The tregenza family
part of a letter from John Faull and Don Bousfield 11NOV1997
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- OTHER INFORMATION MYLOR FAMILY 1 (continued)
- NOTES ON MYLOR FAMILY 2 (THOMAS baptised 1791 see Mylor Family 1)
- NOTES ON MYLOR FAMILY 2 (continued)
- OTHER INFORMATION MYLOR FAMILY 2
| part of a letter from John Faull and Don Bousfield 11NOV1997
Lorraine Thistleton [3b Cleave Road Gillingham Kent ME7 4AY] confirming the tree plus giving some more dates and details John Seagrove, son of LILY (Mylor family 4) giving additional information about JOHN-LEAR plus family and EDWARD-ELLIS and particularly about the schooner (see below) plus a copy of the painting of it from the National Maritime Museum Greenwich. He is writing a book about JOHN-LEAR and the schooner (2013). Hattam family tree www.hattam.co.uk reading parish registers (including Truro Museum microfilm) - some records are missing - this may be because they are not Mylor or due to parents being non-conformist. Source of BETSY and ROBERT 1777 not known. copy of readings of records by Arthur Childs a cousin of Alice Morrell Cornwall Online Parish Clerks’ baptisms www.cornwall-opc-database.org Cornish will abstracts from http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com the marriage certificate of LUCY-ELIZABETH to George Hazell 1875 IGI and other records from www.familysearch.org including the record of AGNES-COLLINS Boyd’s Index of Marriages (some supplied by John Faull and Don Bousfield) Phillimore Marriages reading of Falmouth parish church registers a photograph of gravestone of ROBERT 1785 and ANN in Paul churchyard Kelly’s Directory 1883 “Notes on Mylor” p153 legal documents (leases etc.) from www.nationalarchives.org.uk notices in West Briton newspaper from http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com pre-registration records from www.freereg.org.uk continued OTHER INFORMATION MYLOR FAMILY 1 (continued) Created using information from: continued
1871 census Mylor district 4 schedule 025 via Kindred Konnections and Les Smith
OTHER INFORMATION MYLOR FAMILY 1 (continued) Lyn Nash lynnash@webaxs.net supplied the following census records: EDITH-A born 1856 probably 1881 census 16 Trevenson St Camborne
but note 1881 census Fore Street Lanteglos-by-Fowey
Albert employed 2 men and 3 boys (apprentices) LUCY-ELIZABETH born 1851 probably 1881 census 27 Lansdown Road Swindon Wiltshire
Foel might be Pool ? but note 1881 census Trelawne Forde Park Wolborough Devon
1851 census 1 Pumpfield Pool Illogan HO 107/1915 from reading of fiche
* badly written could be Sark, York or Earth (probably St Erth) OTHER INFORMATION MYLOR FAMILY 1 (continued) 1851 census 9 Trevenson Moor Illogan from reading of fiche
1841 census Mylor village Kerrier HO 107/138/10 folio 58 page 17 (ages to nearest 5 years) from www.freecen.org.uk
1891 census Fore Street Illogan RG12/1849 folio 10 page 13 schedule 98 from www.freecen.org.uk and www.findmypast.co.uk
1901 census Tolgus Hill Redruth RG13/2240 page 7 schedule 47 from www.1901censusonline.com
OTHER INFORMATION MYLOR FAMILY 1 (continued) 1841 census Woodlands Mylor HO107/138/10 district 3 folio 45 page 14 from www.freecen.org.uk (to the nearest five years)
1881 census 20 Grove, Idle West Riding of Yorkshire RG11/4478 Bradford district folio 50 page 13 from www.findmypast.co.uk
* Illogan OTHER INFORMATION MYLOR FAMILY 1 (continued) 1841 census Mylor Village HO107/138/10 district 4 folio 60 page 21 from www.freecen.org.uk (to the nearest five years)
1841 census Mylor Village HO107/138/10 district 4 folio 57 page 15 from www.freecen.org.uk (to the nearest five years)
OTHER INFORMATION MYLOR FAMILY 1 (continued) 1871 census Illogan district 11 schedule 77 from Kindred Konnections
1871 census Mylor district 4 schedule 25 from Kindred Konnections
1881 census Main or County Road Illogan RG11/2333 district 11 folio 25 page 13 schedule 78 from www.freecen.org.uk
OTHER INFORMATION MYLOR FAMILY 1 (continued) 1861 census Trevenson Girls National School House Illogan RG9/1582 district 12 folio 35 page 3 schedule 12 from www.freecen.org.uk
1861 census Church Town St Erth RG9/1588 district 10 folio 19 page 3 schedule 16 from www.freecen.org.uk
* National School 1861 census house behind Trevenson National School for Boys Illogan RG9/1582 district 12 folio 34 page 1 schedule 16 from www.freecen.org.uk
OTHER INFORMATION MYLOR FAMILY 1 (continued) Notes:
A quote from the Mylor Parish Clerk in October 1873 found in ‘The History of the Parish of Milor’ 1873 by Olivey page 113 [there were three sextons JOHN 1756, JOHN 1787 and JOHN-BEELS 1819 the grandmother must have been ANN née Shole]
Notes (continued):
Royal Cornwall Gazette Saturday 13h November 1869 page 5 column 1
1791
m Isabella Hitchens | __________________|_____________________________________________________________________________________________ MARY-ANN THOMAS ELIZABETH AMELIA EDWARD-ELLIS ISABELLA JOHN HARRIET 1815 1817 1819 1821 1824 1827 1830 1836 m Mary-Anna Bennett m Eliza Vivian m Mary-Jane Champion | | |
| | AUSTRALIAN FAMILY 1 | |
| ____________________________________|_________________________________________________________ | JOHN LUCY-VIVIAN KATE HARRIET ANNIE ELIZABETH CHARLES | -ELLIS 1857 1858 1861 1863 1864 1866 | 1856
__________________|______________________________________________________________________________________________________ ELIZABETH MARY WILLIAM AMELIA HARRIET CHARLES SARAH ISABELLA JOHN LAURA -JANE -ANN -THOMAS 1849 -ANNA -HENRY BENNETT -ELLIS -HENRY 1862 1843 1844 1847 1853 -BENNETT 1857 1857 -BENNETT m Alice-Ada Springer 1854 1859 | | m Annie Tregenza ________________________|______________________ | THOMAS-WILLIAM MARY-ANNA-BENNETT MYLOR FAMILY 4 1893 1894 m Lilian-Ruby Julian |___________ JOHN-HUGH 1928
MARY-ANN baptised 16APR1815 Mylor (Truro Museum microfilm) 25MAR1815 (19th century Oates family documents), married 10DEC1836 to Nicholas Oates (born 17NOV1812 died 19DEC1897) of St Erme, died 30OCT1837 just after giving birth, daughter survived and was called Mary- Ann Tregenza Oates born 15OCT1837 baptised 08NOV1837 Methodist Chapel (at 1841 census age 3 living with her grandparents THOMAS and ISABELLA Tregenza, at 1851 census living in Saint Mawes with her father [who had married again in 19OCT1840 to Mary-Renfree born 10SEP1816] and his other children, married Charles-Vincent Hosking in Falmouth in 1860 [vol. 5c page 304] and her name at marriage was Mary- Ann Tregenza Oates). THOMAS baptised 12APR1817 Mylor (Truro Museum microfilm), at 1841 census ag .lab. living with parents Mylor village age 20 (to nearest five years), married 05FEB1842 Parish Church St Gluvias EDWARD witness (see certificate), farmer resident at ?Comfort? Mylor at birth of MARY-ANN 1844, part of Allen’s Tregew Mylor (31 acres 2 roods 18 poles) to be let by tender on expiration of leases to THOMAS Tregenza and John Bray (Royal Cornwall Gazette 08OCT1852 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ), won court case as grocer of Mylor against Johns for unpaid bill £14- 8s-10d at Falmouth County Court 16MAR1858 (Royal Cornwall Gazette 19MAR1858 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ), at 1861 census age 44 born Mylor farmer of 28 acres employing a boy, 99 year lease of 1865 (THOMAS son of THOMAS Tregenza of Mylor) rent 2 shillings Sir Charles Lemon of Carclew to Nicholas Johns of Mylor nurseryman and Richard Hoskin of Penryn merchant Methodist chapel on piece of land 48 feet by 35 feet, won court case as grocer of Mylor against John Tregoning for unpaid bills at Falmouth County Court 09JUL1870 (West Briton 14JUL1870 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ), at 1871 census age 52 farmer of 30 acres, farmer of Rose Hill farm, 1874 has leasehold with THOMAS junior for Kemp and others (electoral roll no. 4125 and 4126), at 1881 census born St Gluvias age 63 farmer of 76 acres married Rose Hill Farm Mylor [film 1341555 PRO ref RG11 piece 2315 folio 34 page 7], farmer and grocer at Mylor Bridge 1883 (Kelly’s Directory), farmer at Mylor Bridge 1889 (Kelly’s Directory), died 02SEP1890 farmer Mylor, will and codicil (Bodmin) dated 04JUL1891 to sons WILLIAM-THOMAS farmer Mylor and JOHN-BENNET farmer Mylor, deceased farmer at marriage of WILLIAM-THOMAS 1892, 1893 document reference WH/1/717 agreement with Robert Henry Bennett concerning leasehold by daughters HARRIET, SARAH-BENNETT, ISABELLA-ELLIS and LAURA see www.nationalarchives.gov.uk, 1885 document reference WH/1/708 a 99 year lease rent £1-7-0 Arthur Tremayne of Carclew to Thomas Tregenza consideration £80 lessee’s daughters HARRIET and ISABELLA see www.nationalarchives.gov.uk, an assignment of leasehold THOS. sen. of Mylor Bridge farmer to Jn. May of Mylor Bridge shoemaker consideration £20 letter concerning rent see www.nationalarchives.gov.uk x MARY-ANNA born 1822 St Gluvias, at 1861 census age 38 born St Gluvias, at 1871 census age 46, at 1881 census age 57 farmer’s wife married to THOMAS Rose Hill Farm Mylor [film 1341555 PRO ref RG11 piece 2315 folio 34 page 7], at 1891 census head of household widow farmer employer age 68 born St Gluvias living Rose Hill farm Mylor, 1899 document reference WH/1/718/1,2 99 year lease with Arthur Tremayne of Carclew and Robert Henry Bennett of Budock to MARY-ANN widow of Mylor and daughter ISABELLA-ELLIS Tregenza of ground at Mylor Bridge bounded on east with poors’ house premises rent £2 and 8 pence see www.nationalarchives.gov.uk , died 12JAN1900 Mylor Bridge wife of late THOMAS (18JAN1900 Royal Cornwall Gazette www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ) NOTES ON MYLOR FAMILY 2 (continued) ELIZABETH baptised 01JUN1819 Mylor AMELIA baptised 02SEP1821 Mylor (Truro Museum microfilm), at 1841 census dressmaker living with parents Mylor village age 20 (to nearest five years), at 1851 census unmarried dressmaker age 29 born Mylor, at 1861 census unmarried dressmaker age 39 born Mylor, at 1871 census dressmaker age 49 at home, at 1881 census unmarried head of family age 60 with niece and nephew in law living Mylor Bridge [film 1341555 PRO ref RG11 piece 2315 folio 40 page 3] at 1891 census single age 69 born Mylor living with sister HARRIET Jenkin and family Bells Hill Mylor, at 1901 census single age 79 born Mylor living with sister HARRIET Jenkin and family Bells Hill Mylor, probably AMELIA died age 82 (03MAR1904 Cornsihman www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk) EDWARD-ELLIS born 31OCT1824 Mylor, baptised 18NOV1824 Methodist Church Mylor Bridge, at 1841 census carpenter apprentice living with parents Mylor village age 15 (to nearest five years), at 1851 census unmarried age 26 schoolmaster at Redruth Union Workhouse, married March quarter 1853 Redruth district, schoolmaster at birth of JOHN-ELLIS 1856, in 1858 Edw. E. Tregenza Camborne British School won a teachers’ prize for colours/geometry/perspective/model at Penzance School of Art (Royal Cornwall Gazette 14MAY1858 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ), 1871 census Camborne district 2 schedule 013 schoolmaster age 46, on 1874 electoral roll an owner occupier at New Road Camborne, died 06MAY1880 Camborne schoolmaster, will dated 17JUN1880 (Bodmin) to JOHN-LEAR shipowner Pool x ELIZA born 06MAR1822 Paul, age 49 at 1871 census, at 1881 census widow age 59 born Paul living 5 or 6 Sea View Terrace Camborne, Coll. Corn. notes Vivian Eliza born 06MAR1822 married EDWARD master of a private school at Camborne and that they had children ISABELLA born 24FEB1827, baptised 11MAR1827 Mylor Bridge Methodist, at 1841 census living with parents Mylor village age 14, mentioned in a 99 year lease between Sir Charles Lemon of Carclew and her father (see his entry), probably = ISABELLA married December quarter 1849 Falmouth district, probably = ISABELLA died 18AUG1901 Mylor NOTES ON MYLOR FAMILY 2 (continued) JOHN born 25DEC1830, baptised 18JAN1831 Mylor Methodist, at 1841 census living with parents Mylor village age 10 (to nearest five years), at 1851 census unmarried employed at home age 20 born Mylor, after a boating accident (see Coroner’s Inquest 05AUG1850 reported in Royal Cornwall Gazette 09AUG1850 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ) when a friend died and he had a lucky escape he joined the Wesleyan church and dedicated his life to Jesus, when engaged to Mary Champion her mother said the Champion family was going to Australia and if he wanted to marry Mary he would have to come as well, married 06JUL1854 St Gluvias, went to Australia 1854, on arrival he present his ‘note of removal’ to Reverend Mr Draper and became associated with the church in Gawler Place, he was appointed to open and run the first country school Gawler River, a local preacher in the Gawler circuit, moved to Bowden and worked for his father –in-law and was involved in the Sunday school, later moved to Port Gawler became in charge of the day school, as there were no Wesleyans there he became active in the church, also active in Tod Street Wesleyan Church (where ?), also schoolmaster Woodville at some time, he was caught in a storm on his way to Gawler Town to hear Rev. Mr Taylor preach, he caught a cold that developed into tuberculosis, he returned to Bowden to die among family, died Saturday 04AUG1866 at Bowden x MARY-JANE born 1832, family and husband went to South Australia by ship Magdalena from Plymouth (Falmouth ?) arrived Port Adelaide 14JAN1855, family were ship's chandlers, ran a general store after husband’s death, died 01MAR1910 after ailing for sometime from an internal complaint (Cairns Post 05FEB1910 page 4) HARRIET born 10MAY1836, baptised 18SEP1836 Mylor Bridge Methodist, at 1841 census living with parents Mylor village age 5, at 1851 census age 15 born Mylor, at 1861 census unmarried shop girl in grocer’s age 24 born Mylor, married Joseph Jenkin possibly = HARRIET married March quarter 1863 Falmouth, at 1891 census wife age 54 of Joseph Jenkin Shipwright Royal Navy (employee) living Bells hill Mylor with son Arthur (fitter) and sister AMELIA age 69 as boarder, her and husband living Mylor in1919 JOHN-ELLIS born 08DEC1856 New Road Camborne (see certificate) LUCY-VIVIAN born 1857 Camborne, named after mother - maiden name VIVIAN, spinster of Camborne, at 1871 census age 15, at 1881 census governess (P) living at 5 Sea View Terrace Camborne, at 1891 census teacher at the board school single age 35 living with brother CHARLES and sister ELIZABETH at Bassett Road Camborne, at 1901 census housekeeper age 45 16 Basset Road Camborne living with sister ELIZABETH, 1902 Kelly’s directory Misses Tregenza resident Bassett Road Camborne, 1906 Kelly’s directory Miss Tregenza resident Bassett Road Camborne, at 1911 census head of household single house keeper of boarding house with eight rooms at Basset Road Camborne age 54 born Camborne Cornwall, 1919 Kelly’s directory Miss Tregenza resident Bassett Road Camborne, died 18APR1925 spinster of 10 Bassett Street Camborne, will dated 30MAY1925 (London) NOTES ON MYLOR FAMILY 2 (continued) KATE born 1858 approx. Camborne, at 1861 census daughter age 3 living at home HARRIET born 1862 Camborne, at 1871 census scholar age 11, may = Harriet Ball age 20 born Tuckingmill living in Davey's Row Illogan at 1881 census (FHL film 1341560 PRO ref. RG11 piece 2332 folio 75 page 3) wife to George M Ball pattern maker in iron foundry (E&M) age 25 (born St Blazey), see other HARRIET ANNIE born 1863 Camborne, at 1871 census scholar age 9, at 1881 census drapers assistant age 19 living at 5 Sea View Terrace Camborne ELIZABETH born 1864 Camborne, at 1871 census scholar age 8, at 1881 census pupil teacher age 18 living at 5 Sea View Terrace Camborne, at 1891 census draper’s clerk age 28 living with brother CHARLES and sister LUCY-V. at Bassett Road Camborne, at 1901 census single draper’s clerk age 38 living with sister LUCY-V. CHARLES born 1866 Camborne, at 1871 census scholar age 6, at 1881 census teacher (scho) living at 5 Sea View Terrace Camborne, at 1891 census head of household with sisters LIZZIE and LUCY-V. at Basset Road Camborne single age 26 out of work due to bad health
MARY-ANN born 16OCT1844 Mylor (see certificate), baptised 27MAR1853 Mylor (Truro Museum microfilm), at 1851 census scholar age 6 born Mylor living with grandparents THOMAS and ISABELLA, at 1861 census unmarried dairymaid age 15 born Mylor, at 1871 census unmarried daughter age 25 grocer at home, married John Dunn (ships carpenter from Isle of Wight, born approx. 1844) by 1881, at 1881 census grocer age 33 living with husband in AMELIA’s (unmarried aunt) house Mylor Bridge NOTES ON MYLOR FAMILY 2 (continued) WILLIAM-THOMAS born 1847 Mylor, , in 1848 a 99 year lease to WILLIAM and THOMAS rent 5 shillings Sir Charles Lemon of Carclew to John Symons of Mylor yeoman piece of ground bounded on north with Tregenza’s house on east with high road and on west with John Rowe’s - document reference WH/1/644 see www.nationalarchives.gov.uk possibly his father THOMAS including him in the lease for succession, baptised 27MAR1853 Mylor (Truro Museum microfilm) of Tregoweth Farm Mylor, at 1861 census unmarried age 13 helping on farm born Mylor, at 1871 census unmarried age 23 at home, at 1881 census born Mylor age 31 farmer’s son Rose Hill Farm Mylor [film 1341555 PRO ref RG11 piece 2315 folio 34 page 7], at 1891 census single age 40 farmer’s son employer born Mylor living with mother at Rose Hill farm Mylor, married 07JAN1892 St Johns Church Stratford West Ham bachelor age 38 farmer of Mylor, farmer at birth of MARY-ANNA-BENNETT 1894, probably W. Tregenza helping with Widows’ and Orphans’ fund from Mylor Carol Service (11JAN1900 Royal Cornwall Gazette www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ), farmer W. Rose Hill Mylor Bridge 1902 (Kelly’s directory), at 1911 census head of household married farmer age 62 born Mylor Bridge living Tregoweth Farm Mylor Cornwall x ALICE-ADA born 1867 approx., spinster age 25 of Caernarvon Road Stratford at marriage, at 1911 census wife age 44 born Kensington Place London AMELIA born 1849, baptised 27MAR1853 Mylor (Truro Museum microfilm),, at 1861 census scholar age 12 born Mylor, married Robert Lee, probably = AMELIA married March quarter 1871 Falmouth district, her son Bennett Lee staying with her sister HARRIET-ANN at 1911 census HARRIET-ANN born approximately 1850, baptised 27MAR1853 Mylor (Truro Museum microfilm), at 1861 census scholar age 10 born Mylor, at 1871 census unmarried age 19 at home, at 1881 census born Mylor age 28 farmer’s daughter unmarried Rose Hill Farm Mylor [film 1341555 PRO ref RG11 piece 2315 folio 34 page 7], at 1891 census single age 37 domestic cook born Mylor living Rose Hill farmer Mylor, at 1911 census head of household single employed and ‘of private means’ age 60 born Mylor Cornwall living New Row Mylor Bridge with nephew Bennett Lee son of her sister AMELIA, died 26SEP1914 New Row Mylor Bridge, will (London) dated 12OCT1915, see other HARRIET CHARLES-HENRY-BENNETT baptised 1854 (01NOV1857 Mylor in IGI and Truro Museum microfilm), died when young.
ISABELLA-ELLIS baptised 01NOV1857 Mylor (Truro Museum microfilm), at 1861 census scholar age 5, at 1871 census scholar age 14, at 1881 census born Mylor age 24 farmer’s daughter unmarried Rose Hill Farm Mylor [film 1341555 PRO ref RG11 piece 2315 folio 34 page 7], 1891 census single age 33 housemaid born Mylor Rose Hill farm Mylor. probably not married, died 18AUG1901 age 45 Mylor, see other ISABELLA JOHN-HENRY-BENNETT born June quarter 1859 Falmouth district volume 52 page 221, baptised 04NOV1860 Mylor (Truro Museum microfilm), at 1861 census age 2 born Mylor, at 1871 census scholar age 11, at 1881 census age 22 born Mylor farmer’s son unmarried Rose Hill Farm Mylor [film 1341555 PRO ref RG11 piece 2315 folio 34 page 7], married 04JAN1888 Paul farmer of Mylor age 28 witness JOHN-R Tregenza and CHARLES Tregenza [see Newlyn Family 1], "John Tregenza of Carvinack Mylor ??? Miss Annie ??? Mousehole celebrated their we?? on Saturday" [04JAN1913] (09JAN1913 Cornishman www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk )), at 1891 census farmer (notem) age 32 Mylor Bridge, at 1911 census head of household married farmer age 52 born Mylor living Carvinick [Carvinack] Mylor, died 24OCT1944 Mylor, will (Llandudno) dated 13FEB1945 to HERBERT-CHARLES x ANNIE Tregenza of Newlyn family 1, second cousin to husband (her grandfather ROBERT younger brother of his grandfather THOMAS 1791), story that they visited their mutual cousins (children of EDWARD-ELLIS) in Camborne as an excuse to meet each other, at 1891 census wife age 32 born Mousehole has two children (see Mylor 4), at 1911 census wife age 52 born Paul Cornwall has six children (see Mylor 4) LAURA born September quarter 1862 Mylor, scholar age 8 at 1871 census, at 1881 census born Mylor age 18 farmer’s daughter unmarried Rose Hill Farm Mylor [film 1341555 PRO ref RG11 piece 2315 folio 34 page 7], at 1891 census age 25 born Mylor dairymaid singe living Rose Hill farm Mylor, married Thomas Hingston 15JUL1900 at Mylor (12JUL Cornishman & 26JUL1900 Royal Cornwall Gazette www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk )
x LILIAN-RUBY died 11APR1973 Tregoweth Mylor, administration (Bristol) dated 14JUN1973 MARY-ANNA-BENNETT born 26MAR1894 Rose Hill Mylor, at 1911 census single farmer’s daughter dairy work age 17 born Mylor Bridge, married Harry Hutchens June quarter 1918 Falmouth district JOHN-HUGH born March quarter 1928 possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced. OTHER INFORMATION MYLOR FAMILY 2 Constructed from information from:
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