Haus Charlottenburg - Resub Appeal of Kingdom Return of Household Name & Resub Appeal of Kingdom Return of Badge
Vert, within an annulet of four points set on the outer edge argent, an escallop inverted Or.
This submission is to be associated with Martelle von Charlottenburg & Eric von Charlottenburg
Client wishes to appeal returned household name, as "Charlottenburg" has been registered with the College of Arms since February, 1984 via Atlantia, as well as in May of 1986 (the submitter herself).
In German, "von" is a preposition meaning "from" or "of" see registered example below:
Halsstern,Haus von: this household name was registered to Manfred Albrecht Halsstern in may of 1997 (via the East). A blanket permission to conflict is included in the submission package.
Some grounds for the appeal needs to be provided but none seems to be present. However, as this is an appeal of Kingdom return, it must be passed up to Laurel.
Per Metron Ariston: To evaluate this some hint of the submission history and reasons stated for return and that is not present here. The household name as Haus Charlottenburg appeared on the November, 2010, Internal Letter of Intent with the following notes:
"The name of Martelle von Charlottenburg was registered through Atlantia in May, 1986. The name of Eric von Charlottenburg was registered through Atlantia in February, 1984. The only documentation provided was the previous registration of the place name for both submitters. Given recent rulings additional documentation may be required to support the use of Haus + a place name as a German household name equivalent. It should be noted that the forms specifically requested that this household name be associated with the badge which was returned by Golden Dolphin in October, 2010, for stylistic issues." That household name submission was returned by Golden Dolphin in November, 2010, as follows:
"The only documentation provided for the household name was the previous registration of the submitters’ Society names more than two decades ago and there are several problems with the name as submitted. Laurel Office precedents have specifically noted that, while there was some evidence for Haus used with a place name, it appeared always to be used with a preposition and article. Changing the structure of the name is not possible since the submitters forbade major changes to the name and the addition of the prepositional element would be a major change. Apart from that, documentation is required for Charlottenburg as a period place name.
Commentary noted that the Charlottenburg apparently referred to in the submitters’ registered names, was actually not founded until around 1695, well after our period. Without some evidence for a place bearing that name in period, even the form Haus zum Charlottenburg is likely not registerable under current rules, although they might appeal to the Grandfather Clause since the word is used as a place name in their registered personal names."
That gave the best advice --- and documentation --- I could provide based on the precedents that had been set in several recent German household names.
Adding a preposition and appealing to the Grandfather clause might give the name a shot at registration even though the location was not founded until 1695. Alternatively some documentation for German household names without the preposition and a German locative resembling Charlottenburg dating to at least the grey area would give grounds for appeal. Unfortunately, I cannot help with that as I spent quite some time in November of last year trying to find an unambiguously pre-1650 Charlottenburg to no avail. As for the badge, this is not and cannot be an appeal as this design was never previously submitted. The badge returned in October, 2010, was had an additional four minor points not present on the current submission. (See the image attached to this email.) That submission was itself a resubmission from a completely different badge submission (“Vert, a pair of arms counterembowed and interlaced maintaining a flanged mace inverted bendwise sinister and a pair of scissors bendwise points to chief Or.”) returned by Laurel in February, 2009, for conflict with Gregory Blount (“Azure, two arms in armor, counterembowed and interlaced Or.”). So, if this badge is sent up to Laurel, it should be noted as a resubmission to Laurel, not a new submission and no fee paid. The internal Letter of Intent noted "If this is registered, they wish to release their joint badge registered through Atlantia in September, 2005 (“Vert, a mascle argent within a bordure Or.”) Please note that the submitters’ blazon, which had referred to the surrounding charge as “an annulet of eight points” did not note the fact that the points were not all the same size but differed in amplitude in a manner similar to the variance in a compass star." That badge submission was returned by Golden Dolphin in October, 2010, with the blazon as "Vert, an escallop inverted within an annulet of four greater and four lesser points on the outer edge Or." and the following explanation: "The original blazon, which had referred to the surrounding charge as “an annulet of eight points” did not indicate that the points were not all the same size but differed in amplitude in a manner similar to the variance in a compass star.
The base charge is something between a compass star (which would have the rays meet in a sharp angle not a circle) and an annulet indented on the outer edges (which would have the rays meet in a sharp angle and have all the rays the same size) and a compass star nowy. None of these could be supported by period sources and commentary skewed strongly to the view that the charge was not reproducible solely from its description and recognizable solely from its appearance as required by the Society’s heraldic regulations. Moreover, alternate blazons which would redraw this to “Vert, on a compass star Or a roundel vert charged with an escallop inverted Or” would violate the Society’s current simplicity rules which bar charges on charges from being themselves charged." While the submitters have simplified the outer element (which is why it is a resubmission but not an appeal), I do not see that they have resolved the reproducibility issue.
However, as noted, the submitters have an absolute right to appeal so, if they desire to appeal from the kingdom decision, even if current commentary cannot find supporting documentation for the household name, it may have to be sent up to the College of Arms for adjudication with or without the support of the Atlantian CoH. As to the badge, as noted previously, it is not an identical badge but one which is blazonably different and so would not be considered eligible for appeal under our current administrative protocols. A fact which I suspect that neither the submitters and possibly not their consulting herald realized.
Form (personal name + occupational byname): many Middle Mongolian names were composed of a personal name and an epithet, which could be an occupation. Middle Mongolian personal names could be formed from names of animals, colors, personal traits, other assorted nouns, and even verbs. Names of occuations were often formed by adding the denominal noun or name of agent suffix -chi to a noun (de Rachewiltz, p 994, 1002), e.g. tölge 'omen' + chi = tölgechi 'diviner, soothsayer'. Some examples of occupations used as epithets or bynames in the 13th century "Secret History of the Mongols" include 'quiverbearer', 'cook, steward, and 'chamberlain' (de Racheqiltz, p236).
Naran: 'sun' is frequently used in various medieval texts, including the 13th century "Secret History of the Mongols" (de Rachewiltz, pp.828, 847, 955). is attested as both a male and female name in the 1345 "Kitab Majmu' Turjuman Turki wa-'ajami wa-Mug'ali" (Rybatzki, p642) and in the diminutive form in the 15th-16th century Muqaddimat al-Adab (Rybatzki, p642). There is no reason to think would not have been used as a personal name prior to 1600.
Numuchi: 'bow' is attested in many medieval sources, including "Yiyu" (Apatoczky, p122). meant 'bow-maker' or 'archer' (Rybatzki, p637), and is constructed by adding the occupational suffix <-chi>. Given the importance of archery in medieval Mongolian culture, is a plausible occupational byname or epithet meaning 'bow-maker- or 'archer'.
Works cited: [note: [c] and [c-caron] are variously used in these sources to represent the [ch] sound in Middle Mongolian.
Apatoczky, Akos Bertalan, 2006. Yiyu. The Deciphering of a Sixteenth Century Sino-Mongolian Glossary. Doctoral dissertation, Eötvös Loránd University.
Rachewiltz, Igor de. 2004. The Secret History of the Mongols: A Mongolian Epic Chronicle of the Thirteenth Century. Leiden: Brill.
Rybatzki, Volker. 2006. Die Personennamen und Titel der Mittelmongolischen Dokumente: Eine lexikalische Untersuchung, Doctoral habilitation, University of Helsinki
