldsworthy, Julia Goodman, Mr. Paul Goodwill, Mr. Robert Gove, Michael Gray, Mr. James Grayling, Chris Green, Damian Greening, Justine Greenway, Mr. John Grieve, Mr. Dominic Hague, rh Mr. William Hammond, Mr. Philip Hammond, Stephen Hancock, Mr. Mike Harper, Mr. Mark Harris, Dr. Evan Hayes, Mr. John Heald, Mr. Oliver Heath, Mr. David Heathcoat-Amory, rh Mr. David Hemming, John Hendry, Charles Herbert, Nick Hoban, Mr. Mark Hoey, Kate Hollobone, Mr. Philip Holmes, Paul Horam, Mr. John Horwood, Martin Hosie, Stewart Howard, rh Mr. Michael Howarth, David Howarth, Mr. Gerald Hughes, Simon Huhne, Chris Hunt, Mr. Jeremy Hunter, Mark Hurd, Mr. Nick Jack, rh Mr. Michael Jackson, Mr. Stewart Jenkin, Mr. Bernard Johnson, Mr. Boris Jones, Mr. David Kawczynski, Daniel Keetch, Mr. Paul Kennedy, rh Mr. Charles Key, Robert Kirkbride, Miss Julie Knight, rh Mr. Greg Kramer, Susan Lait, Mrs. Jacqui Lamb, Norman Lancaster, Mr. Mark Lansley, Mr. Andrew Laws, Mr. David Leech, Mr. John Leigh, Mr. Edward Letwin, rh Mr. Oliver Lewis, Dr. Julian Liddell-Grainger, Mr. Ian Lidington, Mr. David Lilley, rh Mr. Peter Llwyd, Mr. Elfyn Loughton, Tim Luff, Peter Mackay, rh Mr. Andrew Main, Anne Malins, Mr. Humfrey Maples, Mr. John Mates, rh Mr. Michael Maude, rh Mr. Francis May, rh Mrs. Theresa McDonnell, John McIntosh, Miss Anne McLoughlin, rh Mr. Patrick Mercer, Patrick Miller, Mrs. Maria Milton, Anne Mitchell, Mr. Andrew Moore, Mr. Michael Moss, Mr. Malcolm Mulholland, Greg Mundell, David Murrison, Dr. Andrew Neill, Robert O'Brien, Mr. Stephen Oaten, Mr. Mark Öpik, Lembit Osborne, Mr. George Ottaway, Richard Paice, Mr. James Paterson, Mr. Owen Pelling, Mr. Andrew Penning, Mike Penrose, John Pickles, Mr. Eric Price, Adam Prisk, Mr. Mark Pritchard, Mark Pugh, Dr. John Randall, Mr. John Redwood, rh Mr. John Reid, Mr. Alan Rennie, Willie Rifkind, rh Sir Malcolm Robathan, Mr. Andrew Robertson, Angus Robertson, Hugh Robertson, Mr. Laurence Rowen, Paul Russell, Bob Salmond, Mr. Alex Sanders, Mr. Adrian Scott, Mr. Lee Selous, Andrew Shapps, Grant Shepherd, Mr. Richard Short, rh Clare Simmonds, Mark Simpson, Mr. Keith Smith, Sir Robert Soames, Mr. Nicholas Spelman, Mrs. Caroline Spicer, Sir Michael Spink, Bob Spring, Mr. Richard Stanley, rh Sir John Steen, Mr. Anthony Streeter, Mr. Gary Stuart, Mr. Graham Swayne, Mr. Desmond Swinson, Jo Swire, Mr. Hugo Syms, Mr. Robert Tapsell, Sir Peter Taylor, David Taylor, Mr. Ian Taylor, Matthew Teather, Sarah Thurso, John Tredinnick, David Turner, Mr. Andrew Tyrie, Mr. Andrew Vara, Mr. Shailesh Villiers, Mrs. Theresa Walter, Mr. Robert Watkinson, Angela Webb, Steve Weir, Mr. Mike Whittingdale, Mr. John Widdecombe, rh Miss Ann Wiggin, Bill Willetts, Mr. David Williams, Hywel Williams, Mark Williams, Mr. Roger Williams, Stephen Willis, Mr. Phil Willott, Jenny Wilshire, Mr. David Wilson, Mr. Rob Winnick, Mr. David Winterton, Ann Winterton, Sir Nicholas Wishart, Pete Wright, Jeremy Yeo, Mr. Tim Young, rh Sir George Tellers for the Ayes:Andrew Rosindell and Mr. Dan Rogerson NOES Cohen, Harry Simpson, Alan Skinner, Mr. Dennis Taylor, David Tellers for the Noes:Mr. Douglas Hogg and David Maclean Question accordingly agreed to. Adjourned at six minutes to Four o’clock. Download 257.06 Kb. Share with your friends:
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