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MURDER OF KAYDE WILLIAMS
(Draft Resolution)
Ms H H MALGAS: Deputy Speaker, I move without notice:
That the House —


  1. notes with great shock the senseless murder of a five-year-old girl, Kayde Williams, on Monday, 2 February 2015, in Bredasdorp two years after the horrific passing under similar circumstances of one of their own, Anene Booysen;




  1. understands the pain and distress the Williams family and the Bredasdorp community are going through as they battle to come to terms with the senseless loss of a young innocent life;




  1. believes that the scourge of violence against women and children is a cancer in our society and must no longer be tolerated;




  1. appeals to anyone who may have any information to come forward to assist the police in their investigation by reporting such information;




  1. calls upon the SA Police Service and all other social partners to get to the bottom of this matter and bring those responsible to justice; and




  1. conveys its condolences to the Kayde Williams family, friends and the entire community of Bredasdorp.

Agreed to.



EFF CONGRATULATES EDGAR LUNGU, NEWLY ELECTED PRESIDENT OF ZAMBIA
(Draft resolution)
Mr N P KHOZA: Deputy Speaker, I move without notice:
That the House —


  1. extends this congratulatory message to the Patriotic Front in Zambia for their decisive victory in the recent elections, particularly to congratulate the new President, Edgar Lungu;




  1. believes that the natural resources of Zambia should be used to benefit the people of Zambia and that the ownership and control of strategic sectors, including banks, are paramount in the pursuit of any massive industrialisation programme and localisation of production;




  1. encourages Zambians and the continent to reject the neoliberal narrative that has devasted the African economy and served as a means of expatriating wealth from Africa to Western capitalists while millions of Africans continue to live in abject poverty;




  1. stands with the people of Zambia and encourages them to forge ahead in dismantling the colonial ownership patterns of the economy;




  1. wishes to congratulate the coalition of the radical left, Syriza, in Greece on their historic electoral victory;




  1. notes that Syriza, a radical left party under the leadership of the new Prime Minister, Alexis Tsipras, in the centre of capitalist Europe is a major step forward for socialism everywhere;




  1. further notes that Prime Minister Tsipras promised nationalisation of strategic sectors of the economy and banks, raising of the minimum wage, combating flight of capital abroad, increasing taxes on big corporations and wealthy individuals, as well as provision of free health care, among other things, commitments that resonate with EFF election manifesto; and




  1. congratulates Prime Minister Tsipras.

The DEPUTY SPEAKER: If there are no objections, I put the motion. [Interjections.] There is an objection, therefore the motion becomes notice of a motion and will be printed on the Order Paper.
CONDOLENCES ON PASSING OF ZAYN ADAM
(Draft Resolution)
Ms T GQADA: Hon Speaker, I move without notice:
That the House -


  1. notes that on Sunday, 22 February 2015, music legend Zayn Adam sadly passed away;




  1. further notes that Adam passed away at Groote Schuur Hospital after suffering a heart attack earlier last week;




  1. acknowledges that Adam was a brilliant musician who started playing guitar at the age of 11, and he went on to become a household name in large parts of the country;

  2. further acknowledges that Adam was the front man of the renowned 1970s jazz band, Pacific Express;



  3. recognises the huge role Adam played in placing traditional Cape music on the national and international stage;




  1. further recognises that he blessed Cape Town, South Africa and the world with his mesmerising, soulful voice and made a huge contribution to Cape Town music and its rich history; and




  1. conveys its sincere condolences to the friends and family of Mr Zayn Adam.

Agreed to.


ETHEKWINI MUNICIPALITY SUPERINTENDENT VIOLATES CHILDREN’S RIGHTS
(Draft Resolution)
Mr M S MABIKA: Hon Speaker, I move without notice:
That the House -

  1. notes that mothers who live at the Thokoza Hostel in Durban have allegedly been instructed to send their children away by the municipality’s appointed superintendent;




  1. further notes that the affected mothers have stated their refusal to comply with the instruction;




  1. acknowledges that this instruction, if proven, is a direct violation of the rights of children to reside in the loving care of their parent;




  1. expresses its solidarity with the mothers who refuse to be separated from their children;




  1. condemns the alleged instruction of the hostel superintendent; and




  1. appeals to the eThekwini Municipality to urgently put in place measures to convert the Thokoza Hostel into a family-orientated place of residence.

Agreed to.


WORLD DAY OF SOCIAL JUSTICE
(Draft Resolution)
Mr N SINGH: Deputy Speaker, I move without notice:
That the House -


  1. recognises the World Day of Social Justice marked on 20 February, and this year’s theme being “the gap between the poorest and the wealthiest around the world is wide and growing”;




  1. acknowledges that this is a topic near and dear to our hearts and that, as a nation, we are ranked amongst the top countries in the entire world in respect of huge disparities between the rich and the poor;




  1. further acknowledges that the aim of the United Nations, UN, was to promote the objectives and goals of the World Summit for Social Development;




  1. recognises that social justice is an underlying principle for peaceful and prosperous co-existence within and among nations;




  1. further recognises that South Africa upholds the principles of social justice; promotes gender equality and the rights of indigenous peoples and migrants; and advances social justice when it removes barriers that people face because of gender, age, race, ethnicity, religion, culture or disability;




  1. calls upon the government and all its departments collectively to work together in the spirit of social justice as this is a societal issue that requires all to give it as much attention as can be given; and




  1. applauds governmental efforts to date for the establishment of the early childhood development centres, ECDs, in every ward of the country, especially in the poor areas identified through Project Mikondzo, but urges that more be done in the furtherance of the bigger goal of bridging the inequality gap.

Agreed to.



HASHIM AMLA SETS NEW ONE-DAY INTERNATIONAL CRICKET RECORD
(Draft Resolution)
Ms D CARTER: Deputy Speaker, I move without notice:
That the House -


  1. notes that on Friday, 16 January 2015, while playing in the first One-Day International against the West Indies at Kingsmead, Durban, South African opening batsman, Hashim Amla, broke Virat Kohli’s and Sir Vivian Richards’ joint record of reaching 5 000 runs in One Day International cricket quicker than anyone else in international cricket;




  1. further notes that Hashim Amla reached this incredible landmark in a mere 101 innings, while the West Indian great, Sir Vivian Richards, and Indian batsman, Virat Kohli, each took 114 innings to get there;




  1. recalls that Hashim Amla was also the quickest amongst international cricketers to get to 2 000, 3 000 and 4 000 runs in One Day International cricket;




  1. acknowledges that Hashim Amla has had considerable impact on the progress of South African cricket both because of his performance and his strength of character and as a captain of our national test cricket team;




  1. further acknowledges that Hashim Amla has been a worthy sports ambassador for South Africa;



  2. recognises that the stability he brings to an innings has been hugely beneficial to those who bat with him; and



  3. congratulates Hashim Amla for his personal achievement and his enormous contribution to South African cricket.

Agreed to.


KENNETH SOLOMON FIRST SOUTH AFRICAN TO BE AWARDED TITLE OF GRANDMASTER AFTER WINNING GOLD MEDAL AT 2014 AFRICAN INDIVIDUAL CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS
(Draft Resolution)
Mr P J MNGUNI: Deputy Speaker, I move without notice:
That the House -


  1. congratulates Kenneth Solomon for being awarded the title of Grandmaster, by winning the gold medal at the 2014 African Individual Chess Championship held in Windhoek, Namibia from 12 to 23 December 2014;




  1. notes that this new status makes him the first grandmaster in South Africa and the second grandmaster in sub-Saharan Africa, after Amon Simutowe of Zambia;




  1. recalls that Kenny Solomon started playing the game at 13 while living in Mitchells Plain;




  1. believes that Kenny’s achievements will inspire and open doors for all the aspiring chess players in South Africa who wish to become Grandmasters; and




  1. wishes him further success in his future endeavors and thanks him for proudly representing our country, South Africa.

Agreed to.


PRESIDENT ROBERT GABRIEL MUGABE ELECTED AS CHAIRPERSON OF THE AFRICAN UNION
(Draft Resolution)
Mr N S MATIASE: Deputy Speaker, I move without notice
That the House -


  1. notes that the Zimbabwean President, President Robert Gabriel Mugabe, has been elected as the chairperson of the African Union, AU, which represents 54 countries;




  1. acknowledges that President Mugabe is a former liberation war hero and is viewed with deep respect by many on the continent and abroad;




  1. notes that in his acceptance speech, President Mugabe called for African countries to improve infrastructure, tackle climate change, conflict in Africa and the Ebola challenge;




  1. further notes that, similarly, he said that Africa’s vast agricultural potential should be harnessed by ensuring that the people of Africa gain access to the land on which so many depend;




  1. congratulates President Mugabe on his appointment;




  1. commends and applauds his steadfast refusal to budge under the pressure of imperialist forces to go down without resolving the fundamental grievance, that is, the land question;




  1. congratulates him again for encouraging African unity and the return to the core principle on which the African Union was formed;




  1. encourages President Mugabe to lead a massive land expropriation programme throughout Africa for the benefit of the African masses;




  1. further encourages the AU to advance with great speed the development of the African economy through protected industrial development to create millions of sustainable jobs; and




  1. encourage AU member states to develop strong state capacity to advance our generational mission for economic freedom in our lifetime.

In the light of the objection, the motion without notice may not be proceeded with. The motion without notice now becomes a notice of motion on the Order Paper.


WOUTER KELLERMAN WINS A GRAMMY AWARD
(Draft Resolution)
Mr M WATERS: Deputy Speaker, I move without notice:
That the House -


  1. notes that Johannesburg-born flautist, Wouter Kellerman, walked away with a coveted Grammy at the 57th Grammy Awards on Sunday 08 February 2014;




  1. acknowledges that Wouter Kellerman, in collaboration with Indian born Ricky Kej, made history by becoming the first South African to win in the New Age category for their album, Winds of Samsara;

  2. further acknowledges that it took 120 musicians and three years to create this album and that it reached number one on the United States New Age Album Billboard Charts during July last year;




  1. congratulates Wouter Kellerman for being the only South African who managed to scoop an award this year;




  1. conveys its message of support to him for his future undertakings and wishes him even more success in the future.

Agreed to.


AMAJIMBOS QUALIFY FOR THE FIFA U17 WORLD CUP
(Draft Resolution)
Mr N L S KWANKWA: Deputy Speaker, I move without notice:
That the House -


  1. notes that the South African under-17 national soccer team, Amajimbos, secured a spot in the semi-finals of the African Youth Championships by beating Cameroon 3-1 on Sunday, 22 February 2015;




  1. acknowledges that this victory made this under-17 team the first ever to qualify for the Fédération Internationale de Football Association, Fifa, U17 World Cup to be hosted in Chile later this year;




  1. congratulates the South African Football Association, Safa, the technical team and all the players for their hard work and dedication; and




  1. wishes the team all the best in the remaining championship encounters.

Agreed to.


PROFESSOR TYRONE BRIAN PRETORIUS INAUGURATED AS VICE CHANCELLOR AND RECTOR OF UNIVERSITY OF THE WESTERN CAPE
(Draft Resolution)
Ms C N MAJEKE: Deputy Speaker, I move without notice
That the House -


  1. notes that on 16 February 2015, the University of the Western Cape, UWC, inaugurated Professor Tyrone Brian Pretorius as Vice Chancellor and Rector of the University;




  1. further notes that Professor Pretorius succeeds Professor Brian O’Connell who took over as a Rector of the University in 2000, and who has done an outstanding job to develop the university with a legacy, amongst other things, of a science building which has the most advanced and equipped technologies in Africa;




  1. acknowledges that Professor Pretorius had occupied senior positions within the university before and has knowledge of the university;




  1. congratulates him on his appointment to lead the university; and




  1. wishes him well in his tenure of office and future endeavours.

Agreed to.


UBUNYE-UNITY TRUST RAISES FUNDS FOR MUZOMUHLE PRIMARY SCHOOL
(Draft Resolution)
Mr C MACKENZIE: Deputy Speaker, I move without notice
That the House -


  1. notes the generosity of the Ubunye-Unity Trust, an association of South Africans living and working in the United Kingdom;




  1. further notes that the Ubunye-Unity Trust’s inaugural project aims to raise funds to deliver essential services to the Muzomuhle Primary School in Diepsloot;




  1. acknowledges that the trust has raised several thousand pounds to assist the more than 2 000 learners and teachers at the school;




  1. further acknowledges that over time, these funds have been used to equip the school library with books, buy desks and chairs and repair the leaking roofs in several classrooms; and




  1. thanks the Ubunye-Unity Trust for their kindness and for touching the lives of so many young children at the Muzomuhle Primary School in Diepsloot.

Agreed to.


SUSPENSION OF RULE 29
(Draft Resolution)
The DEPUTY CHIEF WHIP OF THE MAJORITY PARTY: Hon Deputy Speaker, I move:
That the House, notwithstanding Rule 29 which provides for the sequence of the proceedings, limits the business for Wednesday, 25 February 2015, to the introduction of the Appropriation Bill and the tabling of the Division of Revenue Bill, and related matters.
Agreed to.
MOTION OF CONDOLENCE
(The late Mr N L Diale)

The DEPUTY CHIEF WHIP OF THE MAJORITY PARTY: I move that the House —




  1. notes with great sadness the passing of one of the most respected anti-apartheid struggle veterans and ANC Member of Parliament for 20 years, Mr Nelson Diale, on Thursday, 8 January 2015, in the Jane Furse Hospital in Limpopo;




  1. further notes that he passed away at a time when the ANC, the party for which he made colossal sacrifices and which he selflessly served for close to 60 years, marked its 103rd year of existence;




  1. recalls that Mr Diale joined the ANC in 1956, following the adoption of the Freedom Charter by the Congress of the People in 1955 which he believed represented the vision of a truly united, democratic, nonracial, nonsexist and prosperous South Africa and for which he was ready to lay down his life;

  2. further recalls that not only was he one of the heroes who dedicated his life to the battle against the demon of apartheid and racial segregation so that the goals enshrined in the Freedom Charter could be achieved, but throughout his 20 years’ parliamentary tenure he tirelessly worked for its practical implementation;




  1. remembers that Mr Diale endured police harassment, countless arrests, persecution, torture and banishment due to his activism in the ANC, Umkhonto weSizwe, which he joined in 1962, the SA Communist Party, SACP, and the SA Congress of Trade Unions, Sactu;




  1. further remembers that in 1964 he was imprisoned on Robben Island for eight years under the notorious Sabotage and Terrorism Acts, along with fellow combatants such as Peter Magano, Andrew Mashaba, Melifi Makinta and Peter Nchabeleng, all of them legally represented by stalwart Bram Fischer;




  1. recognises that among the liberation fighters alongside whom he served on Robben Island, were President Jacob Zuma, Comrades Harry Gwala, Steve Tshwete, Steven Dlamini and Lawrence Phokanoka, and it was during his imprisonment on Robben Island that his political education was developed and internalised;




  1. further recognises that not even his torture of eight years, and other harsh conditions which he endured on Robben Island, could break his tenacious and resolute spirit;




  1. acknowledges upon his return from prison, and despite his banishment to the homeland of Lebowa and the constant harassment of his family, he continued fearlessly and defiantly to carry out the political programmes of the ANC;




  1. further acknowledges that he retired from Parliament in 2014, having served on many committees over the past two decades, most notably –




  1. the Portfolio Committees on Correctional Services, Transport, Defence and Military Veterans, as well as Safety and Security; and




  1. during the final five years of his parliamentary tenure, he served as a member of the political committee of the ANC parliamentary caucus, a National Executive Committee subcommittee that oversees the ANC’s parliamentary work;




  1. believes that as a result of his passing, the ANC and the people of South Africa have lost a great fount of knowledge, a foremost intellectual, a struggle giant, a humble revolutionary and a selfless warrior.

The SPEAKER: The hon Majola. [Interjections.]


Mr N SINGH: Hon Speaker ...
The SPEAKER: Yes, hon Singh.
Mr N SINGH: I just rise to indicate that the hon Deputy Chief Whip of the Majority Party did not read subsections 12 and 13 of the draft resolution for the record. Thank you.
The SPEAKER: Hon Deputy Chief Whip, do you want to finish off the resolution?
The DEPUTY CHIEF WHIP OF THE MAJORITY PARTY: Yes.
The SPEAKER: Take your seat, hon Majola.
The DEPUTY CHIEF WHIP OF THE MAJORITY PARTY: Thank you, hon Speaker. I continue -


  1. firmly believes that through his contribution great progress has been made in the implementation of the Freedom Charter over the past 20 years; and




  1. extends its deepest condolences to his family, friends, comrades and the ANC.

Mr T R MAJOLA: Hon Speaker, the DA extends its deepest condolences to the family, friends and comrades of uTata Diale. The family has been in our thoughts and prayers and we will continue to keep them in our thoughts and prayers during this difficult time.


UTata Nelson was born on 1 January 1936, at Ga-Masemola in Limpopo where he spent most of his childhood years. He attended school in Sekobetlane Maphutha. In 1952 he left the village for Pretoria in search of employment.
Immediately after stepping off the train, the police arrested him; his crime was that he was not in possession of the hated dompas. The police beat him brutally and he was imprisoned. This was the beginning of a similar brutal treatment that he was to suffer at the hands of the police for most of his life.
He then found work in a hotel as a waiter. He did not enjoy working there as he was harassed by his employer. In 1956, uTata Nelson joined the ANC where he was taught basic political skills. In 1958, he also joined the Domestic Workers Union affiliated to the SA Congress of Trade Unions, Sactu - a workers’ movement aligned to the ANC. He was active in the ANC until it was banned in 1960.
In 1960, when the ANC was banned, uTata Nelson was among the first comrades to be recruited to its military wing uMkhonto weSizwe, but he chose to remain inside the country and undergo the training internally.
In January 1964, his unit was arrested and he was tortured and beaten for three months. uTata Nelson was sent to Robben Island where he served an eight-year sentence. It was here that he met political prisoners including President Jacob Zuma.
After his release in 1972, he was banned from organising activities in the community. He then began working underground for the ANC. In 1975, uTata Nelson linked up with the ANC’s underground network. He was involved in a clash with the police where two constables were injured.
The entire, then Northern Transvaal, underground network was rounded up and others were sentenced to long prison terms while some, like uTata Nelson, were acquitted and served with internal banning orders.
uTata Nelson later worked with Dr Aaron Motsoaledi in establishing the Sekhukhune Advice Office, a centre which was dedicated to helping activists, victims and their relatives financially and logistically.
After the April 1994 democratic elections, uTata Nelson was elected as a Member of Parliament, MP, representing the ANC. In Parliament he served as a committee member on Portfolio Committees on Defence, Safety and Security and the Joint Standing Committee on Defence.
On 27 April 2011, President Jacob Zuma honoured uTata Nelson with the Order of Luthuli in Silver for his selfless contributions and sacrifices to the cause of freedom in this country.
uTata Nelson died on 8 January 2015, in Limpopo province. He died on the weekend as the political party, the ANC, marked their 103 years’ anniversary in Cape Town.
He was buried on 18 January 2015, in Sekhukhune village in Limpopo province as one of the most respected anti-apartheid struggle veterans and a former ANC Member of Parliament for 20 years.
Singulo mbutho we-DA siyaphinda sithi wanga umphefumlo wakhe ungalala ngoxolo. [Again as the DA we say, may his soul rest in peace.]
May his soul rest in peace! Thank you, Speaker. [Applause.]
Ms H O MAXON: Hon Speaker, the EFF would like to express its sincere condolences to Mr Diale’s family and friends.
He was born on 1 January 1936 at Ga-Masemola in Limpopo province and he contributed immensely to the development of the people of that province and South Africa at large.

He joined the struggle for liberation in 1956 and never looked back since then until he met his death.


He died after having served in this Parliament for many years since he was elected as a Member of Parliament, MP, in the First Democratic Parliament. During his tenure in Parliament, he served on a number of committees including the Portfolio Committees on Defence and Safety and Security.
We learnt that he was a humble man dedicated to his calling as a freedom fighter. On 27 April 2011, the current President awarded him with the National Order of Luthuli in Silver for his excellent contributions to the struggle for democracy. Those who served with him in the previous democratic Parliaments are in a better position to give testimony about his contribution to the South African public and this House.
We should then ask ourselves a question: What is our contribution and value to the people of South Africa to honour such a good comrade? What value are we adding to a society to change the lives of our people for the better? We must agitate for the economic freedom of our people in our lifetime. Political freedom without economic freedom is meaningless.

The noblest way in which to honour the departed soul is by selflessly serving the people of South Africa and changing their socioeconomic conditions.


Mr Diale joined the liberation struggle after the Freedom Charter was adopted in Kliptown on 26 June 1955. We believe that it is the democratic principles and values enshrined in the Freedom Charter and the struggle of our people that inspired him to join the struggle.
We are sure that he would have loved to see the implementation of the Freedom Charter to the fullest by the ANC-led government to bring back the dignity of our people, which was since eroded by the apartheid system.
He died not having realised this vision of our country crafted in 1955 by our visionary leaders who were particularly disturbed by the inequalities and racism that existed at that time.
We are quite certain that Mr Diale would have loved to see the inequalities and racism addressed and rooted out within the South African society. Mr Diale, as the activist he was, definitely would have loved to see a society where all have the right to occupy the land whenever they choose.

More than 20 years since the attainment of democracy, our people are still landless and are being evicted and thrown off the farms on daily basis. We see on a daily basis our people being subjected to conditions of squalor, particularly in informal settlements.


They do not have access to basic services like water, electricity and proper housing. Many of them live in shacks. Their communities are characterised by serious social ills such as crime, diseases, etc.
The ownership of mineral wealth, banks and industries are still in the hands of the white monopoly capital and our people have gained very little from the democracy which we are talking about today. The ideal of free compulsory and universal education is not yet realised. Many of our children do not have access to tertiary education because of the shortage of space.
The current government has failed dismally to expand opportunities for our children to be absorbed into institutions of higher learning. Those who passed Grade 12 are not absorbed anywhere and they end up getting involved in criminal activities. We are certain that all these conditions, which our people are subjected to, broke his heart.

There is currently a lack of leadership that is capable of bringing about the kind of changes that our people want in their lives. This is the visionary leadership that will radically and boldly address the socioeconomic conditions of our people.


Rest in peace, Mr Diale. Amandla! [Applause.]
Mr M A MNCWANGO: Hon Speaker, the IFP would like to extend its heartfelt condolences to the family and friends of Mr Nelson Diale, who died on 8 January 2015.
Having been a 20-year servant of the people in this House, and almost a 60-year member of the ANC, Mr Diale exemplified courage and his determination in his contributions to the liberation of this country from its apartheid past.
His service in this House allowed him to continue to contribute to the changing landscape of our country. His efforts reflected his desire not only to see our democracy take route, but also our people no longer being marginalised, but truly free in the country of their birth.
The IFP would also like to express its condolences to Mr Diale’s political home, the ANC. He truly was a servant of not just the party but of the people.
Lastly, I would like to extend the same condolences to myself personally for having lost not only a neighbour of so many years, but also a true friend and a gentleman. I used to call him “commissar”.
Mr Diale, like the late Mr Henry Fazi who was also a member of this House, was always ready to share with me his experiences both as a freedom fighter in the uMkhonto weSizwe and a disciplined cadre of his party. I will always miss those pearls of wisdom that freely flowed from his vast reservoir of knowledge and experience.
Rest in peace, Senator Tata Diale. [Applause.]
Mr S C MNCWABE: Hon Speaker, hon members of this House, the NFP takes note, with a deep sense of sadness, of the passing away of the late former Member of Parliament, MP, the hon N L Diale. We wish to place on record our support for the motion of condolence and extend our deepest sympathy to the family of the hon Diale.
We salute him for his life-long commitment to the struggle for justice and equality in our country. We also salute him for being one of the brave people who contributed to the kind of life that we enjoy today in this country. May his soul rest in peace. Thank you. [Applause.]
Ms C N MAJEKE: Hon Speaker, hon members, the UDM extends its heartfelt condolences to the family, the ANC and the friends of the late member of the NA, Letsau Nelson Diale.
The late hon Diale dedicated his life to fighting for freedom for all. The fact that he served the people of this country for no less than 20 years as a Member of Parliament, MP, is a confirmation of his convictions, dedication and commitment to the attainment of freedom for all in South Africa.
We know that his family and comrades have lost what was certainly a source of great wisdom, drawn from practical struggles with the masses of our people, and indeed an important moral compass in life.
Without a doubt, though, the loss comes with so many layers of heartache. We hope the family will find solace in the knowledge that heaven has received one of the most special angels.

May the peace which comes from the memories of love shared comfort you now and in future. May God give his family, organisation and friends sufficient strength to bear this loss and give the departed soul a place in heaven.


Take with you the wise words of Orson Scott Card, from his book, Shadow of the Hegemon, and I quote:
Death is not a tragedy to the one who dies; to have wasted the life before that death, that is the tragedy.
May his soul rest in eternal peace. I thank you. [Applause.]
Dr P J GROENEWALD: Speaker, ek het vir Nelson in 1994 hier in die Parlement leer ken.
Wat vir my nogal opmerklik was, was dat, ten spyte van ons agtergronde wat aansienlik verskil het, ons op die verdedigingskomitee saamgestem, maar soms ook verskil het. Die besondere eienskap wat Nelson egter gehad het, was dat hy dit altyd met respek en waardigheid gedoen het.
Ek dink hy is ‘n voorbeeld van die ou garde wat, hoewel hulle verskil het, mekaar nog steeds met respek en waardigheid kon hanteer. Ek wil eerlikwaar sê dat hy sy bydrae gelewer het in die verdedigingskomitee en ek dink sy afsterwe is ‘n groot verlies vir die ANC.
Natuurlik, uit die aard van die saak, wil die VF Plus graag sy medelye uitspreek teenoor sy familie, dat hulle ‘n geliefde verloor het.
Die uitstaande kenmerk van Nelson was dat hy altyd met my Afrikaans gepraat het. Dit was ‘n teken dat as ons mekaar se tale praat, ons ook grense kan oorkom. As ‘n medesoldaat wil ek sê dat ek hom salueer in terme van dit wat hy gedoen het. Ek dank u. (Translation of Afrikaans speech follows.)
[Dr P J GROENEWALD: Speaker, I got to know Nelson in 1994, here at Parliament.
What was quite remarkable to me was that, despite our backgrounds differing significantly, we could agree in the defence committee, yet sometimes also differ. But the remarkable characteristic that Nelson had was that he would always do so with respect and dignity.
I think he was an example of the old guard who, although they could differ, still treated one another with respect and dignity. I want to state truthfully that he made his contribution in the defence committee and I believe that his passing is a big loss to the ANC.
Of course the FF Plus would naturally like to convey its condolences to his family, who have lost a loved one.
The outstanding characteristic of Nelson was that he always spoke to me in Afrikaans. That was an indication that if we could speak each other’s language, we could overcome barriers. As a fellow soldier I want to say that I salute him in terms of what he has accomplished. I thank you.]
Ms D CARTER: Hon Speaker, Mr Nelson Diale was a notable veteran of the struggle. From early in his life he experienced police brutality that carried on for many years. Like the other Nelson, he was a big man who took the pain and forgave those who inflicted cruelty on him.
In January 1964, he was arrested, tortured, beaten and sent to Robben Island, where he served an eight-year term. The hardships he suffered only strengthened his resolve to fight and overthrow apartheid.
In Parliament he always stood out as a person of dignity, and when he spoke he did so with authority and humility.
A particular feature of his political life was his readiness to engage with opposition Members of Parliament, MPs, in a constructive and friendly manner. He could always be counted on to take a balanced and considered view – an example to each of us in this NA, as well as to South Africans.
South Africa and Parliament owe a great debt of gratitude to him and to others of his type. They made reconciliation possible and they gave to Parliament the stability to forge our new democracy.
To his family and his loved ones, his friends and his colleagues, we express our deepest condolences. The hon Mr Lekota knew him well and also appreciated his commitment and friendship. May his soul rest in peace. Thank you.
Mrs C DUDLEY: Hon Speaker, the ACDP recently learned of the death of Mr Letsau Nelson Diale, who died on 8 January 2015 in Jane Furse, Limpopo province.
We note that after the April 1994 democratic elections, Mr Diale took office as a Member of Parliament, MP. He served as a committee member on the Portfolio Committees on Defence, Safety and Security and the Joint Standing Committee on Defence.
We further note that President Zuma honoured Mr Diale with the Order of Luthuli in Silver in 2011, for his contributions to and sacrifices for the cause of freedom in our country.
We do not know whether or not Mr Diale was ready to meet his Maker, but we do know that death is always sad for those left behind. The ACDP expresses its sincere condolences to his family and friends, his colleagues in the ANC and the communities that he served. Thank you.
Mr S M JAFTA: Madam Speaker, the AIC would like to pass on its deepest condolences to the family of the hon Diale, and to his organisation, the ANC.
Although we, as the AIC, were not familiar with the hon Diale or his character, one can deduce from the previous speakers that his contributions to shaping the new South Africa and changing the lives of the people of this country make his living among South Africans worthy of praise.
This is why the AIC decided to join other parties in paying this last courtesy to him and to celebrate his life, which, as many have confirmed, was well lived.
Previous speakers have mentioned many leadership qualities that the hon Diale had. The AIC feels that the country has lost a leader that it really needs, especially at this time in our democracy when decisive leaders are needed. Our country needs people-centered, disciplined and committed leaders who are not easily shaken, even when the heavy wind blows – the kind we say the hon Diale was.
There is a poem which states that the measure of a man is not how he died, but how he lived; not what he gained, but what he gave. Today, we got to know that the hon Diale spent most of his life suffering, fighting to better the lives of South Africans.
To his family and his organisation, the ANC, the AIC says, remember there is a time for everything. The death of the hon Diale was at another time, different from that of his birth. His time has come and therefore we must let his soul rest in peace. I thank you.
Mr N T GODI: Hon Speaker, comrades and hon members, on behalf of the APC, I join the House in passing on our heartfelt condolences to and expressing our solidarity with the family of the late Comrade Diale and the party he belonged to, the ANC.
Comrade Diale was a stalwart of the liberation struggle. He belonged to a generation that blazed a trail in our struggle. His life was a testament to the altruism of the liberation movement – that of service, suffering and sacrifice.
In his passing away, we are reminded that the freedom and democracy we enjoy today has been fought for. It is a product of enormous effort and sacrifice. So, as we celebrate freedom, we must honour service.
Those of us bequeathed with the freedom he fought for must, equally, appreciate the responsibilities that come with it. Let us honour his legacy by intensifying the fight against racism, inequality, poverty and unemployment.
All agree that Comrade Diale was a humble man, structured, experienced and comradely to all. The APC says, may his soul rest in peace.
Let’s take comfort from the words of Robert Sobukwe, who said that we are nothing but tools of history. When we are gone, history will find new tools.
I thank you.
The MINISTER OF HEALTH: Hon Speaker and hon members of the House, the ANC dips its revolutionary banner in salute to a real cadre of the movement, the man everybody affectionately referred to as Ntate Diale.
There is no need to explain why the ANC buried him under the epithet, mogale wa bagale [hero of the heroes], a compatriot for life and a patriot to the end. He has truly earned that accolade as members have attested to this afternoon.
Ntate Diale’s humility, simplicity and humaneness portray this very part of history in the liberation of our country. His introduction to the life of a black man in South Africa was as dramatic as it has always been for most black people, especially from the rural areas.
He left rural Sekhukhuneland in the 1950s to look for a job, like all young men who do so when they come of age. He was arrested for not having a pass book as he was alighting from a train in Pretoria. His first taste of jail was that very same night after being severely beaten by the apartheid police.
Of course, this was to be his first contact with what was to come throughout his life until our country attained liberation in 1994.
He got a proper dompas to stay in Pretoria in 1953. He found his first job as a domestic helper and a gardener, and joined the ANC in 1956, and the Domestic Workers’ Union under the SA Congress of Trade Unions, Sactu. Later he joined the SA Communist party, SACP.
At the time of his untimely demise he had been a member of the ANC for 59 years, uninterrupted and with a very clean record. He joined Umkhonto weSizwe, MK, to participate in the armed struggle in 1962 as one of its very first recruits.
He was sentenced to Robben Island for eight years where he sharpened his political acumen and consolidated his dedication to the liberation of our people.
On his release, he was banished to his home village of ga-Masemola and placed under a banning order. He was declared a dangerous communist who must be isolated, and even his kids were not to play with anyone. He was monitored by Security Branch police from Middleburg.
I met Ntate Diale 29 years ago, under circumstances that can only happen in a very oppressive apartheid state. It was in the early evening of a normal Friday, and I had just arrived at St Rita’s Hospital in Sekhukhune for my night duty.
That evening, Comrade Thabo Molewa, the late brother-in-law of Minister Edna Molewa, arrived at the hospital from Johannesburg. He told me that he had been sent by the SA Council of Churches, SACC, headquarters, and that he was to do everything in his power to make sure that a young boy from a village called ga-Masemola, who was to be buried the following day, should not be buried until the real truth about his death was known.
The death certificate stated natural causes as the cause of death, but the SACC had every reason to believe that he was murdered by the then SA Defence Force.
So I was requested to perform another postmortem to discover the truth. Of course I agreed, but there was a very big problem. The body had already arrived back home as it was Friday evening, and the family was adamant that in their culture nobody’s body could be taken back to a hospital or even back to the mortuary once they had arrived at home for a funeral.
Furthermore, the magistrates’ offices were closed and therefore unable to give any permission for a repeat official post mortem after hours. But the SA Council of Churches insisted that I go to the family and perform the post mortem right there inside the house – a very serious cultural shock to the family, and the village.
I did not know anyone in that family, but I had to go. I arrived at ga-Masemola at 20:00 that night. There was a serious stand-off between the Young Lions and the SA Defence Force outside the family house.
There was an old man standing between the two warring factions. This old man was introduced to me as Ntate Diale, and I told him what my problem was. He negotiated very hard with the family to allow me to do the unthinkable — to open the coffin, perform a post mortem there and discover the truth.
Ntate, being what he was, smuggled me through the back door where we had to climb over a wall so that the soldiers outside would not see us or even suspect what we were doing. I performed the post mortem with Ntate Diale standing right there by me, helping to soothe the family whenever their nerves were starting to fray because of what was happening.
To the apartheid government, he was a dangerous communist who had to be isolated, but to many ordinary villagers, he was regarded as a hero and they were prepared to listen to him even when he was requesting them to accept practices completely alien to them, maybe even traumatic practices.
To them he was mogale wa bagale [hero of the heroes], a compatriot for life and a patriot to the end.

We were pursuing the truth and Ntate Diale made sure that the truth was known. Of course, even if it was in unusual circumstances, that truth was discovered there in that coffin: The boy had been brutally murdered by the Defence Force. Every internal organ was crushed, but there was no physical sign anywhere outside the body.


Armed with the results of the postmortem, I learnt the very following day that the doctor who had performed the first postmortem lied deliberately because he performed it in the presence of the same people who had murdered the boy, the Defence Force.
He was under pressure, and knowing what he had written as a doctor, he escaped the following day to England, leaving the lies to be buried. But Ntate Diale worked very hard to create conditions for me to discover the truth, and the truth was discovered because of his determination.
Two days later, a giant of a soldier arrived at my practice. He was really huge - the type of guy, who, when he wants to read the time on his wristwatch he must blow very hard with his breath. He looked at the watch he said, “Ja, can you confirm that the Communist Diale performed an illegal postmortem, jong?”

I said, “Nee, Meneer, Ntate Diale is not a doctor, I am. I performed the postmortem.”


He said, “Ja, dokter, we will leave you alone if you can confirm that he forced you to do so. Jong, we know communists do that.”
I told him the conditions under which I had been prepared to perform it, and that Ntate Diale was just helping to negotiate with the family. If there was any blame, I was prepared to take it. But I can assure you that they were determined to pin something on Ntate Diale, but they couldn’t because I wouldn’t co-operate with them.
While most villagers rejected the notion that Ntate Diale was a dangerous communist to be isolated, those who worked with the system, of course, did believe it and rejected him.
Immediately after the unbanning of the ANC, Tata Walter Sisulu sent the veterans John Kgwana Nkadimeng and Elias Motsoaledi to Sekhukhune, to mobilise among traditional leaders, greet them and reintroduce them to the ANC because many of them had been members in the 1950s of Sebatakgomo, in which both Ntate Phala and Ntate Diale participated.
The job of visiting various traditional kraals to greet and prepare for the meeting with the veterans fell on Ntate Diale and Ntate Mahwidi Phala and I.
I went with Ntate Diale to see this particular Kgoši and greet him and prepare for the meeting of Ntate John Nkadimeng and Ntate Elias Motsoaledi. I introduced myself and there was no problem. When we introduced Ntate Diale, there was this old man who just stood up and said, “Who? Diale? Wag hierso! Just wait right here at the gate! Wag!”
And he ventured into Afrikaans even though he was just as African as us! He said, “Wag daarso!” Of course, that was how he was taught. I was very surprised at what happened next.
When he came back he returned with a very long gun; the ones given then by the Lebowa government to the traditional chiefs to protect themselves against the young comrades. The gun was trained on Ntate Diale. He said: “You will never enter here, because we understand you are one who is preaching around that all the chiefs are no longer going to be allowed to govern, the ANC is going to take over. The children no longer respect us in this village because of you. You are causing us serious hardships.”

We worked very hard to try and talk this man out of his very arrogant stance, but he would not relent as long as Ntate Diale was standing there. He really believed that he was a communist and would explode anytime. It was very funny because the very same people, Rre Kgwana Nkadimeng, and Elias Motsoaledi, the very same people who Ntate Diale was going to open doors for, are the ones who were to come and negotiate for him to be accepted in that house, and they did accept him at long last.


I am very happy to mention that during the course of my life with Ntate Diale we visited many of these traditional leaders and they trusted him. One of them attested at his funeral that, “Yes, it’s true we used to be very scared of him because we were told lies about him, but we discovered later how gentle he was.” How did they discover that?
When the struggle started intensifying in the rural villages of Sekhukhune and all the other surrounding villages, there were lots of problems. Lots and lots of people were disappearing, some were arrested, others were harassed and there was a lot of hardship. People did not know where to go, they did not know who could help them, they did not know who to go to for advice because at that time the people’s movement was still banned.
Ntate Diale had just arrived in that area. As I was a rural general practitioner and activist, most of these people were coming to me in large numbers. So I had lots of patients on one side, and lots of people who wanted to know what to do because they didn’t know where their loved ones were.
Working with the Right Reverend Dean Mokebe Mminele, the father of the present Deputy Governor of the Reserve Bank, we established an advice office in Sekhukhune, with the help of the SA Council of Churches. Ntate Diale became the first officer to work in the Sekhukhune advice office, and I learnt from him that that was his first job since he had been released from Robben Island in 1972 because nobody would employ him.
The advice office became very busy and I must tell you that Ntate Diale was no longer just an officer working in the advice office to find out who had been arrested, who had been harassed, who had disappeared or what bail was needed and how to organise bail money.
He actually became everything. He became a social worker, psychologist and a marriage counsellor. I know all of this because he used to discuss some of these cases with me. He did not only become these things — even the very same traditional leaders, who had at first doubted him because they had been told that he was a communist, when they were fighting for thrones in various traditional kraals, would come to Ntate Diale to say he must declare who was the rightful heir to the throne, through the advice office.
So, because of this he became a very powerful and known figure in Sekhukhune. That is what Ntate Diale was. I still remember very well, when the struggle spread to young people immediately after Tata Nelson Mandela was released from jail, many young people refused to go to school , as you all know, because they said freedom had arrived.
I still remember local teachers complaining about me and Ntate Diale. They said that we were the ones who had caused problems in that area. We demanded to address the principals’ meetings and clarify issues. From then on Ntate Diale could no longer rest; every school where there was a strike, where there was strife between the civics and the school committees of that time, or the local chief, or whoever was in charge, Ntate Diale and I had to run there to douse the fires.
He became very trusted, even more than the local magistrates, or the local judiciary officers, as the man who could solve people’s problems, and he did so with humility and dedication. That was Ntate Diale for you.
As I said, he was a very humble and soft man. The only thing that was not soft about him was if he had to give you a handshake – I don’t know how many of you shook Ntate Diale’s hand, but you would have to go and see your orthopod immediately thereafter because the handshake would be very firm and hard. That was the only thing that could be hard about him. In all other things, like humility and humanity, he was a very soft but dedicated man.
To me, Ntate Diale became a father, a mentor, a comrade and a personal friend. I used to share a lot of things with him. That is why when my aunt, Caroline Motsoaledi, passed on, he was one of the first veterans I phoned because he was very close to the late Elias Motsoaledi.
After I phoned him that evening about the passing away of Mme Caroline, he said: “No, I was supposed to phone, I am also in hospital.” I said: “Hawu Ntate Diale, you are in hospital?” He replied: “Yes, I was in hospital in Polokwane and they have transferred me to Number 1 Voortrekkerhoogte, and that’s where I am now.”

The very next day, I went to see Ntate Diale and I was reassured that he was going to be well because he gave me that very famous firm handshake, and I realised that he was still himself.


I spent two hours there with him and I went for a second visit. It was with absolute shock a few days later that I received the call telling me that Ntate Diale is no more, because I thought he would just spend time in the hospital and be discharged. Unfortunately God had other plans for him.
Ntate Diale, son of the soil, mogale wa bagale a compatriot for life and a patriot to the end.
Robala ka kgotso, Phaahle’ a Phaahle. Ke a leboga. [Rest in peace, Phaahle’a Phaahle! Thank you.] [Applause.]
The SPEAKER: Hon members, we would like to recognise the friends of Ntate Diale who are in the gallery, the two ladies there who were friends of Ntate Diale. [Applause.]
I take it there are no objections, of course, to this motion being adopted — also taking it from the content of all the inputs that were made this afternoon.
I would like us to rise to observe a moment of silence in memory of the late Ntate Diale.
Thank you, hon members. The Presiding Officers associate themselves with the motion, and the condolences of the House will be conveyed to the Diale family.
Debate concluded.
Agreed to, members standing.

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