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>Subject: RE: [AAHistoryLovers] Circle and Triangle >lawsuit > >This dropping out resulted in NY stopping the use >of the Circle and Triangle as symbol of "official >literature." IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3911. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Fulton Oursler Article From: ricktompkins . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/3/2006 8:28:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Thanks for the posting, Bill---Fulton Oursler beautifully recognized our "language of the heart." When was the article written and where was it published? About Morris Markey, I've heard he was an AA member. The Sept. '39 Liberty article drew a paltry 800 inquiries because the Alcoholic Foundation address didn't accompany it (and it took a search effort by its readers!). A correction came with the March '41 Saturday Evening Post and its watershed 8,000 inquiries --the Post staff most likely took notice of Markey's 1939 piece...
initially become more interested in our fledgling Society of ex-drunks after the 1938 Rockefeller dinner, following the 'buzz' around NYC boardrooms leading up to the launch of the Big Book. The nudge to Markey and Liberty from Dr. Towns shows me that Towns utilized his influence for the benefit of AA beyond his large purchase of Works Publishing, Inc. stock.
means, saved a gift from Oursler, a beautiful Japanese print and silk scarf that was contributed to the AA Archives from Chicago AA in 1996 (through a grand-nephew of Racine, Wisconsin). Silkworth's letter desk may be all that remains on GSO Archives display from that transfer, but the gifts speak volumes of the Oursler-Silkworth friendship. Along a different line of AA history, who were the Reader's Digest editors that nixed an article about AA (a non-starter for its readers) around the same time as the Liberty feature? That's a story of a publication that eventually recognized its error of omission... Best to all, Rick T., Illinois IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3912. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: The reading of "How it Works" at the beginning of meeti... From: Shakey1aa@aol.com . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/3/2006 10:39:00 AM
Denver in March 1940 or did Mort find AA from the book and then go to meet Kay Miller and the LA Mother Group when he arrived in LA? See Pg 266 of "Pass it On" for the answer.
Shakey Mike Gwirtz [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3913. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: "Qualification" From: sbanker914@aol.com . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/3/2006 1:23:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Comments from Susan B., Chris Mahl, Woody (Robert Woodson) in Akron, Mitchell K., Li Lightfoot, Jim Blair, Rick Clowater, Sherry C. Hartsell, Tom White, Carole Seddon, and Glenn Chesnut: - - - johnpublico (keller of ociofcharlotte.com) wrote: Lawrence Block, in his Matthew Scudder detective series set in NY City, uses "qualification" and "qualifying" in apparent reference to an AA speaker's story. - - - NEW YORK CITY (BUT NOT WYOMING) From: sbanker914@aol.com (sbanker914 at aol.com) It has been my experience that "qualifications" are the most common form of AA meetings in NYC. And, yes, a qualification is the telling of the speaker's "experience, strength and hope" for about 20 minutes. Most commonly, the qualification is followed by a "show of hands," where members of the meeting share in response to the speaker's "story." I live in Wyoming in the summertime, and this format is mostly unknown in meetings there. Even in New Jersey where I currently live, a "speaker meeting" is that meeting more commonly known as a "3-speaker meeting" where there is no response time from the members. Since I have been attending NYC meetings for almost 19 years, I am most content and comfortable with this format.
OR NEW JERSEY) From: "chris mahl" (chrismahl at gmail.com) Here in New York City, the terms 'qualification' and 'qualifying' are used everyday. I started in Massachusetts and New Jersey and didn't recall ever hearing it before I moved to New York City in 1988.
(wdywdsn at sbcglobal.net) John, Those terms are definitely still is use here in Akron, Ohio...the portion of a speaker's lead prior to his or her getting sober is referred to as "qualifying"...sometimes you hear it said that a lead is all "qualifying" meaning that there is very little said about the program or life in sobriety.
speaker has not "qualified," or shown to the audience that he too is an alcoholic and given grounds for the audience to relate to his or her story. I'm a firm believer that each of us has, in their own way, "qualified" for our seats at the meeting. I hope this helps you to understand the use and perhaps to help gauge the spread of the term used in the active sense "to qualify". Keep your powder dry, Woody in Akron - - - CLEVELAND From: "Mitchell K." (mitchell_k_archivist at yahoo.com)
took people through their steps they "qualified" (told their story) to him as a prelude to the First Step. I've heard the term qualification or qualified in reference to someone telling their story at a meeting, with their sponsor or on a 12 Step call in quite a few places over the years. - - - SAN FRANCISCO From: Li Lightfoot (li_lightfoot at yahoo.com)
San Francisco Bay Area at present but we also use "sharing" at a meeting to mean the same thing.
- - - ONTARIO From: James Blair (jblair at videotron.ca)
at each meeting will "qualify" himself as a alcoholic by telling a bit of his story. I think this is the only province in Canada where this is done.
From: "Rick Clowater" (clowaters at rogers.com)
other areas but I do know that here in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada that the chairperson "qualifies" as an alcoholic at the beginning of meetings. I suspect also that this is the same throughout the Ottawa Valley area. Not sure if this helps, but the first opportunity I have had to reply to anything on this GREAT site. Thank you all for my sobriety Rick Clowater Uptown Group (Monday Night) Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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