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good afternoon my name is eli. can you please tell me your name now ? my name is nancy murugi . and what should i call you you can call me nancy. okay nancy in this first part i'd like to ask you some questions about yourself. let's talk about what you do do you work or are you a student? i work as a registered nurse in a hospital here in london and i'm also a student in icu critical care course in university of west london. have you been doing your job for a long time ? yes i've actually been a nurse for about eight years now but i moved to london to do my current job and i've been doing it for two years. what would make your work easier? i think what would make my work easier is probably reducing the nurse patient ratio. you know sometimes you get about five patients but it would be so good if i got one or two patients. so i would be able to take care of them better and of course increasing the salary because it's not the best. and let's move on let's talk about the city and the countryside . do you prefer the city or the countryside? i prefer living in the city because there's so much to do and you'll never get bored there's always activities. although sometimes you prefer going to the countryside just to relax and just get away from the city for a few days . why do you think some people choose to live in the countryside ? i think they probably don't like uh the fast life of the city because sometimes the city can be stressful everyone is busy and everything is moving at a very fast pace it also tends to be more expensive than the countryside so I think they move away just to have a nice quiet time you know here you're not paying a lot of money for expenses so yeah. um what do you think can be difficult about living in the countryside? i think you don't have access to a lot of the facilities that we have in the city so for example there are things like big shopping malls or just big things like movies or you know just a lot of things in the city uh keep growing but then in the countryside i don't think they have that much access to things like that they may have them but in more smaller capacities. do you think you would ever choose to live in the countryside? i don't think so. i'm okay with visiting but i don't think i could live there for a long time like i said i think i would get bored very fast and i'll just run back to the city. let's move on let's talk about pet animals. do you have any pets ? unfortunately i don't and the only reason is because in my current apartment i'm not allowed to have any animals and it's quite small so i don't think it would be fair for the animals like i love cats and i would i would want them to have more space to play around so yeah i don't have any at the moment. what kind of animals do you think make good pets? i think cats are the best because if if i was to have a dog then I would have to walk it a couple of times a day but then with cats you just need to provide them with you know things to play like toys to play with and then give them food and give them space and their attention whenever they feel like so i think those are the best kind of animals to have around . why do you think some people like to keep um kind of dangerous animals like snakes? i think it's just because of maybe their interest and some people just have that uh feeling like they want to be in danger all the time like the adrenaline junkies i would call them so if you if you have an animal that is dangerous then all the time you're feeling like you're you know stronger and you're overcoming the danger that that comes with them yeah. um in general how do you think um owning and spending time with a pet can make us feel? um i think it would actually make us feel much better in terms of reducing stress and just having um an animal there to keep you company and make you happy and it's always recommended you know for people who are sick or just anybody really to have an animal with them because it just makes you feel better about yourself and you you don't feel like you're alone you always have something there that can you know play you can play with them and not feel bored at all . okay now nancy we're going to move on to part two and in part two i'm going to give you a topic and i'd like you to talk about it for one to two minutes and before you start you'll have one minute to think about what you're going to say and you can make some notes if you wish do you understand? yes okay here's your topic can you see that? yes yes i can save that okay. do i need to so you'll have uh one minute to prepare this topic all right remember you have one to two minutes for this so don't worry if i stop you i'll tell you when the time is up can you start speaking now please. okay so the place i would like to visit right now is the maldives and i know maldives is just a beautiful place serene and just a wonderful place to get away from the city and if i had a choice if someone told me they're going to pay the ticket for me now i would just leave right now at the moment especially you know in summer and I would want to go there just to get away from the fast city life i've been working and studying and it's been so so busy for me so if i had this chance to go to the maldives i would definitely go right now. um the reason is you know like i said i've been studying and working for a you know a really long time so i would go there just enjoy my time have a holiday for once because i haven't had a holiday in you know over a year because of everything that's happening and uh going to the maldives i think it would just make me feel much better and relaxed and obviously when i come back to work and to school i think i would be able to do that much better maybe than i am doing right now because i would have relaxed and you know enjoyed my time at the beach have you know some tropical drinks dancing and enjoying the evenings and you know all the entertainment that comes with it i would also want to do the water activities. some of them i don't know but i would really enjoy the chance to go and learn how to do them because i think i'm you know an adventurous person. so i would love to go there enjoy my time and come back having learned some new skills as well on the side .also i i would you know i would be happy if i could take a friend with me because i feel like going on holidays alone is not the best thing so if i would have one of my friends to come with me I think that would be really good you know really great and it would make the holiday even more enjoyable. and you know having someone with you you have more fun together other than being on your own.) thank you do you think you ever will go to the mall dudes? i think i will it's on my list so i would definitely have to save up for that but i think i will go . thank you okay nancy we're going to move into part three and in this part i'm going to ask you some more general questions related to the same theme so let's first of all talk a little bit about um travel . um so you're living in um london at the moment .do you think that a lot of people in london and england more broadly like to travel? i think they do because all the people I come across and i meet a lot of people um in school and at work when we get to talking everybody is always saying where they have been for holidays or where or where they're planning to go for holiday and yeah i think a lot of them do love to travel when they get a chance. and do you think um do you think a lot of english people stay within the uk when they go on holiday or do you think they travel abroad? i think they travel abroad because the ones that i've spoken to i feel like I have traveled more within the uk than they have and they've been here for probably the rest of you know most of their lives they like to go outside the uk because they will tell you i've been in this and this place and they're always outside you know the uk yeah. and um and you're you were born in kenya right? yes i was born in kenya and would you say it's the same kind of um approach to travel in kenya? i don't think so i think because of how we grew up and the economy wasn't always the best. travel was something you know like a luxury which everybody didn't afford. but i think now that things are getting better everybody's changing their perspective and people are becoming more touristy or more tourists than they were before so even if it's not going outside of kenya they would do like local tourism where they would go from their their place so where they live to other places like enjoy the national park or the beaches so yeah it's getting more common now which is good . what kind of uh preparations do you think people should make before they go on holiday? i think you should do more research uh regarding the budget you need to know where you're going and how much is going to cost you for you know the amount of time that you're going to be there and you should also be able to research the activities that you're going to do because you just don't want to show up to a place without any plan so researching the budget and what you're going to do when you're there that's really important. um would you give people any advice for um traveling to for example london or to your part of kenya? yes um first those are two different you know two different places so if you're coming to london i would say the budget is really important save up before time and try to look for offers there are places that you know give you some offers if you stay for a couple of days like if you are coming for three days and you say you're staying for five days they may decide to give you a discount so look out for things like that and then for kenya it's it's much better because you are not going to spend as much money as you're going to spend as you're going to spend in london but in kenya i would advise to check where you're going . because some places may not be very safe but it would be advisable if you research in advance and get some really good places to stay when you get there. and let's move on let's talk a bit about actually moving to another country so for example to study or to work what advice would you give to someone in terms of fitting in with a local culture when they move abroad ? i would say just be open-minded you are moving to a new country where the cultures are different and people have different ways of doing things so just you know have the open mind that they don't do things like you do so just be open to saying yes and trying things their way. i'm not saying you you do everything that they say but just be open to accept that some things are different and just try and talk to as many people as you can and then slowly by slowly you'll find yourself fitting in yes. and and you mentioned talking to as many people as you can. what kind of uh conversations or what kind of topics are quite common when you when people meet each other for the first time? i think people will obviously first of all ask your name and where you're from and what you're doing at the moment so you could say you're working or your students and then from there you can start talking about anything really your likes and dislikes um where you went last on holiday or you're planning to go for holiday just things like that and then general things like the weather I found out when you come to the uk and you speak about the weather people are very happy and everyone wants to talk to you so that could be like you know one of the topics you could use to talk to people. that's very true do you think um certain countries have have certain topics that they feel more familiar talking about? i think so because the part of kenya that they come from if you come there and start talking about food everyone will be very happy and they will be you know happy to talk to you about them. i lived in sweden for a while and when i spoke to people about coffee. they were very happy because i think they love coffee and i talk to them about their winter so different countries do have different topics that they prefer. okay thank you very much nancy thank yu for doing the speaking test. hank you so very very very nice how did it feel doing the speaking test after so many years? i got so nervous when it started i thought i was nervous before but after that i was more nervous. right was it sometimes when you hear the zoom um call saying um this test is starting now oh no it says uh this um this conversation is being recorded being recorded and was just like oh my god yes it's here now well you did um you did exceptionally well um incredible yeah i'm glad to hear that my guess is you've got a very very high standard of your english but um you've scored band nine um in the ielts test before and i think this test as well would be band nine i'm gonna have to go through the video and really watch it in detail oh wow there were a few mistakes but these mistakes were so marginal and had very little um effect on the flow of conversation and on my ability to understand what you were saying so just some just some small mistakes with things like you said slowly by slowly instead of maybe saying little by little i think you might have picked up on that i did some of them i could you know oh why did i say that that's quite common but it made perfect sense what you were trying to say there was also maybe a like a little bit of um sorry what you can hear now is the rain in scotland um let me know if it's too loud and i can always speak louder or repeat myself no it's okay actually okay all right good um so yeah and also maybe like a little bit of repetition in part two at the very beginning where you kept on saying thing you repeated things like if i go to the maldives i would be very happy um but apart from that it was a very very smooth um very impressive speaking test you've got an amazing very clear accent so you'd be getting banned nine for pronunciation there weren't any words that stood out that you pronounced incorrectly um you tend to really pronounce every single um syllable very clearly even and um i was a bit worried that sometimes that you that as a result you might struggle with things like consonant clusters which is words like breakfast in order to put the enough together some people say like breakfast yeah um and and i was kind of listening out because that's sometimes um something that stops people from getting banned nine but actually that that wasn't really yeah so that might be something that you'd hear um band-aid students making a mistake in but um might stop you from getting banned nine but that wasn't something that you struggled with at all um your pronunciation was incredibly clear your vocabulary also very very clear and very impressive straight from the beginning it was it was obvious that you could talk about any topic that i brought up you know whether it was pet animals or living in different countries or or your work you had the vocabulary there and and you were able to use precise vocabulary to really convey your meaning so things like access to facilities um your your phrasing like if i were to have a pet like which is just really good using that kind of conditional sentence um you were talking about how a pet can be better in terms of reducing stress um and then how cities tend to be busy so just like a lot of really nice chunks of language and and what i'll do is when i um edit this video i'll put a lot of those chunks of language at the top so people can can learn yeah i've seen some of your videos like that yeah yeah i didn't even know those were phrases that that could actually add you marks yes yeah yeah sometimes sometimes people have this kind of misconception that they have to use the very odd um idiosyncratic proverbs and idioms um things like it's raining cats and dogs and they kind of prioritize using a lot of those language but actually examiners are looking out for uh the smaller phrases that just show a precise subtle nuance and change in meaning and um you did that very well i think because you're so comfortable communicating in english oh nice thank you in fact i was i was hoping if i could ask you a little about about um about how you you got to such a high level of english and how it's possibly changed since living in london um i think for me growing up in kenya we had to learn english you know since you are young from the first day of kindergarten so they had to make sure that you are doing you know their pronunciation was good and we were beaten if you didn't achieve the marks that do i require physically yes physically and that was a way of disclaiming us when we were growing up and then when i got into high school they would introduce these books like uh shakespeare's merchant of venice and then we had other literature books that we were reading and they would come in the exam um so i think that's how i got to practice a lot of my english i also did a bit of acting in theater when i was still back in you know back in kenya so we would do acting for setbooks so these books that i'm talking about the literature books we would make plays out of them and then go from high school to high school just trying to get the the kids to understand the whole story and then when it comes to the exam they would be able to answer their questions the way they are supposed to so i think that was also good practice for me and i loved reading you know novels you know even watching movies that you know came in english i think that helped as well great and so you mentioned three quite quite kind of separate ways of learning there was this the kind of harsh school yeah there was the creativity with plays and then there was the reading and you if you imagined your a pie chart of your english which one do you think contributed the most um i think the school did and also reading because i used to read a lot since i was very young from about i don't know eight years old i would say i loved reading story books from you know that age and my mom was very good in buying me books every time i wanted them so i think that did contribute a lot and and all of those books being in english yes all of them in english right so even from the age of eight you were reading novels in english yeah great and um and so you'd already got band nine in the ielts test before you moved to london um have you felt that your your language abilities have changed or your accent has changed or anything like that um i don't think my accent has changed i think i still have my kenyan accent to be honest because i don't sound british at all when i speak but my vocabulary has increased you know has gotten better and i think i have improved because at work i can only speak in english because that's the language that we use here and then working in a medical um area like in the icu there's a lot of terms that we use and that's that becomes a part of you so i think that has helped me improve it it's probably great that you've actually got a job that very like relies very heavily on communication is that right as an icu unit nurse you're you're really having to communicate with a lot of your patients and and colleagues and you have to be precise in the things that you say yes yeah communication is very important so i really have to yes and um and and what about in your kind of daily life um because you're also studying um while you're in london have you found the um you feel capable of writing essays reading through textbooks giving class presentations yeah i do and you know we recently did an exam where i had to study a lot about academic writing and the referencing system which i never understood at all at the beginning because we don't have that back home but i i feel like i didn't have to struggle a lot all i had to do was read and understand what they were saying and i actually got very good marks from you know from reading and understanding so i think i don't have to struggle so i think i think that's good great um and actually um some members of the facebook group were very keen that i asked you a bit about um what it's like working in healthcare in the uk so a lot of them are actually doing the ielts test in order to get jobs um in different parts of the united kingdom and particularly in the nhs yeah um so could you tell me a bit about your experience working in healthcare in the uk um so when i moved here about four years ago i started working in a nursing home when i came here so that was private it wasn't nhs at all but it was really nice because it gives it gave me some kind of induction to the healthcare system in the uk where i had to learn a lot about if guarding and patients rights because everything works different from my country so it was it was very good so i came to understand that you know a lot of things i have to be very careful about how i address the patients there are rules i have to follow i can't just administer medication back home you know like we did back home without prescriptions so i think after that i decided to get my job in icu so when i moved to nhs it's also something totally different because uh at the nursing home i was just the only nurse at that shift you know during the shift but here in icu i'm i'm working together with other nurses during the shift and the doctors are always there because my patients are like critically ill but the the nhs i feel like the nhs gives a lot of support not financial but you know the other supports towards their staff where you always have someone with you and you feel if you feel like something is not right you can always talk to your manager or somebody else um who's going to help you with that so what and also i feel like there's a lot of chances for career progression right um yeah like i've been there for almost two years and i started my my university like six you know four months ago and i'm not paying for it so the hospital is taking care of all that so i feel like if you're a person who knows what you want and you're ambitious you can get ahead if you you know if you if you want to within the nhs system yes yes and what about when you did the transition from the nursing home to the icu unit was that easy enough to do um it was a bit challenging because i you know when you come to work as a nurse in the uk you come under a visa sponsorship which they call tier sponsorship so when i came the nursing home was sponsoring my visa and when i wanted to move to the nhs i had to discontinue that visa and then get a new one for my new you know from my new employer and that took me about i don't know four months yeah and you have to be very careful about when you give your resignation because you don't want to resign from your old job before you have all the papers for your new job so you have to be strategic about that like when you when you go for the interview you submit all the paperwork and apply for the visa and then when you get the visa you have to give your notice to your current employer and some of them want like a two-month notice so you have to figure out what to tell your new employer because you have the new visa already but you can't go to work for them because you have two months to still work for this employer yeah it's a logistical nightmare and i've heard it's a lot worse now um given the covid situation yeah there's a lot more of a kind of backlog and a lot more uncertainty with how long paperwork state takes to file and and get back to you and get all the appropriate signatures yeah i mean it can be challenging but people are still doing it so i feel it's still possible to do that yeah and what about um because you know we actually touched on this in the in the test but um moving to a new country for your work is is a is a huge change both kind of culturally and also in terms of kind of the experiences that you have how was that for you um i think when i moved to the uk it wasn't as bad for me because i i think i did mention i lived in sweden for a while so i moved to sweden in and when i went there it was like total shock because i was coming from kenya it was first time to leave my country and then i had to learn a new language on top of that but when i came to the uk i already spoke english my job was already there so all i needed to do was to report to work and in terms of culture i feel like you know sweden and england you know both of them are in europe so the cultures tend to be similar so it was actually very easy for me to adapt to living here but i've spoken to a few of my friends who moved from africa and from asia and then they came here it took them a couple of months just to actually get used to their life here but once you're there and like you said once you you know like i said when you have an open mind then things will get easier for you especially i think moving to a place like london that you know you like you've probably got colleagues like you mentioned from from africa from asia from all over the place and as as well as a lot of people that are being born in in england or you know even local to to where you're working and i my guess is it's very nice to have a real kind of international crowd yeah i really love that and that's i think that's why i love london very much because there's everyone from everywhere and you know meeting people from different places it's just it's just amazing and to be a part of that is really nice that's great to hear now nancy um for those of you who've watched this and really um resonate with your story uh how can they find out more about you and and follow your life in london um so i have a youtube channel where i talk about relocating to the uk as nurses or healthcare assistants and then i share my life about working in the uk as a nurse so my name um it's always nissiwangoi n-i-c-y and then one going and that's how i am on facebook or instagram so if anyone wants to ask me a question or just follow you know how it is to live in london as a nurse then they can just go there ah that's very kind of you i'm sure lots of people will yeah okay so thank you very much for coming and doing the speaking test with me today thank you thank you then Download 24.14 Kb. 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