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giving a guy directions who you've already trusted to think for himself.

Now, if he thinks badly, you can sack him. But trust him first. That is the

big thing.
Now, then, there is another traditional principle, the source of another

essay here called the principle of participation. Our whole lives have been

wrecked, often from childhood, because we have not been participants. There

had been too much of the parental thing, too much of the wrong kind of the

parental thing. We always wanted to belong, we always wanted to participate;

and there is going to be a constant tendency, which we must always defend

against, and that is to place in our service structure any group, AA as a

whole, the Conference, the Board of Trustees, committees, executives - to

place any of these people in absolutely unqualified authority, one over the

other. This is an institutional, a military, set-up - and God knows we

drunks have rejected institutions and this kind of authority, for our

purpose, haven't we?


So, therefore, how, as a practical matter, are we going to express this

participation. Right here in this conference it's burned in; in Article XII

you'll see this statement in the Conference Charter: nobody is to be set in

utter authority over anybody else. How do we prevent this?


The Trustees here, and the headquarters people here, are in a great minority

over you people. You have the ultimate authority over us. And you say, well

these folks are nicely incorporated, and we ain't; and they have the dough

legally, so have we got it? Sure, you got it. You can go home and shut the

dough off, can't you? You've got the ultimate authority but - we've got some

delegated authority. Now when you get in this Conference, you find that the

Trustees, and the Directors and the staffs have votes.
And many of you say, why is it; we represent the groups; why the hell

shouldn't we tell these people? Why should they utter one yip while we're

doing it? Oh, we'll let 'em yip, but not vote. Well, you see, right there we

get from the institutional idea to the corporate idea. And in the corporate

business world, there is participation in these levels. Can you imagine how

much stock would you buy in General Motors if you knew the president and

half the board of directors couldn't get into a meeting because they were on

the payroll? Or could just come in and listen to the out-of-town directors?

You'd want these people's opinions registered. And they can't really belong

unless they vote. This we have found out by the hardest kind of experience.

So therefore, the essay here on participation deals with the principle that

any AA servant in any top echelon of service, regardless of whether they're

paid, unpaid, volunteer or what, shall be entitled to reasonable voting

privileges in accordance with their responsibility.


And you good politicos are going to say, but these people here hold a

balance of power. Well, we qualified that in one way. We'll take the balance

of power away from them when it comes to qualifications for their own jobs

or voting in approval of their own actions. But the bulk of the work of this

Conference has to do with plans and policy for the future. So supposing that

among you Delegates there is a split. And supposing these people come in and

vote, which, by the way, they seldom do as a bloc, and they swing it one way

or the other on matters of future policy and planning; well, after all, why

shouldn't they? Are they any less competent than the rest of us? Of course

not. Besides these technical considerations, there is this deep need in us

to belong, to participate. And you can only participate on the basis of

equality - and one token of this is voting equality. At first blush, you

won't like the idea. But you'll have a chance to think about it.
One more idea: There came to this country some hundred years ago a French

Baron whose family and himself had been wracked by the French revolution, de

Tocqueville. And he was a worshipful admirer of democracy. And in those days

democracy seemed to be mostly expressed in people's minds by votes of simple

majorities. And he was a worshipful admirer of the spirit of democracy as

expressed by the power of a majority to govern. But, said de Tocqueville, a

majority can be ignorant, it can be brutal, it can be tyrannous - and we

have seen it. Therefore, unless you most carefully protect a minority, large

or small, make sure that minority opinions are voiced, make sure that

minorities have unusual rights, you're democracy is never going to work and

its spirit will die. This was de Toqueville's prediction and, considering

today's times, is it strange that he is not widely read now?


That is why in this Conference we try to get a unanimous consent while we

can; this is why we say the Conference can mandate the Board of Trustees on

a two-thirds vote. But we have said more here. We have said that any

Delegate, any Trustee, any staff member, any service director, - any board,

committee or whatever -- that wherever there is a minority, it shall always

be the right of this minority to file a minority report so that their views

are held up clearly. And if in the opinion of any such minority, even a

minority of one, if the majority is about to hastily or angrily do something

which could be to the detriment of Alcoholics Anonymous, the serious

detriment, it is not only their right to file a minority appeal, it is their

duty.
So, like de Tocqueville, neither you nor I want either the tyranny or the

majority, nor the tyranny of the small minority. And steps have been taken

here to balance up these relations.
Now, some of the other things cover topics like this, I touched on this: The

Conference acknowledges the primary administrative responsibility of the

Trustees. We have talked about electing trustees and yet primarily they are

a body of administrators. In a sense, it's an executive body, isn't it? Look

at any form of government. (Understand we're not a form of government, but

you have to pay attention to these forms). The President of the United

States is the only elected executive; all the rest are appointive, aren't

they, subject to confirmation by the Senate, which is the system we got here

- and this goes into that.
And then there is this question taken up in another essay. How can these

legal rights of the Trustees, which haven't been changed one jot or tittle

by the appearance of this Conference, if they've got the legal right to hang

on to your money and do as they dammed please, what's going to stop them?

Well, the answer is: Nobody has a vested interest. They have to be

volunteers always. They are amenable to the spirit of this Conference and

its power and its prestige -- and if they are not, there is a provision here

by which they can be reorganized; there is a provision in here by which they

can be censored - and you can always go home and shut off the money spigot.
So, the traditional power of this Conference and the groups is actually

superior to the legal power of the Trustees. That is the balance. But the

trustees as a minority some day, should this Conference get very angry and

unreasonable, say: Boys, we're going to veto you for the time being, we

ain't gonna do this - even as the President of the United States has the

veto, so will these fellows. You go home and think this over. We won't go

along. And if you give them a vote of no confidence, they can appeal to the

groups. These are the balances, see; this is interpretive, this has all been

implicit in our structure but we're trying to spell it out.
Well, there are others - There's a whole section on leadership, service

leadership from top to bottom, what it's composed of. In AA we wash between

great extremes. On the one side, we've got the infallible leader who never

makes any mistakes - and let us do just as he says. On the other side we

have a concept of leadership which goes and says: What shall I do? What

shall I do? Tell me, what time do it - I'm just a humble servant, not a

trusted one, just a humble one. The hell with either. Leadership in practice

works in between - and we spell that out. And so on.


This will give you an idea of what's cooking in the Twelve Concepts for

World Service. The last one which I haven't done deals with the Conference -

Article XII of the Conference charter. And you who recall it know that this

is several things. First of all, it's the substance of the contract the

groups made with the Board of Trustees at the time of St. Louis. And this

contract decrees that this body shall never be a government.


It decrees that we shall be prudent financially. It decrees that we shall be

keepers of the AA Tradition - and so on - so that it is in part a spiritual

document and in part a contract. And, God willing, because it is both

spiritual and contract, let it be for all time of our existence a sanctified

contract.
My own days of active service, like the sands in our last hourglass, are

running out. And this is good. We know that all families have to have

parents and we know that the great unwisdom of all parenthood is to try to

remain the parents of infants in adolescence and keep people in this state

forever. We know that when the parents have done their bit, and said their

pieces, and have nursed the family along, that there comes the point that

the parents must say: Now, you go out and try your wings. You haven't grown

up and we haven't grown up, but you have come to the age of responsibility

where, with the tools we are leaving you, you must try to grow up, to grow

in God's image and likeness.


So my feeling is not that I'm withdrawing because I'm tired. My feeling is

that I would like to be another kind of parent, a fellow on the sidelines.

If there is some breach in these walls which we have erected, some unseen

flaw or defect, of course all of us oldsters are going to pitch in for the

repairs. But this business of functioning in the here and now, that is for

the new generation.


May God bless Alcoholics Anonymous forever. And I offer a prayer that the

destiny of this society will ever be safe in the hearts of its membership

and in the conscience of its trusted servants. You are the heirs. As I said

at the opening the future belongs to you.


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++++Message 1655. . . . . . . . . . . . Grace Cultice Obituary (1948)

From: Lash, William (Bill) . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/12/2004 2:15:00 PM


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CHICAGO SECRETARY DIES SUDDENLY

From Chicago

She knew all about us and loved us anyway.

Grace Cultice, 57, was a blessed paradox-a non-alcoholic who spoke the

language of the alkies, an "outside" believer in Alcoholics Anonymous who

backed her faith with good works.

When two alcoholics got together eight years ago to form the first A.A.

group in Chicago, Grace was on hand to help. She's been helping ever since.

She gave those eight years willingly, eagerly, unselfishly. Indeed, she

literally gave her life.

Grace died in her Chicago apartment January 8 of a heart attack. She had

endured a long illness, but was thought to be recovering. Against medical

advice she had persisted in many of her duties as secretary and office

manager of the Greater Chicago group. She'd tried to slow down, but it was

next to impossible to keep her under wraps.

For two days her flower-banked casket lay in a Chicago mortuary. Thousands

came to mourn. Then the body was taken to her native Xenia, Ohio, for burial

by relatives.

Miss Cultice was a familiar figure in Chicago advertising circles when she

became interested in A.A. through friendship with the local group founders.

Often she acted as hostess at early meetings of three, four or a half dozen

members. She grew up with the Chicago group. Along the route to its present

5,000-plus membership, the need became pressing for a full-time secretary.

Grace took the job, ignoring the financial sacrifice.

Because she knew how alkies talk and think and act, she shepherded hundreds

into the ways of recovery. She was a genial "greeter" for A.A.s visiting

Chicago. On her last Christmas, cards came from A.A.s the world over.

Alcoholics have an inherent distaste for mawkishness. But none feels shame

for his tears for Grace, nor for his devastating sense of personal

loss.-E.B.


February 1948 AA Grapevine
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++++Message 1656. . . . . . . . . . . . Dr. Bob "In Memoriam" (1952)

From: Lash, William (Bill) . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/15/2004 2:22:00 PM


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November 1952 AA Grapevine
IN MEMORIAM
And In Thanks
Two years ago, on November 16th, 1950, R. H. S., died in Akron, Ohio. It was

Thursday, close to noontime, one week before what would have been his 71st

Thanksgiving Day.

It was fifteen years and five months after his own last drink...and it was

fifteen years and five months in which he had personally ministered as

friend and teacher and physician to 5,000 alcoholics.

To each of them he was simply "Doctor Bob." And to history he will be

"Co-founder of Alcoholics Anonymous." And to Bill he is "The Prince of

Twelfth Steppers"...and "The Rock Upon Which AA Is Founded"...and simply

"Smitty."

He met death serenely, for he had to the fullest given himself to life. He

left the rich gifts of simplicity and love and service.

We who have followed him in The Way Out give him thanks anew for the message

he so tirelessly carried. And we think this man who learned true humility

would most like the memorial that is still to come...those thousands now

sick and despairing who will yet find our way out of dilemma into

recovery…strengthened by the invisible hand of Doctor Bob...
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++++Message 1657. . . . . . . . . . . . Dr. Bob Announcement Of His Passing

(1950)


From: Lash, William (Bill) . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/15/2004 2:22:00 PM
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December 1950 AA Grapevine
Dr. Bob
The tragic news of Dr. Bob's death came after this issue of the Grapevine

had gone to press. No hastily written words can possibly describe the

feelings of the thousands of AAs who knew him personally. And only the

loving God who has been so merciful to us all can truly measure the

greatness of his contribution not only to AA but to all mankind. We shall

make here no mere listing of his devotions to AA. How in-adequate for a man

who is a co-founder of something that has meant so much to so many. But even

'Co-Founder' does not serve. For Dr. Bob was the rock on which AA is

founded. None who saw and heard him last summer at Cleveland will ever

forget his characteristic statement -- the last he made in public -- " --

love and service are the cornerstones of Alcoholics Anonymous!"

In loving tribute, the January issue of the Grapevine will be dedicated as a

Memorial to our beloved Dr. Bob.
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++++Message 1659. . . . . . . . . . . . Dr. Bob Quote

From: Lash, William (Bill) . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/16/2004 5:23:00 PM


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I have always heard this quote as being attributed to Dr. Bob:
"Carry the message. And if you must, use words."
Can anyone tell me where this Dr. Bob quote can be found? Thanks!
I found this other quote on a website attributed to St. Francis:
"Preach always. When necessary use words". We recognize the importance of

paying


attention to the substance of our message, but that is not enough. The

manner in which

we make that message known is as important as the message itself.
Just Love,

Barefoot Bill


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++++Message 1660. . . . . . . . . . . . Back to Basics - Compilation of

excerpts from Previous Posts

From: NMOlson@aol.com . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/17/2004 7:16:00 AM
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Friends,
The AA History Lovers list is getting so long that it is difficult if not

impossible to search the entire list. For example, when a question was asked

recently about Back to Basics I had forgotten that the subject was already

thoroughly covered on the list.


In an effort to clean up the list I am starting to combine posts on the same

subject. The post numbers will stay but the message will be deleted after

being combined in one message.
I am starting with Back to Basics. Some feel that this is not an appropriate

topic for the list, but I still think it is of interest to AA historians.


In order to avoid repetition the following are excerpts from the posts re

Back to Basics, usually not the entire message. I cannot verify the accuracy

of all the posts.
Nancy
On September 29, 2002, Katherine E wrote:
I was wondering if anyone had any information on the the development of the

movement Back to Basic and their connection to AA History. I was recently at

a conference where I met some Back to Basic advocates who where making some

questionable statements about how things were done in the early days. I was

wondering how valid this back to Basic movement is in regards to actual AA

program and it's history.


Ernest Kurtz responded:
From what I have seen and heard in well over two decades of study, the

so-called "Back to Basics" movement is an attempt to re-create the Oxford

Group as it existed in the mid-1930s. AA as we know it grew out of that,

partially by rejecting aspects of those teachings. Some, from


Henrietta Seiberling and James Houck on, have effectively tried to deny that

separation and to bring "A.A." back under those auspices.


The "Back to Basics" movement has many strengths and apparently helps many

people. But its relationship to Alcoholics Anonymous is similar to the

relationship of Judaism to Christianity.
Mary in Michigan wrote:
Here in Michigan we are using a book Call Back to Basic, by Wally P. This

Book has information about the development of the movement. In Michigan

Meetings are starting to use the back to basic back as a class for taking

the 12 steps. ... Here is a web site to check it

http://www.aabacktobasics.com/index.html
Jim McG wrote:
That we use the AA Big Book to teach the steps, makes the claim that we are

attempting to re-create the Oxford Group movement seem odd. We DO feature an

Oxford Group staple, a pamphlet called "How to Listen to God" in our

practicing the 11th step. This we use as a guide to practice "quiet time and

guidance." ,,, We also feature a simplfied "assets/liability" 4th step

inventory that is described on the page next to the resentments/fears/sex

thing in the Big Book.
Cliff B. in Texas wrote:
One of the things I have appreciated and enjoyed about this Group has been

the lack of controversy. But in the past few weeks, we have seen it begin

and this topic is one that really has no place in this Group.
Any student of the Big Book readily recognizes that there is a lot of stuff

that has been written in the "Back to Basics" manual that is not Alcoholics

Anonymous. With 63 years of time tested, experience proven success, no one

has approached the success that is realized when an alcoholic PRECISELY

follows the clear-cut directions that are outlined in the Basic Text for

Alcoholics Anonymous which are obviously divinely inspired. ... I have been

around long enough to see our Fellowship slip from: "Rarely have we seen a

person fail....." to seldom do we see a person recover. Let's get back to

the real Basics; the Basic Text for Alcoholics Anonymous which is titled,

"ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS."


______
When questions appeared again recently I combined some of the responses as

follows:
From: goldentextpro@aol.com [6]


NO! "Back to Basics" is not the original AA program, and it had nothing to

do with Akron. And I have to be emphatic about this.


First, read Dr. Bob and the Good Oldtimers, on the Frank Amos report of AA

in 1938, pp. 130-136. You will find a good description of the real first

program as employed by Dr. Bob Smith. There were no Steps. There was no

classroom. There was the Bible, a morning Quiet Time, religious devotionals,

prayer, no drunkalogs, church affiliation, and frequent hospital visits to

new prospects.


The "Back to Basics" approach, kicked up by Wally P., is an off-shoot of

what Clarence Snyder was doing in Cleveland post-1939. Clarence said that

his only two source books were the Big Book and the Good Book. Following the

Cleveland Plain Dealer's outstanding articles on AA, membership exploded in

Cleveland, and to keep up with it, and so that the program wouldn't get

garbled, Clarence decided to start group classroom-type education classes.

He would take the folks through the first nine steps. The last three, of

course, was the daily program. Prayer, Quiet Time, a daily inventory

utilizing the Four Absolutes (honesty, purity, unselfishness, and love) as

yardsticks, and helping others.


From: "Robert Stonebraker" [7]
A view of how Dr. Bob sponsored Earl Treat through Six-Step process, as it

was at that time (1937), can be found on page 292 of the Third Edition (263,

Fourth Edition) of the Big Book. ...
I have in possession a rather thick binder from an existing Akron Group

called: "Back To the 40's." The cover of which states: "Taking the 12 Steps

in 5 one hour classes." Briefly, the meeting is chaired by a reader and a

commentator as they "teach" the Twelve Step process in five classes by going

through the Big Book. The person who gave me this is very involved in Akron

AA history.


From: "Arthur" [8]
BtB advocates that so-called original' AA (as practiced in Akron) had a

remarkably high recovery rate no longer achieved today. They further claim

that 90-180 days of their meetings "takes us back to the 'original' program

that produced a 50-75% recovery rate." Somehow, someway, someone has

concluded that BtB is getting a 50-75% recovery rate and the rest of AA has

only a 5-10% recovery rate, depending on which study you read. According to

BtB, contemporary AA is supposed to be errant due to its lack of orthodoxy

relative to 'original' Oxford Group methodology and principles. Please don't

take my word on it. Visit their web site and draw your own conclusion based

on its content. ...


A possible source of BtB's assertion of an "early AA 75% recovery rate" may

derive from Dr Harry Tiebout's paper "Therapeutic Mechanism of Alcoholics

Anonymous." It was originally published in 1944 and later reprinted [in

1957] in "AA Comes of Age." On pg 310, it states "Alcoholics Anonymous

claims a recovery rate of 75 percent of those who really try their methods."

I'd suggest that the key words are "really try" not "75 percent." ... Later

in commenting about Bill W's spiritual experience (Bill is called Mr. "X")

Tiebout states "According to Alcoholics Anonymous experience the speed with

which the spiritual awakening takes place is no criterion of either depth or

permanence of cure. The religious leavening, however little at first, starts

the process; the program helps to bring it to a successful conclusion." The

1944 paper, I presume, would serve as a reputable description of AA's

program of Recovery in its "early days." Tiebout goes on to list a series of

numbers for the initial 7 years of AA: 5 recovered at the end of the 1st

year [1935];15 recovered at the end of the 2nd year [1936]; 40 recovered at

the end of the 3rd year [1937];100 recovered at the end of the 4th year

[1938]; 400 recovered at the end of the 5th year [1939]; 2000 recovered at

the end of the 6th year [1940]; 8000 recovered at the end of the 7th year

[1941]. Jack Alexander's article in Sat. Eve. Post. It should be fairly

obvious that the figures cited as "recovered" are membership estimates.

While certain locales may have made claims of this or that success rate,

there is no way anyone can verify those claims with reasonable confidence.

The data to do so just doesn't exist. What appears to get used most in these

scenarios are statements of articles of faith based on anecdotal assertion

and sincerity. From a membership of 5 in 1935 to an international membership

in excess of 2,100,000 today, perceived issues in success rates seem far

more premised on imagination than information.
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++++Message 1661. . . . . . . . . . . . Letter from Ruth Hock to Bill Wilson

dated November 10, 1955

From: NMOlson@aol.com . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/17/2004 10:47:00 AM
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A photocopy of this letter was give to me by Rich B. in Minneapolis during

the 2000 international convention. Across the top in Bill's handwriting it

says "Ruth Hocks recollections."
I originally posted it in several parts hoping to keep it as close to the

original as possible. To clean up the list I am posting it here as one

document. I have made no effort to correct punctuation or grammatical

errors, so you language purists will just have to exercise tolerance.


Nancy
Nov. 10, 1955
Dear Bill:
As I wrote to you last week it is difficult for me to get a long period of

uninterrupted time together to put down my recollections of those old A.A.

days - but I have about two hours - so here goes.
Let me say first that I do not guarantee the accuracy of any dates I may use

until I have the opportunity to check one thing against the other which I am

willing to do if it ever proves necessary - neither do I insist that my

memory is absolutely accurate - it will be easier if I can just sort of

meander along for present purposes.
As I remember it you had been sober just a little over a year when I first

met you. I think I went to work for Honor Dealers in about January of 1936.

The job I applied for was as Secretary to sort of a distributorship for a

group of service stations - naturally I had no idea what a surprise fate had

in store for me and what a change it would make in my personal life, in my

relations to and my opinions of my fellow man.


I walked into the Honor Dealers office in Newark, N.J. on Williams Street

one Monday morning - was interviewed by Hank - and started to work

immediately that morning. My immediate impression of Hank was that he had a

vibrant personality - that he was capable of strong likes and dislikes -

that he seemed to be possessed of inexhaustible energy - and that he liked

to make
quick decisions.


You arrived shortly thereafter Bill bringing with you an aura of quiet warm

friendliness - of slow deliberate decisions - and at least I thought at the

time, not much interest really in the Service Station business.
By the end of that very first day I was a very confused female for, if I

remember correctly, that first afternoon you had a visitor in your office

and I think it was Paul Kellogg. Anyway, the connecting door was left wide

open and instead of business phrases what I heard was fragments of a

discussion about drunken misery, a miserable wife, and what I thought was a

very queer conclusion indeed - that being a drunk was a disease. I remember

distinctly
feeling that you were all rather hard hearted because at some points there

was roaring laughter about various drunken incidents. Fortunately I liked

you both immediately - I am not too easily frightened - and you were paying

$3.00 more per week than I had been getting - so I was willing to give it a

try.
You will remember with me, I know, that in those days and for several years

to come, we talked about "drunks" and not "alcoholics" and therefore I use

those terms here.
The activity of Honor Dealers, as I remember it, was never of paramount

importance it seemed to me after I began to know most of you original men,

that it was only a means to an end - that end being to help a bunch of

nameless drunks. Having come from a thrifty German family I know what I

thought if you two would spend as much energy and thought and enthusiasm on

Honor Dealers as you did on drunks you might get somewhere. That would be

hard to prove either way and actually I've never known whether the original

premise of Honor Dealers was sound.


Anyway I soon stopped caring whether Honor Dealers was successful or not and

became more and more interested in each new face that came along with the

alcoholic problem and caring very much whether they made the grade or not.

All of you made me feel as though I were a very worthwhile person in my own

right and very important to you which in turn made me want
to always give my best to all of you. To me that is part of the secret of

the success of A.A. - the generous giving of oneself to the needs of the

other.
Well - the activities of Honor Dealers slowly but surely declined and there

was more and more correspondence with drunks and more of them showing up in

the office. In those days it was part of the procedure, if the prospect was

willing to go along, to kneel and pray together - all of you who happened to

be there. To me, drunkenness and prayer were both very private activities

and I sure did consider all of you a very revolutionary lot - but such

likable and interesting revolutionaries!
Hank put a good bit of thought and effort into Honor Dealers but whether his

ideas had real merit or whether there was not enough prolonged effort or

whether it was just a poor time for that kind of an idea I was not capable

of judging then nor am I now. I only know that within about a year finances

were precarious enough to move us into a tiny office in the same building

and even then I was front man to explain to the superintendent why the rent

wasn't paid on time and the telephone bill, etc. Payday was an indefinite

affair indeed.


I am somewhat confused about the timing of the move into the small Newark

office because now that I think about it I remember that the book work was

done in the large office.
Anyway, early in my association with you, Bill, you began to dictate letters

to Doc Smith. You never liked to dictate to a shorthand note book - you

always dictated directly as I typed. In the amazing way these things often

happen, since word of what you fellows were doing in New York and by that

time Doc Smith in Akron was simply spread vocally from mouth to mouth,

inquiries began to float in from amazing distances and some of these you


asked me to answer in my own fashion. That is, to refer them to the closest

"educated drunk." "Educated" of course in the sense that they knew something

of this new possibility of an answer to alcoholism.
Somewhere during those first months I also first met Doc Smith who gave

everyone a feeling of great serenity - peace with himself and God - and an

abounding wish to share what he had found with others. Somewhere along in

there John Henry Fitzhugh Mayo also appeared (Offhand I have no idea of the

dates) with his warm sense of humor and the all abiding wish to give to

other
drunks what he too had found. This you all had in common to an exciting and

unbelievable degree.
During that first year at least I don't think I ever attended a meeting, but

through your dictation, Bill, through all I heard at the office and through

the letters I was answering myself in your behalf I began to absorb an

understanding of what it was all about and what you were trying to do and I

became aware that the possibilities of writing a book were being discussed.

Many of you thought it was an absolute necessity because even then the

original idea was often distorted in the hundreds of word of mouth

discussions. Its original basic simplicity was often completely confused

beyond comprehension and besides it was becoming more and more impossible to

fully expound the idea satisfactorily in letter after letter to various

inquirers. Also, especially to the advertising type of man, the spread of

the idea was going much too slowly and would become a sensation overnight if

only put out in book form!!
So far as I know there was never any doubt that you were the one to write

it, Bill, and I know that you spent endless hours discussing its general

form with everyone who would listen or offer an idea - especially with Doc

Smith, Fitz and Hank. As soon as you began to feel you had at least a

majority agreement you began to arrive at the office with those yellow

scratch pads sheets I came to know so well. All you generally had on those


yellow sheets were a few notes to guide you on a whole chapter! My

understanding was that those notes were the result of long thought on your

part after hours of discussion pro and con with everyone who might be

interested. That is the way I remember first seeing an outline of the twelve

steps.
As I look at it today the basic idea of each chapter of the book and the

twelve steps is still essentially today what you scribbled on the original

yellow sheets. Of course there were thousands of small changes and rewrites

- constant cutting or adding or editing but there are only two major changes

made that I remember, both fought out in the office when you and Hank and

Fitz and I were present.


The first had to do with how much God was going to be included in the book

itself and the 12 steps. Fitz was for going all the way with God, you were

in the middle, Hank was for very little and I - trying to reflect the

reaction of the non-alcoholic was for very little too. The result of this

was the phrase "God as you understand Him," which I don't think ever had

much of a negative reaction anywhere. We were unanimous that day and you got

a greenlight everywhere you showed that typewritten copy including Doc Smith

and the Akron contingent where a copy of everything was sent for O.K. or

criticism.
The only other major change I remember during the actual writing of the book

was that originally it was directly written to the prospective alcoholic,

that is -- "You were wrong" -- "You must" -- "You should" and after a big

hassle, this was changed to read -- "We were wrong" -- "We must" -- "We

should" -- etc." This was quite a job because by the time this major

revision was decided on most of the book had been finished in its first

draft at least and each chapter as well as the 12 steps had been slanted

toward
"you" instead of "We" to begin with.

At this time I had still attended very few meetings but I know that the

office confabs and final decisions were only made after the aforementioned

hours of discussion with all who cared to take part in them with you so that

the majority opinion of all who attended meetings at that time was reflected

in the final decisions.
During all this time, of course, there was plenty of discussion about a name

for the book and there were probably hundreds of suggestions. However, I

remember very few --"One Hundred Men" - "The Empty Glass" - "The Dry Way" -

"The Dry Life" - "Dry Frontiers" - "The Way Out" - This last was by far the

most popular. Alcoholics Anonymous had been suggested and was used a lot

among ourselves as a very amusing description of the group itself but I

don't believe it was seriously considered as a name for the book. More later

on this.
By the time the book was mimeographed mostly for distribution in an effort

to raise money to carry on and get the book published. There was constant

discussion about detail changes with seemingly little hope for unanimous

agreement so it was finally decided to offer the book to Tom Uzzell for

final editing. It had been agreed, for one thing, that the book, as written,

was too long but nobody could agree on where and how to cut it. At that

point it was still nameless because Fitz had reported that the selected name

of "The Way Out" was over patented. I remember that during an appointment

with Tom Uzzell, we discussed the various name possibilities and he

[handwritten insert: Tom Uzzell] immediately - very firmly and very

enthusiastically - stated that "Alcoholics Anonymous" was a dead wringer

both from the sales point of view because it was "catchy" and because it

really did describe the group to perfection. The more this name was studied

from this point of view the more everybody agreed and so it was decided.

Uzzell cut the book by at least a third as I remember it and in my opinion

did a wonderful job on sharpening up the context without losing anything at

all of what you were trying to say, Bill, and the way you said it. I really

cannot remember who originally thought up the name "Alcoholics Anonymous".

[Handwritten insert which appears to read "Joe Worden" and a reference to a

handwritten footnote which appears to read "Joe Worden ... an AA member who

just couldn't stay sober." It does not look like Bill's handwriting.]


The financing of the book is quite difficult for me to remember, that is,

what happened when. Originally, of course, the work was done on Honor Dealer

time. In other words what salaries were paid came from Honor Dealer

transactions, and the paper, the pencils, the office, the typewriter, the

phone, etc. belonged to Honor Dealers. Let me make it clear that the members

of Honor Dealers were never cheated in any way they were always promptly

served - it's only that what might have been a worthwhile idea for a group

of service stations just didn't pan out.


When the income from Honor Dealers finally dwindled away completely -

finances were a real problem. At this point there was universal agreement

(except in Cleveland) that the book was a necessity and that what you had

done on it up to that time was extremely satisfactory both in concept and

execution. So the only problem was how to get enough money to finish it and

get it published. You went to one of the large book publishers about an


advance - and as I remember it you were offered One Thousand Dollars with a

rather minute royalty on each book published. Hank, (I think) then came up

with the idea of selling stock to finance the writing of the book and to

publish it. Thus - Works Publishing Co. was born - and the book stock idea

set up and forms printed. There was great optimism about the ease with which

this stock could be sold by you and Hank and Wally von Arx who was active in

this phase of the situation. That dream was not to be fulfilled because for

the most part selling a share of Works Publishing Co. stock for $25.00 was

like pulling teeth. Enough stock was sold in the original enthusiastic

reaction of a few to keep us going on an extremely minimum basis for a while

and then sales came to a complete halt and there we were back where we

started.
The paradox of this is the fact that if enough stock had been sold and the

book carried through to a conclusion on this basis, the stockholders would

have had a fine return indeed for their original investment. However all

things happen for the best and this kind of private profit would probably

have been a perpetual thorn in the A.A. side.


You then decided to approach Mr. Rockefeller and were able to do so through

various contacts you had built up through the years. This resulted in the

Rockefeller dinner which in turn resulted in a minimum pledge which finally

resulted in the book being carried to a conclusion and finally published by

the Cornwall Press.
Unfortunately I am not very good at getting across the spirit of fun, the

real enjoyment of life, the cheerful acceptance of temporary defeat, the

will to keep trying, the eternal effort to keep everybody satisfied, which

made these years so very worth while and so soul satisfying. In this

paragraph I am describing particularly my own reactions, but I know that you

will agree and so would everyone else who had any share in it. Even the


altercations and disagreements of which there were many were carried on with

a basic will to reach a compromise at least - therefore a compromise was

always possible and always reached amicably.
Naturally, when the book was finally rolling off the press the feeling was

that our troubles were over which turned out to be far from the case. It was

agreed that the book needed to be advertised and a date was finagled for a

member of A.A. on "We The People". Morgan Ryan agreed to appear anonymously

and did a good job with his three minutes while we all listened
breathlessly on the radio. As I remember it his talk was slanted at Doctors

and to back him up we had mailed out thousands of postal cards to a selected

list of Doctors to reach them in time to get them to listen to the broadcast

and to tell them how to get a copy of the book. We had an assembly line all

ready to pack and mail the books when the orders came rolling in - and then

we waited. I don't think more than four cards were returned at all and the

only one that made an impression on me was the first one that came in - an

order for six books - C.O.D. There was great jubilation that morning -

naturally we though we were in. We simmered down to as close to gloom as I

ever remember we got in the next few days over the few replies and were

really practically squashed flat when the package of six books was returned

marked "no such address". I'm afraid none of us appreciated for a while the

humor of whoever that joker was.
By this time we were at the Vesey Street office and that address was a

compromise too. Since I lived in New Jersey I didn't want to work in New

York at all - on the other hand you had always wanted to have the office

near Grand Central Station - so we settled on Vesey St. For quite a while,

about a year at least, there were just the two of us handling

correspondence, packing books, and whatever there was to be done and all the

while the
financial struggle to keep the thing going at all continued. The Liberty

magazine article was published and for the first time we began to find a

stirred up interest in the form of [letters]. Each letter was answered

individually and although the book was mentioned we tried to get across the

fact that it was not necessary to purchase the book and in each case the

individual was referred to whatever group or individual A.A. closest to him



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