Gonzaga Debate Institute 2010 Pointer/Gordon/Watts/Samuels Turkey Neg



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Withdrawal is unpopular with the senate, due to Obama’s flip flop on military deployment

MacAskill et al 9, (Ewen MacAskill , Washington, Richard Norton-Taylor and Nicholas Watt, The Guardian London Edition December 3, 2009, Thursday, Afghanistan: Obama's friends and enemies line up to hit out at withdrawal date: President faces struggle to sell $30bn plan to Congress as Democrats, Republicans and UK military question strategy) WDK

Obama's new Afghanistan plan met widespread skepticism yesterday from both Democrats and Republicans who challenged him over the troop escalation and the planned date for the start of withdrawal. US allies, in particular British military commanders, also questioned the wisdom of setting a withdrawal date and described US projections for expanding the Afghan army and police as optimistic. Obama sent the secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, the defence secretary, Robert Gates, and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, Mike Mullen, to Congress yesterday as part of a charm offensive. But Democrats and Republicans on the Senate armed services committee challenged Obama.



Republicans find many logical fallacies within withdrawal plans, Afghanistan as the empirical example

MacAskill et al 9, (Ewen MacAskill , Washington, Richard Norton-Taylor and Nicholas Watt, The Guardian London Edition December 3, 2009, Thursday, Afghanistan: Obama's friends and enemies line up to hit out at withdrawal date: President faces struggle to sell $30bn plan to Congress as Democrats, Republicans and UK military question strategy) WDK

Obama's security team. The Republican John McCain described the plan as "logically incoherent". He said it made no sense to announce a date. "That gives the wrong impression to our friends, it's the wrong impression to give our enemies." The opposition on Capitol Hill underlined the hard sell that lies ahead for Obama as he needs congressional approval for the $30bn plan. He announced he was to send 30,000 extra troops, bringing the US total to 100,000, while also setting July 2011 as the date for the start of US withdrawal, though with no end date fixed.


Republicans dislike military withdrawal, preferring uninterrupted troop movements by the president

Yan 10, (Editor at Xianshian News Online, U.S. Republicans blast Obama's Afghanistan withdrawal date, http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2010-06/28/c_13372358.htm) WDK

In this political climate, debate rages over which branch of government ought to control the military. Republicans generally favor a strong Executive capable of conducting war without congressional interference.' Democrats tend to favor a reserved Executive unable to use military force in most instances without congressional consent.'' In support of these views, each party has claimed the high ground as the true guardian of the Constitution. The left claims to be protecting the Constitution's separation of powers.' The Right claims fidelity to the Constitution's understanding of the President as commander in chief."

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Plan would divide his base—Dems want Incirlik Air Force Base

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Democrats torn over Turkey resolution - TheHill.com, http://thehill.com/homenews/news/13384-democrats-torn-over-turkey-resolution, By Jackie Kucinich - 10/17/07 08:26 AM ET



Senior House Democrats, including House Armed Services Committee Chairman Ike Skelton (Mo.), have begun a campaign to oppose a resolution that would condemn Turkey for the Armenian genocide that occurred during World War I. Skelton and Rep. Solomon Ortiz (D-Texas) asked their colleagues on Oct. 11 to sign a letter to Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) objecting to the resolution, arguing its passage could harm U.S. security interests in the Middle East. The non-binding resolution would require the president to call the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians between the years 1915 and 1923 “genocide.” The House Foreign Affairs panel passed the resolution 27-21 on Oct. 10. “The government of Turkey, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, eight former Secretaries of State, and the three former Secretaries of Defense have warned us that congressional recognition of genocide claims will lead to a review by Turkey of the entire U.S.-Turkey relationship,” Skelton wrote. “Over half the cargo flown into Iraq and Afghanistan comes through Incirlik Air Base,” the letter continued. “Additionally, the U.S. military’s use of Incirlik Air Base will be an invaluable component to a successful and safe redeployment of our troops when the time comes.” 

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Withdrawing from Incirlik would be a win for Pelosi—It has been on her agenda for years

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Democrats torn over Turkey resolution - TheHill.com, http://thehill.com/homenews/news/13384-democrats-torn-over-turkey-resolution, By Jackie Kucinich - 10/17/07 08:26 AM ET



Pelosi and Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), longtime human rights supporters, both favor the resolution. Hoyer told reporters on Tuesday that he hoped a vote could take place before Nov. 16, although he said he would confer among other Democrats first.   “[Democrats] seem more interested in declaring an Armenian genocide than then they are interested in stopping funding for the war. This could almost be Terri Schiavo,” Rep. Tom Davis (R-Va.) said.       Skelton and Ortiz are not the only Democrats concerned about the vote. Pelosi ally Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) will hold a press conference with four other Democrats on Wednesday to try and persuade their leadership to keep the legislation from coming to the House floor. Democratic Reps. Alcee Hastings (Fla.), Robert Wexler (Fla.), Steve Cohen (Tenn.), and John Tanner (Tenn.) will also participate in the news conference “This happened a long time ago. I don’t know if it was a massacre or a genocide,” said Murtha, who chairs the House Appropriations Defense subcommittee. “But we’ve got to deal with today’s world.” Murtha said he had discouraged Pelosi from bringing the bill to a vote six months ago. “Turkey is a valuable ally,” Murtha said, noting he had helped lead the fight against the resolution in 1987 as well. “Thirty percent of our material goes through Turkey.” Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.) on Tuesday also voiced her opposition to the resolution, calling it “highly destabilizing.” Despite the growing opposition, Pelosi has her allies. Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Tom Lantos (D-Calif.) strongly backs the bill, a reversal from his prior stance. In 2000, he said that “Saddam Hussein will be the prime beneficiary of this legislation.” Lantos’s office did not return a call for comment. Turkish officials have said the resolution would harm relations between Turkey and the United States. Turkey acknowledges that hundreds of thousands of Armenians died as modern Turkey grew out of the crumbling Ottoman Empire, but it contends the killings were part of a civil war and that atrocities were committed on both sides.
Plan is a win for Obama—it reverses Bush’s aggressive foreign policy

Kevin Tuma 4-2 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-creamer/ten-rules-for-democratic_b_521574.html

The midterms will see dramatic Democratic losses...passage of Obamacare insured what was already a very high likelihood of losses. The key problem for this administration is that a silent majority of US voters wants two things: A.) A better economy, and B.) Less government intrusion in their lives. Obama deserves some sympathy for his failure to quickly reverse the economy's downward trend since that was caused by 35 years of Keynesianism and too much Bush Administration spending, especially on foreign wars. On the other hand, Obama's surge in Afghanistan and his foolish decision to continue neo-con foreign policy in Iraq, instead of ending the war, insured even more gluttonous military spending with no end in sight. As far as the Patriot Act and other Draconian civil liberties issues, the performance of Obama and the current Congress can be described as nothing less than a 'betrayal'. It is obvious peace on Earth and civil liberties are, to Democrats in Washington, just another empty campaign issue to be ignored at best after getting into office. The midterms will be a disaster; at the very minimum as bad as Clinton's midterms in 1994.



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