His original device submission ("Per fess rayonny sable and gules, in base a fox sejant guardant argent.") was returned by Laurel in January, 2003, for conflict with the badge of Anne Whitewolf ("(Fieldless) A wolf sejant argent."). His first resubmission ("Gules, a sheaf of arrows within an annulet argent.") was returned by Laurel in February, 2004, for conflict with Aeddan Ivor ("Gules, a sheaf of three arrows argent fletched vert marked sable, a chief embattled argent.")