BS Claim #5 "The pile was COLD"
"You think there was excessive heat in the pile, but there wasn't. The pile was cold" ~ Judy Wood
"Calculating BTUs that would have been required is not relevant because BTU means British THERMAL Unit when heat had nothing to do with destroying the WTC." ~ Judy Wood
"Plus the dust cloud wasn't hot. People survived the dust cloud rolling over them, you know..... Since we know that people survived the dust cloud, we know that thermite and explosives were not used." ~ Judy Wood
"Figure 2. This is called the "Cheeto" picture because the orange object in the lower left corner looks like a Cheeto."
http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/dirt/dirt4.html
That's "red hot" molten dripping steel, Judy calls it a Cheeto!
Rebuttal #5
THE PILE WAS HOT, NOT COLD. Listen to a firefighter and the chief who reported the extreme temperatures.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEc0d-juRg0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVXt8ZtxhY8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FogrkulobOU
THERMAL IMAGES suggest otherwise.
http://www.ae911truth.org/fr/news/347-high-temperatures-persistent-heat-a-molten-steel-at-wtc-site-challenge-official-story.html
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/thermalhotspots.jpg
GROUND ZERO Two Months after 9/11 World Trade Center
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnRJI7JyNZw
Thermal definition: Of, relating to, using, producing, or caused by heat.
If it takes 60W of energy to heat up an itty bitty carbon thread (Light Bulb), how much energy would it take to heat up 96,000 (short) Tons of steel?
Lets do the South Tower:
BTU = Desired temperature rise * Specific heat * weight / time (hr)
BTU = 2700F * .12 * 192,000,000 lbs/1 hour
BTU = 62.2 billion BTU's
The HAARP project can supply 1.7 billion Watts in the 2.8 to 10 MHz frequency range. This would in theory be 16 billion Watts short.
MOLTEN STEEL
9/11 Molten Metal at World Trade Center.11th September 2001
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkO0lZ7BZJc&
Molten Steel At World Trade Center Site/Ground Zero after 9/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm3Ot1JxNdE&
Other videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCdRA09pztM&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ogrupgt4mI
Who's lying, the NYFD or Judy Wood?
Demolition Gone Bad (These people survived the dust cloud)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LArxg0zMANQ&
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Judy Wood Meets the High Temperature Accelerant HTA fires
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GDxnUo-pl8
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BS Claim # 6 “There was no Thermite”
"Stephen Jones wouldn't DARE file a legal document claiming thermite did it, because fraud is a crime and Steven Jones isn't stupid."
"Thermite doesn't turn steel into dust. Most of the building turned into dust."
"Nano-thermite, thermate, spray-on thermite. None of it is used in controlled demolitions."
"Thermite doesn't do what he says it does."
"The fact that the chips were coated with red material (aka rust)." ~ Judy Wood
"thermitic material" rust, metal powder, THAT'S IT! ~ Judy Wood
"You apparently think that the thermite reaction can stay hot for months, because that's what Steven Jones says caused all those fumes." ~ Judy Wood
"I regularly challenge both Steven Jones and Niels Harrit to a debate on whether or not thermite destroyed the World Trade Center."
Rebuttal #6
Steven Jones and 9 other of his colleagues co-wrote the Nano Thermite peer reviewed article. Published by Bentham Journal. Try debunking the paper instead of attacking the authors. Why didn’t Judy Wood collect any dust samples and test it herself? Have you ever read the peer reviewed paper?
http://www.benthamscience.com/open/tocpj/articles/V002/7TOCPJ.htm
Where are Judy Wood's dust sample tests? Wouldn;t she have access to labs at Clemson?
http://www.ces.clemson.edu/me/credo/projects/moire.pdf
Not Dr Steven Jones, Neils Harrit or anyone at AE911 claims thermite acted alone in the destruction of the World Trade Center. Nano Thermite was used to weaken the structure and EXPLOSIVES finished the job.
Listen to Niels instead of putting words in his mouth!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_tf25lx_3o
"This indicates the whole structure was being weakened in advance. Then the regular explosives come into play." - Niels Harrit.
Operation Blackout (The Media won’t even touch Nano Thermite)
http://world911truth.org/operation-blackout/
9/11 Experiments: The Great Thermate Debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d5iIoCiI8g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucZag9-Cgyk
FEMA describes the corrosion of the steel samples as "a very unusual event" in their report. FEMA does not take a position as to why the corrosion occurred, proffering it could have happened before the collapse or after. It's a short appendix, read it: http://wtc.nist.gov/media/AppendixC-fema403_apc.pdf
Thermite = Fe2 O3 + 2Al
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjYwhB9WpFE
FEMA found the Nano Thermite but chose to call it an "unusual event".
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Neils Harrit Re Judy Woods
http://sydwalker.info/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/neils_harrit_re_judy_woods.mp3
http://sydwalker.info/blog/2011/09/14/two-minutes-on-judy-woods-and-directed-energy-weapons/
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BS Claim # 7 “Steven Jones (AE911) is disinfo”
"AE911 is not involved in the scientific process." ~ Judy Wood
"What A&E is peddling is a nightmare of half-truths and outright lies." ~ Judy Wood
"Science doesn't work this way. Scientists involved in real science invite their competitors to conferences instead of excluding them." ~ Judy Wood
"Steven Jones is an enemy of us both." ~ Judy Wood
http://drjudywood.com/articles/a/forums/evidence.html
Rebuttal #7
AE911 make up over 1800 Architects and Engineers and over 16000 Students. They have based their entire research on science and physics. They even have several Peer Reviewed articles based on their findings.
Journal of 9/11 Studies
http://www.journalof911studies.com/
Scientist do not use words like "Ray Beam" "Dustification" "Fuzzyblobs" "fuzzball" and "Jellification" "transmutation" "Cheetos", "Snowball” as scientific evidence! All these words have been used by Judy Wood. She is the one that does not follow the scientific process.
http://drjudywood.com/articles/dirt/dirt4.html
http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/dirt/dirt2.html
Let me repeat the list: "Ray Beam", "Dustification", "Fuzzyblobs", "fuzzball","Jellification", "transmutation", "Cheetos", "Snowball"
Show me Judy Wood's science that proves "space beams" brought down the towers! Where's her scientific process? What peer review articles does Judy Wood have about her 9/11 theory?
How many of Dr Steven Jones' colleagues were invited to NIST or Pop Mech conferences? How many times has Judy Wood been invited? Why are you only bringing up AE911 and attacking Dr Steven Jones?
This shows me that Judy Wood and her supporters are more interested on attacking Steven Jones than providing evidence for Space beams! Dr Judy Wood is implying that Steven Jones was a part of the 9/11 conspiracy.
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BS Claim #8 “Space Beams”, “Directed Energy Weapons (DEW)”
"Dr. Judy Wood Has NEVER Discussed "Space Beams" or "Lasers From Space"
"Star Wars Beam" refers to the fact that the beam weapon was developed with money from the "Star Wars Defense Initiative.” ~ Judy Wood
"Dr. Judy Wood's theory is that electrical energy was used to vibrate the 7 World Trade Center (WTC 7) buildings almost entirely into tiny pieces."
Rebuttal #8
Judy Wood and Morgan Reynolds wrote an article about it and posted it on her website.
"The Star Wars Beam Weapons and Star Wars Directed-Energy Weapons (DEW)"
http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/StarWarsBeam1.html
This is why I call it Space beams! What else should I call it? Stars are in space and she uses the word Beam, hence the term "Space beams"
http://www.rense.com/general78/derk.htm
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Particle beam weapon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_beam_weapon
"Some particle beam weapons are real and have potential practical applications for example as an anti-ballistic missile defense system for the United States and their Strategic Defense Initiative. The vast majority however, are science fiction and are among the most prolific weapons seen there. They have been known by a plethora of fantastic-sounding names: Particle Accelerator Guns, Ion Cannons, Proton Beams, Lightning Rays, Ray Guns etc.
The concept of particle beam weapons comes from sound scientific principles and experiments currently underway around the world. One process to damage the target is to simply =*=overheat the target=*= until it is no longer operational."
"experiments currently underway"
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What tiny pieces?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwMkJmnyDuQ
or did WTC 7 collapse very similar to this CD?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=CA&hl=en&v=fHQOqnaIce0
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BS Claim #9 “ALUMINUM GLOWS”
The bizarre case of Michael Zebuhr
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Michael.html
"A few months ago Michael Zebuhr was as naive about 9/11 as most other college students. However, one of his professors, Judy Wood, was among the first "full" members of a group called Scholars For 9/11 Truth."
Aluminum Glows
By Judy Wood and Michael Zebuhr
March 1, 2006
http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/aluminum/Aluminum_Glows.html
JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL ZEBUHR
http://michaelzebuhr.blogspot.ca/
Rebuttal #9
Why does Judy Wood try to discredit the MANY reports of Molten Steel that were witnessed by Fire Fighters, Engineers and first responders?
Debunking Thermite: Not Molten Aluminum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxFXFkN6FaI&
"A large flow of molten iron could be seen falling from the 81st floor of WTC 2 five minutes before it collapsed. The light yellow color of the metal indicates that is is well over 1,000 degrees C. If this were aluminum, as some would argue, it would have melted at about 660 degrees C. and would appear silver-grey in daylight conditions."
Aluminum don't glow yellow in daylight conditions, it's silvery - 9/11 (Mark Basile)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jieFF1rnx0Y
Re: Molten Aluminum at 1800F
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30OVAvg1aGQ
CLAIM # 10 “Where’s the rubble pile?”
"Where's the rubble pile?"
Rebuttal # 10
Right here Judy,
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/wtc/images/wtc-photo.jpg
"The spreading of tons of material over a 1200' circumference does not imply a gravity and fire collapse. The debris field was 6 times the size of the towers footprint."
Well the rubble pile from Building 7 is clearly there because Building 7 came down in standard CD fashion.... from bottom to top. Here is the pile of WTC 7.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=214122595271542&
Now as for the towers..... they came down in top to bottom style, not seen very often but does exist. Here are a couple examples of a Top Down CD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ1E2NPl-s8&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVQaVgJne6c&
Now back to the towers...... As you can see from the explosions taking place inside the buildings. Steel beams are seen flying through the air 100's of feet away from the towers. So I'm not sure why you would expect to see a big pile in it's foot print. In fact the only thing you do see is the lobby still standing.
Here are some pics to show how the debris from the towers were spread out over an area much larger then the base.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=209383779078757&
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=209383775745424&
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QUESTIONS FOR JUDY WOOD
1) Has Judy Wood ever tested the Dust from Ground Zero?
2) Why does Judy Wood ignore the reports of Molten Steel? Why does she claim the pile was cold?
3) Why does Judy Wood ignore the witness reports/testimony of Explosives?
4) Does Judy Wood believe that "No Planes" hit the towers?
5) Why does Judy use unscientific words like "ray beam", "dustification", "fuzzyblobs" "fuzzball","Jellification", "transmutation", "cheetos", "snowball", and "holes" while discussing her "empirical evidence"?
6) Why did the Towers and Building 7 collapse in a different manner with her DEW theory?
7) Why does Judy continue to push disinformation that the Spire "dustified"?
8) Why does Judy Wood spend more time trying to discredit AE911 then proving her own theory?
9) Why does Judy Wood continue to push disinformation that "toasted cars" were damaged miles away from GZ (E.g. Cop Car #2723)?
10) Did Judy Wood suffer a coma during the 80's?
11) Why does Judy Wood feel that Hurricane Erin is relevant to what happened to the Towers?
12) Why won't Judy give us the names of suspects she feels are responsible for 9/11?
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CONCLUSION
The "Space Beam" theory is completely absurd. It is simply a hoax to discredit the entire truth movement. I have gone through Dr Judy Woods' presentation point by point, only to realize that it's very manipulating, deceiving and lacks any scientific evidence. Not to mention the fact that almost every "Space Beamer" I come across is also a "No Planer". Either these people believe every conspiracy theory out there or they are agents with a hidden agenda. I choose the latter. Judy Wood and her supporters seem to spend more time attacking Dr Steven Jones and AE911 than they do trying to prove their own theory. This leads me to believe that there is no credibility to Dr Judy Wood and her cult of "Space beamers". They simply have more questions than answers and base their theory on speculation and assumptions rather than facts and scientific evidence.
My allegiance will always remain with the 1800+ professionals at AE 911. If and when Judy Wood can get her theory peer reviewed by a scientific journal, then and only then will I give it some consideration.
Judy Wood = Disinfo agent.
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EMAIL EXCHANGE WITH JUDY WOOD
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My first Email to her was my “debunking Dr Judy Wood” note copied and pasted and sent to her inbox at lisajudy@nctv.com
My name is Ken and I have been debating with many of your followers for the last 2 years. I have looked over your research to find that you are basing most of your evidence on assumptions. Is this how you follow the scientific process? By speculating?
If you would just look into a few of your claims a little more, you would see that many can be answered quite easily.
I would like for you to go through my note and please respond to my rebuttals on each of your claims.
*Note attached
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Hello, ken DoGG,
If you are interested in the truth about what happened on 9/11, here is where you can find it:
Where Did The Towers Go?
http://wheredidthetowersgo.com
http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/buy
I follow the schientific method and present scientific evidence, not theory, not speculation, not hypothesis, not opinion, not thesis....
I do not claim that "space beams" were involved and never have.
If you are interested in food fights, name calling, diversions.... you apparently already know where to find that.
If you need more, there is an entire book written about it:
http://tinyurl.com/911ftb
I believe in freedom of choice. My choice is to discuss the evidence and to discuss the truth of what happened that day. That is why I wrote my book.
Sincerely,
Dr. Wood
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Judy, you failed to look at my Note!
This is the problem with DEW's supporters. They ignore all the rebuttals while continuing to push junk science!
Seriously, show me your scientific approach because everything you claim is easily refuted. From "toasted" cars, to "dustified" spires, to your attacks on AE911.
Thats not science. You are the only scientists in the world that has ever use words like "Ray Beam" "Dustification" "Fuzzyblobs" "fuzzball" and "Jellification" "transmutation" "Cheetos" and "Holes" as scientific evidence!
What a shame!
Ken
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Ken,
Here is the scientific evidence:
Where Did The Towers Go?
http://wheredidthetowersgo.com
http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/buy
I follow the schientific method and present scientific evidence, not theory, not speculation, not hypothesis, not opinion, not thesis....
If you are interested in food fights, name calling, diversions.... you apparently already know where to find that.
If you need more, there is an entire book written about it:
http://tinyurl.com/911ftb
I believe in freedom of choice. My choice is to discuss the evidence and to discuss the truth of what happened that day. That is why I wrote my book.
Sincerely,
Dr. Wood
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Judy,
What scientific evidence? Or do I have to buy your book to see it?
"My own research is not speculation. It is a forensics investigation of what happened to the WTC complex on 9/11/01. I don’t address who did it, nor am I concerned with that question right now. Before issues of that kind can be addressed, we must first determine what happened."
So you don;t address WHO did it? Then how can you understand HOW or WHAT happened if you don't know WHO did it?
Give me some names of who you think was involved.... and how?
I can give you 103 people that I KNOW are connected! While you won't even give us one name! Let me guess.... BUSH did it? LOL
As for speculation.......... thats all you do. You have speculated about the spire that did NOT turn to dust from video footage. You have speculated that cars were damaged a mile away but yet they were towed there (specifically cop car 2723)!
Judy, you work in a lab, WHERE ARE YOU DUST SAMPLES FROM 9/11?
You do know NIST found the Thermite right? But you are not interested in attacking NIST it seems but moreso Steven Jones et al.
Your gig is up Judy! Who pays you to spread this garbage?
Ken
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She never responded after my last Email. Her replies were also cc'd to Andrew Johnson (ad.johnson@ntlworld.com) but he didn;t bother replying either.
So there you have it, I approached Judy with this note and she totally ignored every point I brought up but continued to promote her book.
Judy Wood is a fraud and most likely a CIA agent paid to spread this garbage or just mentally ill! It's your choice what to believe!
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