Kingdom, John Thorn: Royal Navy; No other military information? (1841-1851 period);
Notes: This is John Thorn Kingdom, a Greenwich Pensioner & ex Royal Navy seaman, born 26.05.1809 in Morice Town & Baptised 11.06.1809 in Stoke Damerel, the son of William Kingdon & Jane Thorn; Unfortunately I can find no Naval Records for this man but as he was recorded as a Seaman in 1841 & a Greenwich Pensioner in 1851 he certainly served with the Royal Navy; John Thorn Kingdom Married Mary Ann Rogers from Cornwall on 10.04.1832 in Stoke Damerel; In the 1841 Census John & Mary Kingdom, & he is recorded as a Seaman, are living at Charles Place, Antony, Cornwall; In 1851 Census this family live in Coke Houses in Stoke Damerel; In 1861 Census they live in #5, Coombe Park, Antony, Cornwall; In 1871 Census they live in Wilcove, Antony, Cornwall; In 1881 Census they live at #10, Wilcove in Antony; John Kingdom Died in 1883, St Germans, Cornwall, his wife Mary Ann Kingdom Died in 1890; (He is the Father of #84867 Christopher Kingdon Royal Navy, the Father of #66612 & #18070A William Joseph Kingdom Royal Navy, the Father of #31681 & #62768 John Rogers Kingdom Royal Navy, & the Father of Kingdom, Joseph Rogers: Royal Navy, #9762A; ADM 139/498); (He is also probably the Father of Kingdom, Thomas: Seaman, #84877, Royal Navy; ADM 188/80);
Follow Up Research Notes: I would suggest that the following record for Naval Personnel who served with the Navy pre 1853 may well belong to this man;
John Kingdom, Rating, Royal Navy – Born in Devonport in 1809, who was Aged 19 years when he first entered the service; The dates served are recorded as 22.01.1829 to 26.05.1856 & there is a further record ‘Original page number 6, which records Date & Type of application: Admiralty 04.09.1839 & others’, which is not quite understood by this researcher?
Kingdom, John W: #47940, Private, Lancashire Fusiliers, 1914-1920 WO 372/11, WW1;
Notes: No other records, no details on Battalion he served with or when he enlisted; Medals Card on file for the award of the British War & Victory Medals; Insufficient information to identify;
Kingdom, John William: #709, Private, Northumberland Fusiliers & #54392, Private, 4th (Hull) Battalion, East Yorkshire Regiment, & #139275, Private, Royal Army Medical Corps, WW1;
Notes: There are 16 pages of Service Records for this Soldier but no Medals Card; I believe that this is John William Kingdom born 1894 in Hull, the son of John William Kingdom, a Trawler Fisherman, b.1858 in Hull & Elizabeth Ann Fisher from Brixham who Married in 1881 in Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire; His Father Dies in 1895 at the age of 37 & in the 1901 Census John W. Kingdom, Aged 6, lives with his Widowed Mother at #2, Seaton Street, West Sculcoates, Hull; In 1911 Census John William Kingdom is aged 16 & a Tailor’s Apprentice living with his Mother at #2, Seaton Street, West Sculcoates; At the age of 20 years & 1 month, John William Kingdom enlisted for the Duration of the War in Hull on the 23.11.1914, he was living at #2, Seaton Street at the time & stated that he was a Tailor by trade, giving his Mother as his Next of Kin; His enlistment paper has many number annotations – 4th Hull Battalion, East Yorks Regiment #709 – Training Battalion – T.R/5/84553 - #54392 Northumberland Fusiliers & #139275; I will decipher these as I research his Army Service Records; The Officer who approved his enlistment was Commander of the 4th (Hull) Battalion, East Yorkshire Regiment, which I believe was a Territorial Force & was raised in Hull on 03.11.1914; Deciphering his records it appears that John William Kingdom was transferred from the East Yorks Regt. to the Northumberland Fusiliers on 12.06.1917 & then transferred to the Royal Army Medical Corps on 27.11.1917; This soldier was demobilised on 24.08.1919 to the Class Z reserve; The records are not clear but he seems to have served for 4 years & 275 days, mostly at Home I believe; In 1919 his Protection Certificate & Certificate of Identity shows him as #139275 of the 19th Company, Royal Army Medical Corps, with an address as #9, The Limes, Ella Street, Hull; On 26.07.1919 John Kingdom left the Lord Derby War Hospital which was situated on the Winwick Rectory Estate north of Warrington, Lancashire, built as an asylum in 1896, it was used as a military hospital with 2,160 beds during both World Wars. Between 1915 and 1920 over 56,000 wounded soldiers were treated there and the hospital resumed its work as an asylum in 1921. The Hospital closed in 1997 having provided care for 100 years and many of the buildings were demolished to make way for new housing; Private John William Kingdom appears to have suffered a 30% disability in his lower limbs but it is not clear from what injury this occurred? There is a Ministry of Pensions card on file ref: #Z/RAMC/9645 which indicates some form of pension payments were made; In 1920 John William Kingdom asked the Army for references in order that he could obtain a job as a Night Attendant under the Hull Board of Guardians; John William Kingdom Married Gladys May Cross, born 1897 in Hull, in 1920 in St. Pauls, Sculcoates & they appear to have had 4 sons; It is likely that John W Kingdom Died in 1947 in Hull, Yorkshire East Riding Aged 52; There is no Medals Card on file; (He is the Brother of Kingdom, Cornelius Lawrence: #M12042, Engine Room Artificer Class 3, Royal Navy; ADM 188/1042/42, WW1);
Kingdom, John William: Merchant Seaman, #DE.370; Royal Naval Reserve, Navy Trawlers; BT 377/7/71054, WW1;
Notes: The BT 377 Records have this Merchant Seaman’s date of birth as 11.10.1862 in Hull, Yorkshire; I have most births on file for Kingdom fishing families in Hull & cannot match this to any of my records but it could be John William Kingdom, who was baptised on 02.01.1861 in Holy Trinity Church, Hull, Yorkshire; Son of William Kingdom, a Fisherman, baptised 27.04.1828 Ramsgate, Kent & Christiana Andrew baptised 11.01.1829 in Hull who Married 09.02.1848 in Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire; In the 1861 Census John W Kingdom lives with his Mother at #3, Myton Square, Myton, Kingston Upon Hull, his Father is most probably fishing at sea; In the 1871 Census John W Kingdom is Aged 11 & lives with his parents at #4, Paradise Lodge, Myton, Kingston Upon Hull, his Father is a Fisherman; In the 1881 Census John William Kingdom is probably fishing at sea as I failed to find him; In late 1881, early 1882 John William Kingdom Marries Ann Elizabeth Leng from Guisborough, Yorkshire, in Kingston Upon Hull; In the 1891 Census John William Kingdom is at sea but his wife & children lived at #57, Scarborough Street, Newington, Yorkshire; In the 1901 Census Ann Elizabeth Kingdom lives in Newington, Sculcoates, Hull, John William Kingdom is again at sea fishing; In the 1911 Census John W & Annie E Kingdom live at #60, Scarborough Street, Hessle Road, Sculcoates, Hull, he is a Steam Trawler Fisherman; I understand that John William Kingdom died in 1941 in Hull Aged 83; (He was the Father of Kingdom, Ernest: Rank Tr., #TS/3949, Royal Naval Reserve, WW1; BT 377/7/122279); (He was the Father of James Arthur Kingdom #4170, Engineer, Royal Naval Reserve); Needs more research;
Kingdom, Joseph: Private, Royal Marines; Trafalgar Roll 1805;
Notes: The Trafalgar Roll dated 21.10.1805 has a record of an Award of the Trafalgar Medal to Joseph Kingdom for service as a Royal Marine on board ‘HMS Mars’ at the Battle of Trafalgar; Insufficient information to identify further;
Kingdom, Joseph Rogers: Royal Navy, #9762A; ADM 139/498; (1860’s)
Notes: This is Joseph (Josh) Rogers Kingdom born 08.09.1845 in Stoke Damerel, Devonport, Devon, the son of John Thorn Kingdom, also Royal Navy & Greenwich Pensioner b.1809 in Morice Town, Devonport & Mary Ann Rogers from Wilcove in Cornwall who married on 10.04.1832 in Stoke Damerel, Devon; In 1851 Census Joseph Kingdom lives with his parents in the Coke Houses, Stoke Damerel, Devon; Joseph Rogers Kingdom volunteered for Royal Navy Service on 20.06.1860, which his official number sequence would support; In the 1861 Census he is a 2nd Class Boy Sailor onboard the training ship ‘HMS Implacable’ in the Hamoaze Estuary; I believe that Joseph Rogers Kingdom Married Emma Brooks b.1847 in Torpoint, Cornwall in Stoke Damerel in 1867; Unfortunately Joseph Rogers Kingdom Died on 23.05.1869 in St Germans, Cornwall Aged 23; His Widow Emma Kingdom is a General Servant in the Baker’s Shop, #47, Fore Street, Antony, Cornwall in 1871; I believe that Emma Kingdom, Widow, then marries Samuel Sims, a Gardener from Cornwall, in 1872 in Stoke Damerel & lives in Antony in the 1881 Census; (Son of John Thorn Kingdom, Royal Navy); (Brother of #84867 Christopher Kingdon Royal Navy); (Brother of #66612 & #18070A William Joseph Kingdom Royal Navy); (Brother of #31681 & #62768 John Rogers Kingdom Royal Navy); (Possible Brother of Kingdom, Thomas: Seaman, #84877, Royal Navy; ADM 188/80);
Notes: The foregoing information has been collected from records that are freely available on the Internet but the author does not guarantee that the expansion & identification of these records is accurate, but suggests that it should be used as a tool for further more detailed research of individual cases; It is intended as an additional aid tool, helping ancestry researchers to identify individuals named Kingdon or Kingdom who are recorded as having served in the Military Forces at any time or period in history;
Peter Holden, roeschlinp@gmail.com
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